Leaving Calvinism By God’s Decree (Memevangelsit)

[BTW, I love this post because it show just how “off” Calvinism is, and how it undermines any Biblical commands and categories.]

Here is the original (to the left) with an edit by whom I assume are Calvinistic in their leaning (to the right). I say this because they are saying that Satan is driving out solid Biblical teaching via that Calvinist teachers:

Which got me thinking. The person did not realize it, but they undercut their own argument.

How?

This is how [I created a larger cartoon – click to enlarge]:

Satan’s ultimate ambition is to usurp God’s position (Isaiah 14:13-15, 2 Thes. 2:3,4).

Right?

However, John Calvin notes:

  • “[W]e infer that God was the author of that trial of which Satan and wicked robbers were merely the instruments.”
  • “Therefore, whatever men or Satan himself devise, God holds the helm, and makes all their efforts contribute to the execution of His judgments”
  • “That men do nothing save at the secret instigation of God, and do not discuss and deliberate on anything but what He has previously decreed with Himself, and brings to pass by His secret direction, is proved by numberless clear passages of Scripture”
  • “That men do nothing save at the secret instigation of God, and do not discuss and deliberate on anything but what He has previously decreed with Himself, and brings to pass by His secret direction, is proved by numberless clear passages of Scripture”
  • “not that He intends to teach wicked and obstinate man to obey spontaneously, but because He bends them to execute His judgments, just as if they carried their orders engraven on their minds. And hence it appears that they are impelled by the sure appointment of God.”

Etc, etc. (Institutes 1.18.1. and 1.18.2.).


  • … how foolish and frail is the support of divine justice afforded by the suggestion that evils come to be, not by His will but by His permission. . . . It is a quite frivolous refuge to say that God otiosely permits them, when Scripture shows Him not only willing, but the author of them. . . . Who does not tremble at these judgments with which God works in the hearts of even the wicked whatever He will, rewarding them nonetheless according to desert? Again it is quite clear from the evidence of Scripture that God works in the hearts of men to incline their wills just as he will, whether to good for His mercy’s sake, or to evil according to their merits.

— John Calvin, “The Eternal Predestination of God,” 10:11

  • …it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that he himself brings about these evil aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4). This includes—as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem—God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child…

— John Piper and Justin Taylor, eds., Suffering and the Sovereignty of God

  •  “Therefore, whatever men or Satan himself devise,” argues Calvin, “God holds the helm, and makes all their efforts contribute to the execution of his judgments.” (Calvin, 1.18.1.)

Satan is said to blind the minds of those who believe not (2 Cor. 4:4). So, you note that the “blinding by Satan” is by spitting out the ingested Calvinist acolytes. However, Satan is ultimately irrelevant since the elect still get saved and the non-elect still go to the lake of fire for eternity. The Devil is God’s Devil (to summarize Martin Luther) and never operates outside the Lord’s decree (Sproul). The Devil is God’s servant (Piper, MacArthur).

So, the change in the cartoon is really a defeater. It undercuts any point trying to be made.

In other words, you are saying God put Calvinism into the person. And God took Calvinism out of the person.

To circle back: God would be usurping Himself.

Too Depraved To Respond To The Gospel?

As far as the Scripture is concerned, it is very clear that faith and believing come first and the new birth follows. The Scripture is replete, lucid, and compelling in teaching that the order is faith prior to regeneration, and faith is a gift that God endowed man with in creation not in selective regeneration; moreover, God is working in order to give men and women a real chance to trust Him unto salvation (John 16:8). Salvation is offered as a free gift (Romans 6:23) to all who are in need of forgiveness (Romans 5:15, 18), and people are summoned to act upon the offer by accepting the gift by—grace-enabled—faith (John 1:12). “Never does the Bible say, ‘Be saved in order to believe; instead, repeatedly, it commands, ‘Believe in order to be saved.’” (GEISLER)

If God has decided in eternity past which individuals he will not save, then those individuals cannot be thought of either as being truly loved by God or as being the objects of his saving intentions. Calvinists protest that it is simply a mystery as to how God loves people he wills to condemn before they are ever born. Some assert that God has two wills, one “hidden” and one “revealed,”108 or two kinds of love,109 but most Southern Baptists view these answers as having neither a biblical nor logical basis. Moreover, Calvinists’ affirmation of “single predestination” over against “double predestination” as a method for absolving God of the charge of actively causing the lost to spend eternity in hell is unconvincing. To say that God merely passes over the lost rather than actively causing their perdition is both a distinction without a difference110 and a flat refusal to own the implications of the Calvinist system.111

108. Piper, “Two Wills,” 107–24; Grudem, Systematic Theology, 683–84.

109. MacArthur, “Does God love,” par. 4–5.

110. If I have the ability and opportunity to rescue someone who is drowning, then I have an obligation to render aid. If I simply stand aside and let them die, then I am morally culpable. Calvinist objections that the sinner is already dead will not suffice. If I have the ability and opportunity to regenerate a spiritually dead person but do not, then my culpability is the same.

111. Keathley, Salvation and Sovereignty, 148–49.

This statement by MacArthur is “anti-Gospel.”

It negates the power of the Word.

In the end this is what MacArthur is saying if you take into account his Calvinism:

  • God by means of divine decree determines all peoples decisions/actions
  • Potter by means of molding determines all pots decisions,actions,shapes, etc…
  • Programmer by means of preprogramming determines the Avatars/Robots decisions and actions
  • Puppeteer by means of strings determines all the puppets movements, actions, decisions
  • Author by means of writing a story determines all characters decisions, actions

This life in Calvinism has everything completely and fully scripted with every thought, action, deed. Welcome to the world of the avatar. The world of make belief – sounds much like the world of Walt Disney.

(Berean Apologetics)

The “gospel” according to Calvinists is akin to a “cosmic lottery” then.

In a post detailing misreading’s of Scripture, I end with this:

TO SUMMARIZE:

  • If the “T” is correct, there is no rebellion against God’s will. Add the “U” and the “I,” the Gospel is rendered meaningless. It is sad, but it is a logical outgrowth of those. The Word of God, the Gospel message sent to a dying and sick world is secondary, Calvary becomes moot. Your hope can only be in if you won the cosmic lottery.

So when the unbeliever stands before God and Romans 1:19-20 is in the thought of our Holy God, when the words come out of said unbelievers mouth,

“I could not believe in your salvific offer because of my nature which you ensured. I suspect you won’t torture a cow [cows are biologically designed to eat grass] for eternity because your command was to eat meat, but ensured their nature was vegetarian.

What should God’s response be?

Are We PRE-PROGRAMMED To Reject The Gospel?
Dr. Leighton Flowers | John MacArthur | Calvinism

Dr. Leighton Flowers, Director of Evangelism and Apologetics for Texas Baptists, responds to John MacArthur on whether we are pre-programmed to reject the Gospel or not. Check out the full video here:    

Not only does this “pre-programming” dilute Scripture and it’s clear teaching, but it dilutes truth as well!

  • Preprogrammed definition: (of instructions or data) programmed into an electronic device to control future action. “the drones are designed to follow a preprogrammed route at the push of a button” (Berean Apologetics)

(Adapted from another comment) This is why Christians need to put on the whole armor of God to protect us against becoming infected By malware. We need to put on the Girdle of Truth! May we stand firm in the truth of Your Word so we will not be a victim of Satan’s lies.

RONNIE ROGERS completes the idea simply with the two views compared:

Compatibilism
Determinism and moral responsibility are compatible; hence, the name. This compatibility is not achieved by compatibilism being less deterministic than hard determinism. Rather, it is achieved by defining free choice to mean as long as a person chooses according to his greatest desire, he can be considered to have made a free choice for which he is morally responsible; even though given the same past, he cannot choose differently in the moral moment of decision.

Consequently, the difference between compatibilism (soft determinism) and hard determinism is not to be found in the levels of the deterministic nature of each because they are the same. Rather, the difference is compatibilism contends people are morally responsible for their choices if they are made according to their greatest desire, and hard determinism says they are not.

Therefore, moral responsibility is the product of defining free choice as a person acting in accordance with his greatest desire even though the desire is determined. I frequently find Calvinists who affirm soft determinism and disavow hard determinism because they think soft determinism is not as unflinchingly deterministic as hard determinism. That kind of thinking is based upon a misunderstanding of compatibilism.

Libertarianism
Man is not determined. He has the actual ability to choose between accessible options, at least in some scenarios. Libertarians contend determinism is not compatible with moral responsibility. Man possesses actual otherwise choice and can, therefore, act or refrain in the moral moment of decision even with the same past within a given range of options. Extensivism contends God endowed man with this ability, which is an aspect of being created in the image of God. [2] God determines the range of options. Adam’s range of options before the fall was greater than humanity’s options after the fall. The range of options available before the fall was the result of creative grace.

Fallen man can still choose between options. He did not lose his libertarian moral freedom, but the range of options is less than man had before the fall. Since the fall, man has lost the ability to make choices that are inherently righteous or spiritually restorative (making one right with God) based solely on creative grace. To make an inherently righteous or spiritually restorative choice, God had to provision redemptive grace, grace enablements.

For compatibilism to be the biblically reflective approach to understanding Scripture (what the Bible actually portrays and teaches), Calvinists would have to explain why the Bible, from Genesis 2 through Revelation 22, is absolutely permeated with verses, events, challenges, commands, offers, and judgments that clearly reflect that people have libertarian free will. That is to say; they can choose to act one way or differently in a myriad of passages (Gen 2:17-3:24; Josh 24; Jer 32; Mark 10:17-31; Rev 22:17-21).

Libertarian freedom allows for both determined events (events uninfluenced by human choice) and undetermined events (events influenced or caused by human choice) in which people choose between options. And whatever they did choose, they could have chosen differently even with the same past.

Compatibilism, Calvinism, requires that everything is determined, and if there is even one verse (I believe there are hundreds if not thousands that do so) that demonstrates the person had the freedom to choose differently than he chose, in the moral moment of decision, Calvinism and compatibilism collapse into an unbiblical perspective.

Consequently, unless a person can demonstrate the Bible teaches only micro-determinism (every verse that speaks of choosing reflects only a predetermined choosing wherein the appearance of having the freedom to choose differently is an illusion), he should totally and quickly disavow Calvinism. If a person chooses to remain a Calvinist, he is integrity bound to speak consistently with the micro-determinism of his position. In my book, Does God Love All or Some? I demonstrate that Calvinism’s view of moral freedom is absolutely in conflict with the teaching of Scripture when we consider all the Scripture.

What makes the micro-determinism in Calvinism, compatibilism, so difficult to detect is that Calvinists often interpret, talk, and teach the Scripture libertarianly. Meaning, they do so as though there is an undetermined choice involved, i.e., man can choose among the options available in the passage, and whatever he does choose, he could have chosen differently. Now, while that is true to the Scripture, it is in absolute contradiction to compatibilism, Calvinism.

Therefore, if a Calvinist is not going to live, speak, teach, interpret Scripture, and pray in a way that is consistent with micro-determinism so that both the Calvinist and the one whom he engages understands his deterministic perspective, he should disavow Calvinism.

(Emphasis added)

And that is the bottom line. If you adopt the Calvinist “TULIP,” you jettison truth. Truth in Scripture, truth in God, truth in reality, and truth in reason.

I believe I do understand Calvinism very well and that is why I argue that it cannot be put into the service of evangelism because there is no “good news” in the Calvinist soteriological doctrines. As such, Calvinism is not “evangelical,” which means “to bring good news.” When Calvinist’s do evangelism that have to abandon their soteriology and preach a non-Calvinist version of the gospel which is truly “good news,” but inconsistent with their Calvinist “doctrines of grace.” I argue against Calvinism because ultimately the truth of the gospel is at stake. (Source)

Calvary becomes moot.

The Gospel becomes moot.

A humorous look into the above via HOPPERS CROSSING:

A man has just entered heaven and is being given a guided tour by St. Peter. As they walk past a certain group of people, Peter tells him to be extra-quiet and not to disturb them. The man asks why and Peter replies, “They’re the Calvinists. They think they are the only ones here!”

A Calvinist is about to enter heaven. There are two lines, one labelled “Chosen” and the other “Free will”. He decides that the “Chosen” line is the one for him and lines up. When his turn comes, he is asked why he joined that line. He replies that he chose to join it.

“No!” he is told. “This is only for those who do not choose. You have to go to the other line. It’s the one for those who choose.”

So he lines up at the “Free will” line. When he gets to the official at the head of the line, he is asked, “Why did you join this line?”

He replies, “Because I was told to join it.”

“Then,” replies the official, “You’re in the wrong line. This is only for those who choose to join it.”

Islam and Violence | Michael Jones

In this session from NAPC 2026, Michael Jones takes a deep dive into the question: what does the data actually say about the link between Islamic doctrine and violence?

Michael shares some eye-opening research on how things like the concept of jihad and the fusion of religion and state impact everything from global conflict to domestic stability. He compares these findings with other faiths, offering a data-driven look at how certain teachings have shaped history and continue to influence our world today, breaking it down with clear evidence and academic rigor. If you’re interested in the intersection of faith, history, and sociology, you won’t want to miss this one.

With these graphs, when you click it it will enlarge. When you right click that opened the enlargement, choose “open image in new tab” for it to enlarge even more… your mouse turns into a plus symbol.

 

 

 

 

 

If God Determines Every Belief, Why Trust Yours?

  • If nihilism says “brain chemistry determines true and false beliefs,” and exhaustive divine determinism says “God determines true and false beliefs,” then what ultimately grounds confidence that my current belief is true rather than merely determined?

The same kind of self-defeating epistemic concerns raised against naturalistic nihilism can be raised against exhaustive divine determinism, especially concerning rational agency, deliberation, responsibility, and confidence in theological conclusions.

Calvinism doesn’t equal Nihilism, but it mirrors it in many ways.

Here is some conversation with GROK, going from a challenge to my position to getting more information on the issue and seeing the light. I am including the moment it hit me. Here is the audio question/conversation I had with GROK:

RPT

  • I just thought of a concept. I was doing a study of Calvinism a year ago and I came across an article by Albert Mohler talking about how atheists are determinists. They don’t believe in truth. Because everything is chemically charged in our brain to produce a certain viewpoint. So there is no real truth. And that’s what atheistic naturalistic determinism leads to. So within the studies of Calvinism, there’s a form of theistic determinism. Where everything is determined beforehand by God. And so no matter our choices, it doesn’t lend to actually finding truth. It’s whatever God determines us to believe. So I just heard an interview where a guy became a Christian again after losing faith and becoming a nihilist. And his view of nihilism is that there is no ultimate truth. So is it possible to call Calvinists Christian nihilists? That’s my question.

Grok Responds

No, calling Calvinists “Christian nihilists” doesn’t really hold up. Nihilism says there’s no ultimate truth or meaning at all—everything’s pointless. Calvinism says there is ultimate truth: God’s sovereign will and his revealed word in scripture. They just believe God determines who accepts that truth.

The parallel you’re drawing from Mohler’s critique of atheist determinism is fair as a gotcha—both systems make beliefs the product of forces outside our control, so why trust your brain chemicals or God’s decree more than the other? Critics of Calvinism love pointing that out. But Calvinists dodge it by saying God, being good and all-powerful, ensures the elect believe actual truth, not illusion. It’s circular, sure, but that’s their answer.

The guy who came back from nihilism to Christianity probably found real meaning and truth in the gospel, which Calvinists would say God sovereignly gave him. So they’re on opposite ends there—nihilism is the void, Calvinism claims God’s got the whole map. Interesting thought experiment though.

After some short talk and requests for Grok to go through the transcripts from these videos as well as an article and book.

  • Is Divine Determinism A Different Gospel? (VIDEO)
  • Arguments From Reason Show that Divine Determinists Have Worse Problems than Naturalists | EPS 2023 (VIDEO)
  • An Explanation and Defense of the Free-Thinking Argument (JOURNAL ARTICLE)

Here is Grok after the above:

GROK

Core of Their Case (Deity of Deception Argument)

From the transcripts:

  1. Everyone (including Christians) holds some false theological beliefs. This is uncontroversial—no one claims infallibility.
  2. If EDD is true, God determines all of them. Every false belief a Christian holds (about God, salvation, etc.) is ultimately caused/decreed by God.
  3. Therefore, God determines His followers to affirm falsehoods about ultimate reality. This makes Him a “Deity of Deception” (even if for “morally sufficient reasons”). His word/Scripture becomes untrustworthy because the same source inspires truth and plants error.

This leads to epistemic meltdown: You can’t rationally trust any theological belief, including the ones supporting EDD itself (a self-undermining loop, like an adapted Lewis Argument from Reason). It’s not just “we’re wrong sometimes”—it’s that there’s no reliable mechanism for sorting truth from the divinely determined falsehoods.

They contrast this with naturalism: Blind chemistry/evolution also undercuts reason (Darwin’s doubt, Plantinga’s EAAN), but at least it doesn’t involve a personal, truthful God actively determining deception. Divine determinism makes the problems worse because it attributes the unreliability to a supposedly omnibenevolent, truthful God.

Ties to Your “Christian Nihilist” Idea

  • Nihilism: No ultimate truth/meaning; nothing grounds reliable knowledge.
  • Atheist naturalism (per Mohler): Determinism via brain chemistry → beliefs are just caused, not truth-tracking → no real truth.
  • Calvinist EDD: Determinism via God’s decree → same problem, but the cause is God → undermines the gospel’s reliability, God’s trustworthiness, and any claim to “know” Calvinism is true.

Your label captures the functional similarity: Both leave you without independent grounds for confidence in truth. The ex-nihilist in the interview likely escaped by finding grounding in a non-deterministic gospel—free response, genuine relationship, trustworthy revelation—which these Molinist-leaning critics say EDD erodes. Calvinists aren’t nihilists (they affirm God’s truth and meaning), but the view risks collapsing into a practical skepticism about accessing that truth.

Calvinist Counters (and Why Critics Say They Fail)

Calvinists typically respond:

  • God ensures the elect believe saving truth; errors are compatible with His sovereignty.
  • “Moral sufficient reasons” for decreeing error (e.g., displaying justice, greater goods).
  • Compatibilist freedom: We’re “free” enough in the determined sense.
  • Scripture teaches determinism (e.g., Eph 1, Rom 9).

Stratton et al. push back hard:

  • This still makes God the source of deception for all Christians’ false beliefs.
  • Double effect/morally sufficient reasons don’t work when God could just determine the good without the error (no need for “greater goods” via determined sin/falsehood).
  • It downgrades views of God (love, truth), man (passive cogs, not agents), sin (no real “missing the mark”), and the gospel (bad news for the non-elect; different from the “good news” of free grace).

They conclude EDD isn’t outright heresy (it gets core orthodoxy like Trinity right, unlike Mormonism), but it’s a flawed, sub-biblical view of God that distorts the gospel enough to warrant strong critique—hence the “different gospel?” title.

Bottom Line for Your Study

This isn’t a gotcha that disproves Calvinism overnight—philosophical theology has deep debates here (Molinism vs. Calvinism, libertarian vs. compatibilist freedom, etc.). But the parallel you spotted is legitimate and echoed by these philosophers. EDD risks turning God into the ultimate determiner of illusion, mirroring the nihilistic/atheistic dead-end Mohler critiques. Provisionist or Molinist frameworks (emphasizing genuine free will/responsibility) avoid this by letting humans be active agents who can be held responsible for error without God authoring it. …

I then asked,

  • Here is a transcript to detour you on the “‘Moral sufficient reasons’ for decreeing error (e.g., displaying justice, greater goods).”

An provided two more resources:

  • A Rational Refutation of Divine Determinism (VIDEO)
  • Human Freedom, Divine Knowledge, and Mere Molinism, Second Edition: A Biblical, Historical, Theological, and Philosophical Analysis (BOOK)

GROK:

Mere Molinism is Stratton’s (and Craig’s, etc.) proposed solution to the exact problems you’ve been wrestling with—the Deity of Deception, epistemic meltdown under exhaustive divine determinism (EDD/Calvinist theological determinism), and the functional similarity to naturalistic determinism that risks practical nihilism about reliable truth-seeking.

Quick Recap of the Tension

From Mohler → atheist brain chemistry determines beliefs (no truth-tracking).

From EDD (per the transcripts) → God determines all beliefs, including false ones among Christians (Deity of Deception).

Result: No independent grounds to trust your reasoning or Scripture, since the determiner (chemistry or God) plants errors as the “normal case.”

“Morally sufficient reasons” don’t fix it if God could just determine the good without the deception (as Stratton and the EPS talks emphasize).

Your “Christian nihilist” label captures the epistemic despair: ultimate truth exists, but accessing it reliably collapses under exhaustive determination.

[….]

Ties to Your Provisionist Lean

Provisionism emphasizes God’s universal salvific will, genuine free will/responsibility, and rejection of determinism that makes God the author of unbelief. Mere Molinism is highly compatible (many Provisionists/Molinists overlap). It avoids Calvinist EDD while affirming strong sovereignty—God isn’t surprised or limited; He knows exactly how free creatures will respond and arranges circumstances accordingly.

Stratton’s personal story (Preface) mirrors many: former 5-point Calvinist whose marriage and faith were strained by EDD implications, transformed by Molinism.

Bottom Line for Your Study

Calling Calvinists “Christian nihilists” is provocative but highlights a legitimate vulnerability in exhaustive determinism. Mere Molinism (or similar libertarian + middle knowledge frameworks) dissolves the Deity of Deception and restores reliable agency/truth-seeking without sacrificing God’s greatness. It’s not the only option (open theism, simple foreknowledge, etc., have their own issues), but Stratton makes a robust cumulative case: biblical, historical (Molina, pre-Reformation surveys), philosophical (FTA, Argument from Reason), and practical (problem of evil, prayer, assurance).

After some back and forth…

… I asked GROK a last question:

  • Recap not on the positive case for Molinism and how it fixes anything… My position is that Calvinism is close to nihilism and no free will or way to substantiate true positions or trust biblical theology or truths

GROK ANSWERS

Yes, your core position holds: Exhaustive divine determinism (EDD) in Calvinism functionally approximates nihilism regarding reliable access to truth, despite affirming God’s ultimate meaning. It undermines genuine free will in a way that leaves no independent ground for substantiating or trusting true positions—including biblical theology itself. Here’s a tight recap based on the materials and arguments we’ve covered.

The Nihilism Parallel

  • Atheistic naturalism (Mohler’s point): Blind brain chemistry/evolution determines all beliefs. No rational agent steering toward truth—just caused outputs. Beliefs are not “up to you”; they’re products of non-rational forces. Result: No trustworthy path to objective truth. Skepticism/nihilism about knowledge follows.
  • Theistic determinism (EDD/compatibilism): God’s decree determines all beliefs, desires, reasoning processes, and conclusions (including false theological ones as the “normal case”). Compatibilist “freedom” (Hendryx: no less deterministic than hard determinism; MacArthur: we act willingly per our determined nature) redefines freedom but doesn’t restore agency. You’re still a determined effect in God’s causal chain—willingly hitting targets God aims, including error.

Both systems make beliefs the inevitable product of forces outside the agent’s ultimate control. The ex-nihilist convert escaped into a gospel with real meaning, responsibility, and truth-tracking. EDD risks pulling back toward functional nihilism: Truth exists (in God), but you have no reliable, non-circular way to access or justify it.

No Genuine Free Will → No Epistemic Responsibility

  • Under EDD, there are no categorical alternative possibilities. You could not have believed/thought/reasoned otherwise in the exact same circumstances—God determined the desires, deliberations, and outcome.
  • Deliberation collapses: True deliberation (weighing reasons, estimating arguments, choosing the best—per Webster/Stratton) requires the ability to evaluate and select among options. If God determines the entire process (how and what you think), you’re not deliberating; the process is happening to you. Reasoning becomes illusory.
  • The Deity of Deception (from the talks): Everyone, including Calvinists/elect, holds false theological beliefs. God determines those too. This isn’t rare pedagogy—it’s systemic. Even “morally sufficient reasons” (greater goods, displaying justice) don’t help: God could determine the good without decreeing the error. The ultimate source of deception is God Himself.

Result: You can’t trust your cognitive faculties for metaphysical/theological truth. Any belief you hold (including EDD, compatibilism, or a specific interpretation of Romans 9) is just what God caused you to affirm. No independent justification.

Inability to Substantiate or Trust Biblical Theology

  • Transfer of trust problem: Scripture is inspired by the same God who determines false beliefs in His followers. If He determines Christians to misread or affirm errors about His word, why trust any interpretation—including the ones supporting EDD? Every proof-text has an undercutting defeater: “God determined me to see this as true.”
  • Self-undermining: The belief that EDD is true is itself determined. You can’t rationally affirm it without begging the question (assuming the reliability of a process God may have determined toward error). This is epistemic meltdown—adapted Argument from Reason.
  • Low view of man and sin: Humans are “passive cogs” or “bags of beliefs” none of which are up to the bag. Sin isn’t genuine missing the mark by a responsible agent—it’s determined. Moral intuitions (and theological reasoning) get undercut.
  • Gospel implications: The “good news” becomes bad news for the non-elect (determined to reject it with no real alternative). Assurance and trust in Scripture erode when the Author determines widespread theological falsehood.

Compatibilism (MacArthur/Hendryx) doesn’t resolve this. It preserves “willingness” and responsibility language, but the determinism is total. Willing puppets are still puppets when it comes to epistemic accountability. You act according to your determined nature, but that nature (and every belief it produces) traces back to the decree.

This is why critics label it close to nihilism: Ultimate truth and meaning exist in God, but finite knowers are left in a predetermined fog with no reliable flashlight. Your Provisionist emphasis on genuine free will and responsibility directly counters this by preserving active agents who can be held accountable for reasoning and responding to truth—without making God the determiner of deception.

The transcripts and arguments we’ve reviewed (Deity of Deception, FTA applications, etc.) consistently press this as a serious vulnerability in EDD, even if Calvinists find it biblically compelling on sovereignty texts. It’s a live tension worth pressing in your study.

Birthright Citizenship is “Dumbest Idea Ever” | Alan Dershowitz

First a quick delve into THE FEDERALIST’S article “SCOTUS Birthplace Citizenship Decision Is John Roberts’ Roe v. Wade“

…Justice Samuel Alito captured the consequences better than anyone else in his dissent:

As interpreted by the Court today, the Fourteenth Amendment confers citizenship on virtually everyone who happens to be born in this country, including the children of “birth tourists,” women who come here solely for the purpose of giving birth to a child and then promptly return home.

A Chinese woman can board a flight from China, spend a few weeks in the Northern Mariana Islands, give birth, return home, and her child acquires an American passport as a constitutional right. The practice has become so widespread that, by some estimates, well over a million Chinese nationals have acquired American citizenship through this mechanism.

And after Trump v. Barbara, Congress cannot simply vote to change it. Nor can the American people. Five justices have placed the issue beyond the reach of ordinary democratic government and elevated it into constitutional doctrine….

Megyn Kelly is joined by Mike Davis, founder of the Article III Project, and Alan Dershowitz, author of “Founding Fathers and One Jewish Mother,” to discuss steps President Trump could take right now to cut down on and stop birthright tourism, whether Justice Kavanaugh could have offered a path to a new ruling, and more.

Debating the Supreme Court Birthright Citizenship Ruling

I came across this clip that intrigued me, so here are multiple breakdowns of this. It is from:

  • “Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan during the congressional debates over the Fourteenth Amendment in 1866 — Congressional Globe, 39th Congress, 1st Session, May 30, 1866, p. 2890”

CHAT-GPT

GENERAL OVERVIEW via CHAT GPT of the smaller clipping

Yes. This is a famous statement by Senator Jacob Howard of Michigan during the congressional debates over the Fourteenth Amendment in 1866. The highlighted passage is often cited in modern debates about birthright citizenship because Howard was one of the senators who introduced and explained the Citizenship Clause.

The key sentence is:

“Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States.”

Then he immediately adds an exception:

“This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”

What was Howard trying to do?

Before the Civil War, the Supreme Court’s infamous Dred Scott (1857) decision held that Black Americans could not be citizens of the United States.

The Fourteenth Amendment was written largely to overturn Dred Scott and permanently establish national citizenship.

Howard is saying:

  • If you’re born in the United States,
  • and you’re subject to U.S. law (“subject to their jurisdiction”),
  • then you’re a citizen.

His main concern was ensuring that formerly enslaved people and their children were unquestionably citizens.

What does “subject to their jurisdiction” mean?

This is where modern arguments arise.

There are two major interpretations:

Traditional / prevailing legal interpretation

Most courts and legal scholars point to the Supreme Court’s decision in United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898).

Under this view:

  • Almost everyone born on U.S. soil is subject to U.S. jurisdiction.
  • The main exceptions are:
    • children of foreign diplomats,
    • children of occupying enemy armies,
    • historically, some tribal Indians who were considered under separate sovereign tribal governments.

Under this interpretation, children born to legal immigrants and illegal immigrants are citizens at birth.

Restrictionist interpretation

Others point to statements like Howard’s and argue:

  • “Jurisdiction” means more than merely being subject to American laws.
  • It means complete political allegiance to the United States.
  • Since foreign nationals owe allegiance to another country, their children should not automatically receive citizenship.

Supporters of this view often highlight Howard’s use of the words: “foreigners” and “aliens” as evidence that the framers intended broader exclusions than modern courts recognize.

Why historians argue over this passage — The dispute comes from the fact that Howard’s sentence can be read two ways.

One side emphasizes:

“…will include every other class of persons.”

The other side emphasizes:

“…will not include persons born in the United States who are foreigners [or] aliens…”

The question becomes:

  • Was Howard referring only to diplomats and their families who happened to be foreigners and aliens?

or

  • Was he excluding all children of foreigners and aliens?

The Supreme Court in Wong Kim Ark largely adopted the first understanding and relied heavily on English common-law birthright citizenship traditions.

An interesting detail — If you read the entire Senate debate, another senator, Lyman Trumbull, explained jurisdiction as:

“Not owing allegiance to anybody else.”

Modern advocates on both sides quote Trumbull because that phrase seems to support the allegiance-based interpretation, yet Congress later enacted laws and courts later interpreted the Citizenship Clause more broadly than many restrictionists believe was intended.

So this clipping is historically important because it is one of the primary pieces of evidence used in the modern birthright citizenship debate. The argument isn’t over what Howard said—the argument is over what Howard meant by “foreigners, aliens” in the context of the entire sentence and the larger debate.

FULLER CLIPPING AND COMMENTARY

Yes. The best source is the actual Congressional Globe (the official record of congressional debates before the Congressional Record existed).

Here is the page containing the exact text from your clipping:

Congressional Globe, 39th Congress, 1st Session, May 30, 1866, p. 2890

University of North Texas Digital Library – Page 2890 (original scan

The image you posted is only a cropped section of that page. The full page shows:

  • Howard introducing the Citizenship Clause.
  • His explanation of “all persons born in the United States.”
  • The exchange with Senator Doolittle regarding Indians.
  • Howard’s statement that tribal Indians were not considered under U.S. jurisdiction in the same sense because they maintained separate tribal relations.
  • Senator Cowan immediately asking whether children of Chinese immigrants and Gypsies born in the U.S. would be citizens. (UNT Digital Library)

What’s especially interesting is what follows immediately after the section in your screenshot. Cowan asks:

“Is the child of the Chinese immigrant in California a citizen? Is the child of a Gypsy born in Pennsylvania a citizen?” (UNT Digital Library)

That question is important because it shows that senators at the time were already thinking about the application of the clause to children born to non-citizen immigrants.

Another excellent source is the National Constitution Center’s reproduction of Howard’s speech:

National Constitution Center – Howard’s Speech Introducing the Fourteenth Amendment

And a transcript version:

Teaching American History – Speech Introducing the Fourteenth Amendment

One thing to keep in mind when reading modern arguments is that both sides quote Howard. The debate usually turns on whether the phrase:

“foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers…”

should be read as:

  1. One category (foreign diplomats and their families), or
  2. Several categories (foreigners generally, aliens generally, and diplomats).

The punctuation is part of why this 1866 sentence is still debated today. (UNT Digital Library)

If you’d like, I can also pull the next few pages (2891–2893) and walk through the entire debate in plain English. That’s actually where some of the most revealing discussion occurs.

 

Is God the “devil” Behind Satan? | The Redundancy Argument (TRA)

I sent a friend the video of Dr. Theodore Zachariades stating that God wills [causes, not just permits] a man to be unfaithful to his wife.

  • God works all things after the Council of His will. Even keeping those kings who want to commit adultery from committing so! And when He wants to, he orders those to commit adultery when he wants to! (Video)

My friend dismissed this person as a hyper-Calvinist. But as the video below notes, using his definition of a “hyper Calvinist,” A.W. Pink, John Piper, Jeff Durbin, James White, and many-many more, would thus be considered the same. Because of the age restriction, the video must be watch on YouTube, link in pic.

When I asked him: “Question RW, is Piper, Calvin, White and Durbin hyper-Calvinists?” He simply replied “Fishing Bait.” But this is an interesting phenomena… and after decades of encountering Mormons and J-Dubs, the disconnect is the same. I get links and not actualizing on statements made when challenged. When shown a person who follows to the end the logical conclusion of theistic determinism found in Calvinism, the person who is the Calvinist is dismissed as a “hyper-Calvinist” by their fellow Calvinist’s if they are challenged. When that label is then applied rightly to others for the same reason — meaning, using RW’s definition of what a hyper-Calvinist is — then all these others have said worse; and would be by definition, hyper-Calvinists.

Two quick examples. 1st John Calvin, then, John Piper:

John CALVIN:

… how foolish and frail is the support of divine justice afforded by the suggestion that evils come to be, not by His will but by His permission. . . . It is a quite frivolous refuge to say that God otiosely permits them, when Scripture shows Him not only willing, but the author of them. . . . Who does not tremble at these judgments with which God works in the hearts of even the wicked whatever He will, rewarding them nonetheless according to desert? Again it is quite clear from the evidence of Scripture that God works in the hearts of men to incline their wills just as he will, whether to good for His mercy’s sake, or to evil according to their merits.

John Calvin, “The Eternal Predestination of God,” 10:11

John Piper:

Ephesians 1:11 goes even further by declaring that God in Christ

“works all things according to the counsel of his will.” Here the Greek word for “works” is energeø, which indicates that God not merely carries all of the universe’s objects and events to their appointed ends but that he actually brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that he himself brings about these evil aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4). This includes—as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem—God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child: “The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, even the wicked for the day of evil” (Prov. 16:4, NASB ).14 “When times are good, be happy; but when times are bad, consider: God has made the one as well as the other” (Eccl. 7:14, NIV).

John Piper and Justin Taylor, eds., Suffering and the Sovereignty of God (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Books, 2006), 42. (FULLER QUOTE VIA THIS PDF)

John Lennox notes in his wonderful book,  “Determined to Believe? The Sovereignty of God, Freedom, Faith, and Human Responsibility,” that Martin Luther struggled with the consequences of this form of thought:

Martin Luther at the time of the Reformation. In his book The Bondage of the Will, written in response to Erasmus’ essay On Free Will, Luther said:

[The] omnipotence and foreknowledge of God, I repeat, utterly destroy the doctrine of “free-will”… Doubtless it gives the greatest possible offence to common sense or natural reason, that God, Who is proclaimed as being full of mercy and goodness, and so on, should of His own mere will abandon, harden and damn men, as though He delighted in the sins and great eternal torments of such poor wretches. It seems an iniquitous, cruel, intolerable thought to think of God; and it is this that has been such a stumbling block to so many great men down through the ages. And who would not stumble at it? I have stumbled at it myself more than once, down to the deepest pit of despair, so that I wished I had never been made a man. (That was before I knew how health-giving that despair was, and how close to grace.)

In this passage Luther seems to be aware that there is a deep moral problem with aspects of his view… [RPT: before redefining “grace” that is – almost like what is, is.]

Calvinism’s [T.U.L.I.P.] Logical Conclusion Displayed

In a reference in that above book is this paper: “I Believe In Divine Sovereignty,” by Thomas H. McCall in Trinity Journal (TRINJ 29:2 [Fall 2008]), 209-210. Of which I excerpt:

… He [John Piper] works long and hard to illustrate this [theistic determinism] from Rom 9:1-23, which he concludes is about the purposes of God being preserved “by means of the predestination of individuals to their respective eternal destines.”11 And we are not to think that God is righteous in spite of such action—instead we are to see that God is righteous because of this action, for the “heart of Paul’s defense” is this: “in choosing unconditionally those on whom he will have mercy and those whom he will harden God is not unrighteous, for in this ‘electing purpose’ he is acting out of a full allegiance to his name and esteem of his glory.”12

This all-determining action of God notably includes predestination and election, but it extends far beyond—it extends to everything. God determines all events that occur in the universe, including all demonic and satanic action.13 As Mark R. Talbot puts it, God creates, sends, instigates, and moves others to do evil, because “nothing that exists or occurs falls outside God’s ordaining will.”14 Talbot makes the point with relentless and unmistakable clarity:

Nothing, including no evil person or thing or event or deed. God’s foreordination is the ultimate reason why everything comes about, including the existence of all evil persons and things and the occurrence of any evil acts or events.15

Make no mistake: “when even the worst of evils befall us, they do not ultimately come from anywhere other than God’s hand.”16 …

NOTES:

11. John Piper, The Justification of God: An Exegetical and Theological Study of Romans 9:1-23 (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1993), 218, cf. 56-73.

12. Ibid., 219.

13. On this see John Piper, “Suffering and the Sovereignty of God: Ten Aspects of God’s Sovereignty Over Satan and Satan’s Hand in It,” in Suffering and the Sovereignty of God, 19-30. Piper here uses the rather confusing (given his determinism) language of “permission.” By my lights, what he means when he says that God “permits” something is this (a) God determines it to occur and then (b) does not act so as to override his previous ordination. Regarding talk of “permission,” I think that John Calvin’s approach is more consistent, [….]  see John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion I.xviii.1, and John S. Feinberg, No One Like Him: The Doctrine of God (Wheaton: Crossway, 2001), 696.

14. Mark R. Talbot, “‘All the Good That Is Ours in Christ: Seeing God’s Gracious Hand in the Hurts Others Do to Us,” in Suffering and the Sovereignty of God, 43 (41-43), emphasis original.

15. Ibid., 43-44.

16. lbid., 47.

Dave Hunt is right to say that Calvin uses unbiblical positions in dealing with this Augustinian determinism:

There is yet another question that troubles many: If man is free to choose between options, would that not in itself deny both God’s sovereignty and His foreknowledge? Luther claimed that this question was the very heart of the Reformation and of the gospel itself. In fact, Luther dogmatically insisted that it was impossible for God to foreknow the future and for man at the same time to be a free agent to act as he wills.

Believing firmly in God’s foreknowledge, Luther wrote an entire book titled The Bondage of the Will, to prove that the very idea of man’s free will is a fallacy and an illusion. Several reasons have already been given as to why Luther was wrong on this point, and that issue will be dealt with further in the next chapter.

Though Calvin took so much from Augustine, like Luther he also rejected the Augustinian belief that God could foreknow the future, while at the same time man could have a free will. According to Calvin, foreknowledge leaves no room whatsoever for free will, because foreknowledge is the same as predestination:

If God merely foresaw human events, and did not also arrange and dispose of them at his pleasure, there might be room for agitating the question [of free will] … but since he foresees the things which are to happen, simply because he has decreed them, they are so to happen, it is vain to debate about prescience. …

If this frigid fiction [of free will] is received, where will be the omnipotence of God, by which, according to his secret counsel on which everything depends, he rules over all? (Calvin, Institutes, III: xxiii, 6–7.)

Calvin repeatedly uses such unbiblical and utterly fallacious reasoning.

The Calvinist assumes a contradiction between sovereignty and free will that doesn’t exist. The fact that God is able to allow man freedom of choice, while still effecting His purposes unhindered, is all the more glorifying to His sovereign wisdom, power, and foreknowledge.

And one last point on this via MONERGISM.COM:

  • In order to understand this better theologians have come up with the term “compatibilism” to describe the concurrence of God’s sovereignty and man’s responsibility. Compatibilism is a form of determinism and it should be noted that this position is no less deterministic than hard determinism. — John Hendryx (John Hendryx is the creator and editor of Monergism.com | SEE: “We are not Determinists!” for more)

Here is A.W. Tozer’s take of the above:

  • Here is my view: God sovereignly decreed that man should be free to exercise moral choice, and man from the beginning has fulfilled that decree by making his choice between good and evil. When he chooses to do evil, he does not thereby countervail the sovereign will of God but fulfills it, inasmuch as the eternal decree decided not which choice the man should make but that he should be free to make it. If in His absolute freedom God has willed to give man limited freedom, who is there to stay His hand or say, What doest thou? Mans will is free because God is sovereign. A God less than sovereign could not bestow moral freedom upon His creatures. He would be afraid to do so.

Tozer is saying that the Calvinist God is too small. Something I run through with Mormon Elders if they decide to come into my home to discuss further their “mission.” Not just too small as in Mormonism, but a character deficient God is what we see in Calvinism.

One of the single strongest philosophical critiques of exhaustive Calvinistic determinism is that it isn’t merely, “God ordaining evil.” That’s been debated for centuries. It’s that once every thought, desire, temptation, deception, warning, and response is exhaustively decreed, enormous portions of Scripture become functionally redundant.

Glen Shellrude makes this point from dozens of New Testament angles—not just Satan, but exhortations, warnings, prayer, false teaching, perseverance, church discipline, evangelism, and moral responsibility.

The Redundancy Problem in Exhaustive Calvinistic Determinism

The Redundancy Argument (TRA)

Theological determinism, as commonly defined within Reformed theology, is the belief that God unconditionally decreed every event in history. The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy summarizes the position as the view that God determines every event that occurs in the history of the world, whether described as His decree, providential control, or efficacious will. Under this understanding, nothing—including every human decision, temptation, belief, unbelief, deception, repentance, or act of faith—could ever occur differently than God eternally ordained.

This creates what may be called the Redundancy Problem. If mankind is already born morally incapable of responding positively to God’s revelation apart from irresistible grace, then many of Scripture’s mechanisms for explaining unbelief become strangely unnecessary. Why does Satan need to blind minds already born incapable of seeing? Why would God judicially harden people who are supposedly already hardened by nature? Why speak in parables to conceal truth from those who could never understand it anyway? Why send strong delusion upon people who were already unable to believe? These biblical actions make perfect sense as judicial acts against previously resistible rebels, but they appear redundant if Total Inability already guarantees the identical outcome.

The redundancy extends far beyond Satan. Throughout the New Testament believers are warned against false teachers, exhorted to persevere, commanded to resist temptation, urged to pray, rebuked for sin, corrected for doctrinal error, and called to repentance. Yet under exhaustive theological determinism, God not only ordains every warning but also ordains every false doctrine, every deception, every act of apostasy, every sinful choice, and every response to those warnings. As Glen Shellrude observes, if theological determinism is consistently applied, God choreographs both the rise of heresy and the degree to which believers either resist or embrace it. Likewise, God ordains every act of obedience and every act of disobedience, every success and every failure, rendering many of Scripture’s exhortations and warnings functionally descriptive of God’s decree rather than genuine appeals capable of being either accepted or rejected.

The issue is not merely philosophical—it is exegetical. Scripture repeatedly portrays Satan as actively blinding unbelievers (2 Corinthians 4:4), false teachers as genuinely deceiving the church, and believers as capable of resisting deception through faithful perseverance. Those realities fit naturally within a framework in which people are accountable moral agents who may either receive or suppress God’s revelation. However, if every thought, temptation, deception, rejection, and response has already been immutably determined by divine decree, then Satan’s blinding activity, warnings against apostasy, calls to repentance, and commands to resist error appear to accomplish nothing that had not already been guaranteed from eternity. In that sense, Satan becomes less a genuine adversary than an unnecessary middleman carrying out a script whose outcome could never have been otherwise.

The result is that Scripture’s repeated appeals to “hear,” “repent,” “believe,” “beware,” “stand firm,” “do not be deceived,” and “choose” lose much of their ordinary force. The biblical narrative consistently presents these as meaningful appeals directed toward responsible hearers, whereas exhaustive theological determinism necessarily understands them as elements within an already settled decree. The irony is striking: the very worldview intended to magnify God’s sovereignty can unintentionally render many of Scripture’s warnings, explanations, and even Satan’s own ministry logically redundant.

The Redundancy Argument Against Exhaustive Theological Determinism

P1

If every human thought, desire, temptation, deception, belief, and response is exhaustively determined by God’s eternal decree, then no secondary means can alter or further secure the predetermined outcome.

P2

Scripture presents secondary means—Satan’s blinding, judicial hardening, parables concealing truth, warnings against apostasy, false teachers, exhortations, rebukes, and calls to repentance—as genuine means affecting people’s responses.

P3

If those responses are already exhaustively determined and cannot occur otherwise, these secondary means do not function to change or secure any outcome that was not already guaranteed.

Conclusion

Therefore, under exhaustive theological determinism, many of Scripture’s stated means—including Satan’s blinding ministry—become functionally redundant.

[Hat-Tip, Adapted via Freethinking Ministry]

Satan is Exhibit A in a much larger pattern. The same logic applies to:

  • Satan blinding minds.
  • God hardening hearts.
  • Jesus speaking in parables to conceal truth.
  • Warnings against false teachers.
  • Commands to repent.
  • Calls to believe.
  • Exhortations to persevere.
  • Church discipline.
  • Appeals to resist temptation.

This broader framing also aligns well with the point Glen Shellrude develops:

  • if exhaustive determinism is assumed, many New Testament warnings and appeals become difficult to understand as genuine means of influencing human response because the responses are already fixed by decree.

QUOTE:

Warnings to Believers

Related to the above point are the frequent warnings in the New Testament about embracing erroneous teaching. Jesus warns about false prophets (e.g., Matt. 7:15-20), Paul warns the Philippian church about the dangers of both Judaizers and libertines (Phil. 3:2­21), and the Colossian church about a theology that is somewhat difficult to reconstruct precisely (Col. 2:16-23). In his letter to the Galatians he rebukes Christians for embracing a Judaizing theology, and in the Johannine epistles, John rebukes those who embrace a theology that again is difficult to reconstruct precisely. When read within the framework of theological determinism, the conclusion is that God choreographed all the details of these heretical theologies as well as the extent to which believers would resist or embrace false teaching or realign themselves with truth when they stumbled.

In Rev. 14:9-13 believers are warned not to compromise when persecuted. Those who fail to heed this warning and deny their faith will come under eschatological judgment, while those who remain faithful to the point of death will “rest from their labor” (i.e. will experience eschatological salvation). Elsewhere Revelation explicitly states that God extends the grace that will enable believers to remain faithful in a tribulation context (e.g., Rev. 7:1­8; 11:1-2). Revelation 14:9-13 assumes that believers can exercise their grace-empowered libertarian freedom by choosing either to defend their faith or to deny it. However, based on Calvinist assumptions, God is the one who decided “before the foundation of the world” how each believer would choose.

In a similar vein, philosophical determinism (atheism/evolutionary paradigms). In what follows — quote’wise — if this is true fore secular forms of determinism, then so to it applies to THEISTIC DETERMINISM:

Atheists reject evidence as illusory…

Why?

Because they “have to.”

Donald C. Abel in his book, Fifty Readings in Philosophy, asks us to imagine for a moment that you walking along and come to a fork in the road. One street is called Divinity Avenue, the other Oxford Street. Assuming you have to walk down one of them, there is a confrontation of choice.  Continuing he says,

  • Now, I ask you seriously to suppose that this ambiguity of my choice is real; and then to make the impossible hypothesis that the choice is made twice over, and each time falls on a different street. In other words, imagine that I first walk through Divinity Avenue, and then imagine that the powers governing the universe annihilate ten minutes of time with all that it contained, and set me back at the door of this hall just as I was before the choice was made. Imagine then that, everything else being the same, I now make a different choice and traverse Oxford Street. You, as passive spectators, look on and see the two alternative universes; one of them with me walking through Divinity Avenue in it, the other with the same me walking through Oxford Street. Now, if you are determinists, you believe one of these universes eternally impossible, because of the intrinsic irrationality or accidentality somewhere involved in it. However, looking outwardly at these universes, can you say which is the impossible and accidental one, and which the rational and necessary one?

Donald C. Abel, Fifty Readings in Philosophy (New York, NY: McGraw-Hill, 1994), 296.

  • “He thus acknowledged the need for any theory to allow that humans have genuine freedom to recognize the truth. He (again, correctly) saw that if all thought, belief, feeling, and choice are determined (i.e., forced on humans by outside conditions) then so is the determinists’ acceptance of the theory of determinism forced on them by those same conditions. In that case they could never claim to know their theory is true since the theory making that claim would be self-referentially incoherent. In other words, the theory requires that no belief is ever a free judgment made on the basis of experience or reason, but is always a compulsion over which the believer has no control.”

Roy A. Clouser, The Myth of Religious Neutrality: An Essay on the Hidden Role of Religious Belief in Theories (Notre Dame, IN: Notre Dame University Press, 2005), 174.

The implications of strict naturalism are grim or even counterintuitive. For example, Bertrand Russell affirmed that any philosophy hoping to stand must ultimately take for granted the (naturalistic) picture of unguided causes and accidental collocations of atoms and must be built on the “firm foundation of unyielding despair.” When it comes to naturalism’s implications for morality, naturalist Kai Nielsen contends that reason can’t bring us to morality; this picture ”is not a pleasant one,” and that reflecting on it ”depresses me.” When it comes to consciousness, naturalist Daniel Dennett considers it an illusion- -something fellow-atheist Thomas Nagel finds utterly confused:

  • You may well ask how consciousness can be an illusion, since every illusion is itself a conscious experience …. So it cannot appear to me that I am conscious though I am not … the reality of my own consciousness is the one thing I cannot be deluded about …. The view [of Dennett] is so unnatural that it is hard to convey …. Dennett asks us to turn our backs on what is glaringly obvious. … And he asks us to do this because the reality of such phenomena is incompatible with the scientific materialism that in his view sets the outer bounds of reality. He is, in Aristotle’s words, ”maintaining a thesis at all costs.”

Jaegwon Kim acknowledges the stark picture painted by the naturalistic brush. Naturalism is ”imperialistic; it demands ‘full coverage’ … and exacts a terribly high ontological price.”

Paul Copan and Charles Taliaferro (editors), The Naturalness of Belief: New Essays on Theism’s Rationality (New York, NY: Lexington Books, 2019), viii

I could go on, but you get the point. To fashion the issue for you to see, Jaegwon Kim could have said:

  • Theistic determinism is ”imperialistic; it demands ‘full coverage’ … and exacts a terribly high ontological price.” (added for emphasis) 

What is this price? Here is just one example… God vs. God:

Here is a Facebook post I recently posted:

  • “What is there for God to harden, provoke, or restrain if not the autonomous will of creatures?”

If God knows the future because He planned the future [Sproul, Piper, MacArthur, etc.], when God hardens, provokes, or restraines…. is He working against Himself?

If the “T” of TULIP [total depravity] is a reality, wouldn’t hardening, provoking, or restraining someone be the same thing as digging up bodies in a cemetery and putting blindfolds on the rotting cadavers?

In other words, does He plan the abuse of a child just to redeem that act in some way to bring glory to Himself? Is Satan superfluous?

Are all the prescriptions in the Bible making God out to be duplicitous – since he has planned our actions thru determinitive means?

You could not argue that “evil” is really “evil.” Eastern philosophies run into the same problems as the atheist’s/evolutionist’s I just noted above. The Calvinist runs into the same issue. And it is a distortion of Christianity (T.U.L.I.P.):

(Eph 1:11) “works all things according to the counsel of his will.” Here the Greek word for “works” is 𝑒𝑛𝑒𝑟𝑔𝑒ø, which indicates that God not merely carries all of the universe’s objects and events to their appointed ends but that he actually 𝑏𝑟𝑖𝑛𝑔𝑠 𝑎𝑏𝑜𝑢𝑡 all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that he himself brings about these evil aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4). This includes—as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem—God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child: “The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, even the wicked for the day of evil” (Prov. 16:4, NASB ).14 “When times are good, be happy; but when times are bad, consider: God has made the one as well as the other” (Eccl. 7:14, NIV).

John Piper and Justin Taylor, eds., Suffering and the Sovereignty of God (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Books, 2006), 42.

Or…

Is it more like Tozer notes — which lowers man’s position by making him/her responsible to God’s law; and keeps God’s holiness and glory intact as He truly redeems or judges such actions (is He judging Himself in Calvinism? Working against His own will? Secretly?)

TOZER:

God sovereignly decreed that man should be free to exercise moral choice, and man from the beginning has fulfilled that decree by making his choice between good and evil. When he chooses to do evil, he does not thereby countervail the sovereign will of God but fulfills it, inasmuch as the eternal decree decided not which choice the man should make but that he should be free to make it. If in His absolute freedom God has willed to give man limited freedom, who is there to stay His hand or say, ‘What doest thou?’ Man’s will is free because God is sovereign. A God less than sovereign could not bestow moral freedom upon His creatures. He would be afraid to do so.

There is an analogy of two chess players. As you walk up on one professional chess player, he is sitting on one side of the bench, and at the end of his move he gets up walks to the other side, sits down, thinks a moment and makes his move. This process is repeated until the game is over and the chess player wins.

Guaranteed.

When you ask him why he is playing chess alone, he says to ensure his victory. Or as Piper notes in his book astonished by God: “…the reason God knows the future is because he plans the future and accomplishes it.”

You wouldn’t think too highly of his skills, would you? As you walk down the road a bit further, you come across another chess master. This time however, there is a line of players, world famous chess players, lined up as far as the eye could see. As you watched, the one chess player was handily beating every player that sat before him. Player after player.

With whom would you be more impressed with?

And it is this perceived contradiction that leads Calvinists to a polluting of God’s character, which A.W. Tozer tackles in his book, Knowledge of the Holy. Here is a excerpt…. I changed a couple words to read better:

… While a complete explanation of the origin of sin eludes us, there are a few things we do know. In His sovereign wisdom God has permitted evil to exist in carefully restricted areas of His creation, a kind of fugitive outlaw whose activities are temporary and limited in scope. In doing this God has acted according to His infinite wisdom and goodness. More than that no one knows at present; and more than that no one needs to know. The name of God is sufficient guarantee of the perfection of His works.

Another real problem created by the doctrine of the divine sovereignty has to do with the will of man. If God rules His universe by His sovereign decrees, how is it possible for man to exercise free choice? And if he cannot exercise freedom of choice, how can he be held responsible for his conduct? Is he not a mere puppet whose actions are determined by a behind-the-scenes God who pulls the strings as it pleases Him?

The attempt to answer these questions has divided the Christian church neatly into two camps which have borne the names of two distinguished theologians, Jacobus Arminius and John Calvin. Most Christians are content to get into one camp or the other and deny either sovereignty to God or free will to man. It appears possible, however, to reconcile these two positions without doing violence to either, although the effort that follows may prove deficient to partisans of one camp or the other.

Here is my view: God sovereignly decreed that man should be free to exercise moral choice, and man from the beginning has fulfilled that decree by making his choice between good and evil. When he chooses to do evil, he does not thereby countervail the sovereign will of God but fulfills it, inasmuch as the eternal decree decided not which choice the man should make but that he should be free to make it. If in His absolute freedom God has willed to give man limited freedom, who is there to stay His hand or say, What doest thou? Mans will is free because God is sovereign. A God less than sovereign could not bestow moral freedom upon His creatures. He would be afraid to do so.

Perhaps a homely illustration might help us to understand. An ocean liner leaves New York bound for Liverpool. Its destination has been determined by proper authorities. Nothing can change it. This is at least a faint picture of sovereignty.

On board the liner are several scores of passengers. These are not in chains, neither are their activities determined for them by decree. They are completely free to move about as they will. They eat, sleep, play, lounge about on the deck, read, talk, altogether as they please; but all the while the great liner is carrying them steadily onward toward a predetermined port.

Both freedom and sovereignty are present here and they do not contradict each other. So it is, I believe, with mans freedom and the sovereignty of God. The mighty liner of Gods sovereign design keeps its steady course over the sea of history. God moves undisturbed and unhindered toward the fulfilment of those eternal purposes which He purposed in Christ Jesus before the world began. We do not know all that is included in those purposes, but enough has been disclosed to furnish us with a broad outline of things to come and to give us good hope and firm assurance of future well-being.

We know that God will fulfil every promise made to the prophets; we know that sinners will some day be cleansed out of the earth; we know that a ransomed company will enter into the joy of God and that the righteous will shine forth in the kingdom of their Father; we know that Gods perfections will yet receive universal acclamation, that all created intelligences will own Jesus Christ Lord to the glory of God the Father, that the present imperfect order will be done away, and a new heaven and a new earth be established forever.

Toward all this God is moving with infinite wisdom and perfect precision of action. No one can dissuade Him from His purposes; nothing turn Him aside from His plans. Since He is omniscient, there can be no unforeseen circumstances, no accidents. As He is sovereign, there can be no countermanded orders, no breakdown in authority; and as He is omninpotent, there can be no want of power to achieve His chosen ends. God is sufficient unto Himself for all these things.

In the meanwhile things are not as smooth as this quick outline might suggest. The mystery of iniquity doth already work. Within the broad field of Gods sovereign, permissive will the deadly conflict of good with evil continues with increasing fury. God will yet have His way in the whirlwind and the storm, but the storm and the whirlwind are here, and as responsible beings we must make our choice in the present moral situation.

Certain things have been decreed by the free determination of God, and one of these is the law of choice and consequences. God has decreed that all who willingly commit themselves to His Son Jesus Christ in the obedience of faith shall receive eternal life and become sons of God. He has also decreed that all who love darkness and continue in rebellion against the high authority of heaven shall remain in a state of spiritual alienation and suffer eternal death at last.

Reducing the whole matter to individual terms, we arrive at some vital and highly personal conclusions. In the moral conflict now raging around us whoever is on Gods side is on the winning side and cannot lose; whoever is on the other side is on the losing side and cannot win. Here there is no chance, no gamble. There is freedom to choose which side we shall be on but no freedom to negotiate the results of the choice once it is made. By the mercy of God we may repent a wrong choice and alter the consequences by making a new and right choice. Beyond that we cannot go.

The whole matter of moral choice centers around Jesus Christ. Christ stated it plainly: He that is not with me is against me, and No man cometh unto the Father, but by me. The gospel message embodies three distinct elements: an announcement, a command, and a call. It announces the good news of redemption accomplished in mercy; it commands all men everywhere to repent and it calls all men to surrender to the terms of grace by believing on Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour.

We must all choose whether we will obey the gospel or turn away in unbelief and reject its authority. Our choice is our own, but the consequences of the choice have already been determined by the sovereign will of God, and from this there is no appeal.

Calvinism’s Conflation | Flowers and Tozer

Dr. Leighton Flowers discusses the unnecessary issue of doublethink on the Calvinistic system. (The full video is HERE.)

This first graphic is from Leighton Flowers discussion of the circles in the following article:

THE CONFLATION OF THE CALVINIST

In my reading of a book critique (written by Calvinistic scholar Broughton Knox in reply to an Arminian scholar Howard Marshall) I happened upon another prime example of the Calvinistic conflation that we have discussed a number of times. Knox wrote:

“The Pelagian mind is inclined to ascribe, shall we say, 5% to God and 95% to man, the semi-Pelagian 50%-50%, while the evangelical Arminian, such as our writer, 95% to God and 5% to man. Yet, after all, it is this last 5% which makes the difference between heaven and hell, so that man is, in the end, his own saviour.”

I must ask this vital question: What exactly are these percentages representing? We (non-Calvinistic “pelagians”) are ascribing 95% OF WHAT to God?

95% of man’s desires?

95% of man’s sin?

95% of man’s choices?

95% of Christ’s provision of atonement?

95% of salvation?

95% of WHAT!?!

It seems to me that in the well-meant effort of the Calvinist to ascribe all good things to God they have unintentionally also ascribed all bad things to Him. So, while the Calvinist seems most concerned with making sure mankind takes no credit for their salvation, the non-Calvinist seems more concerned with a recognizably good and Holy God. I suspect both men have a noble purpose in their pursuits, but as with most disputes the balance is somewhere in the middle.

But this balance cannot be seen in dividing vaguely defined percentages of what is to be ascribed to God and to man. Salvation is 100% of God. Merely affirming the responsibility of mankind to accept and/or reject God’s appeals for reconciliation does not in any way affect that percentage.

Only when a Calvinist, like Knox in the quote above, conflates man’s choice to humbly repent in faith with God’s choice to save whosoever does so are these types of dilemmas created. In other words, Calvinists have created a dilemma by conflating two choices as if they were one and calling them both “salvation.”

For instance, the prodigal son’s choice to return home is distinct from the father’s choice to redeem him once he arrives. To treat those two distinct choices as if they were one in the same [i.e. under the meticulous control of the father] creates an unnecessary dilemma.

Likewise, a sinner’s choice to repent in response to God’s appeals for reconciliation is distinct from God’s choice to provide those means of reconciliation through Christ’s blood. Thus, God is always the decisive cause of who He saves and the means by which He saves them. And mankind is the decisive cause of his own sin and his choice to repent of it. Only by conflating these two distinct choices is the Calvinistic dilemma really a dilemma at all.

God is 100% responsible for his choices.

Man is 100% responsible for his choices.

There is no dilemma here.

These next two “circle graphs” are based on chapter two (God’s Part and Man’s)of A.W. Tozer’s book, “Paths to Power.” The only difference between the two is one is basic, the one that follows chapter two is the same, but jazzed up. And if you are not picking up what Tozer is laying down, he is calling out [in the future] the Pipers, MacArthurs, Sprouls, etc.; as well as concurrent authors like A.W. Pink.

Here is chapter two (also, the PDF):

Failure to distinguish the part of God from the part of man in salvation has prevented countless seekers from finding peace, and left whole sections of the Church of Christ powerless for long periods of time.

Let it be boldly stated that there are some things which only God can do, and for us to attempt to do them is to waste our efforts; and there are other things Which only man can do, and for us to ask God to do them is to waste our prayers. It is vain for us to try to do the work which can only be done by sovereign grace; it is equally vain for us to implore God to do what has been commanded by sovereign authority.

Among the things which only God can do, of first importance to us is the work of redemption. Atonement was accomplished in that holy place where none but a divine Saviour could come. That glorious work owes nothing to the effort of any man; the best of Adam’s race could add nothing there. It was all of God, and man could simply have no part.

Redemption is an objective fact. It is a work potentially saving, wrought for man, but done independent of and exterior to the individual. Christ’s work on Calvary made atonement for every man, but it did not save any man.

Salvation is personal. It is redemption made effective toward the individual. Salvation is the work of God in the heart, made possible by the work of God on the Cross. Both the once-done work of redemption and the many-times-multiplied work of salvation are in the class of things which only God can do. No man can forgive his own sins; no man can regenerate his own heart; no man can declare himself justified and clean. All this is the work of God in man, flowing out of the work which Christ has already done for man. Universal atonement makes salvation universally available, but it does not make it universally effective toward the individual.

If atonement was made for all men, why are not all saved? The answer is that before redemption becomes effective toward the individual man there is an act which that man must do. That act is not one of merit, but of condition. And it is an act of eternal importance to us because its non-fulfillment prevents us from receiving the effective work of Christ in personal salvation. This act of appropriating salvation is one which only man can do.

The orthodoxy of our day is afraid to face this truth. We have been schooled in the doctrine of grace, and we fear to state things so baldly lest we rob grace of its glory and detract from the finished work of Christ. But it is a mistake to speak softly on a subject so vital to the soul. We should get the distinction clear and then be as bold as the truth compels us to be. We need not fear that we shall steal away the glory of God by honoring the truth He Himself has revealed. Failure to distinguish God’s part from man’s has resulted in mental confusion and moral inaction among Christians. Assurance and power require that we know and do the truth as revealed to us in the Sacred Word.

In the things-which-God-cannot-do category is this: God cannot do our repenting for us. In our efforts to magnify grace we have so preached the truth as to convey the impression that repentance is a work of God. This is a grave mistake, and one which is taking a frightful toll among Christians everywhere. God has commanded all men to repent. It is a work which only they can do. It is morally impossible for one person to repent for another. Even Christ could not do this. He could die for us, but He cannot do our repenting for us.

God in His mercy may “incline” us to repent and by His inworking Spirit assist us to repent; but before we can be saved we must of our own free will repent toward God and believe in Jesus Christ. This the Bible plainly teaches; this experience abundantly supports. Repentance involves moral reformation. The wrong practices are on man’s part, and only man can correct them. Lying, for instance, is an act of man and one for which he must accept full responsibility. When he repents he will quit lying. God will not quit for him; he will quit for himself.

When stated thus frankly everything seems obvious enough, and we may wonder how reasonable persons could expect someone else to relieve them of their personal obligation to repent. In practice, however, and under the pressure of strong religious emotion, things are not so plain as one might suppose. The fact is, the “all has been done, you can do nothing” emphasis has caused no end of confusion among seekers everywhere. People are told they must surely perish because of what they are, not because of what they do; what they do does not enter into the picture at all. And furthermore, they can do nothing in the direction of salvation; even to suggest such a thing is to offend God: is not the horrible example of Cain enough to prove that? So, they are tossed helplessly between the first Adam and the last Adam. One did their sinning for them and the other has done everything else. Thus, the nerve of their moral life is cut and they sink back in despair, afraid to move lest they be guilty of sinful self-effort. At the same time they are deeply troubled with the knowledge that there is something seriously wrong with their religious lives. The remedy is to see clearly that men are not lost because of what someone did thousands of years ago; they are lost because they sin individually and in person. We will never be judged for Adam’s sin, but for our own. For our own sins we are and must remain fully responsible until they have been brought for disposition to the Cross of Jesus. The idea that we can delegate repentance is an erroneous inference drawn from the doctrine of grace wrongly presented and imperfectly understood.

Another thing God cannot do: He cannot believe for us. Faith is a gift of God, to be sure, but whether or not we shall act upon that faith lies altogether within our own power. We may or we may not, as we choose. True belief requires that we change our attitude toward God. It means that we not only acknowledge His trustworthiness but go on to trust His promises and obey His commandments. That is Bible faith; anything less is self-deception. Where God is the object of faith He cannot be the subject also. The repentant sinner is the subject, and as such he must put his faith in Christ as his Saviour. This he must do for himself. God may help him, He may wait long and be patient, but He can never take his place and do the act for him.

The day when it is once more understood that God will not be responsible for our sin and unbelief will be a glad one for the Church of Christ. The realization that we are personally responsible for our individual sins may be a shock to our hearts, but it will clear the air and remove the uncertainty. Returning sinners waste their time begging God to perform the very acts He has sternly commanded them to do. He will not argue with them; He will simply leave them to their disappointment. Unbelief is a great sin; or more accurately stated, it is an evidence of sins unconfessed. Repent and believe is the order. Faith will follow repentance, and salvation will be the outcome.

Any interpretation of free grace which relieves the sinner of responsibility to repent is not of God nor in accordance with revealed truth. Nor is God responsible to help us to repent. He owes us nothing but justice. The only man who actually gets his just deserts is the man who dies in sin and goes unblessed to judgment. All others are objects of unearned mercy. To wait for God to help us to repent, or to believe that He is morally obliged to do so, is to misunderstand the whole plan of salvation.

Just what has all this to do with the lack of power in our churches? Very much indeed. Millions begin their religious lives without understanding their moral duty to God. They try to believe without having first repented. They try to have faith without intending to bring their lives into moral conformity with the will of God. Consequently, they are not clear about anything. They are full of doubts and hidden perplexities. They are secretly disappointed with their lives, and are for the most part joyless and without enthusiasm. It is hard to extract much delight from uncertainty.

There is no use exhorting such would-be Christians to seek power; no use talking to them about the surrendered life. They simply cannot understand it. They listen to the sermon and then go their way, waiting in vain for God to do the things He has commanded them to do. Until this is corrected we can hope for very little power in our churches.

  • Within the Non-Calvinist camp, there are at least two nuanced views on how God allows sinners to respond in faith. The first view is the Arminian view — which says that God’s work of grace (prevenient grace) for all people is needed to enable any sinner to freely choose to respond in faith to the Gospel message. The second view is the Provisionist View — which says that the Gospel message itself [see more below]  is God’s work of grace so that when it is preached to all people, any sinner can freely choose to respond in faith. The proclamation of the Gospel is powerfully sufficient enough to bring salvation to those who will believe. While the Arminian and the Provisionist each have a different take on why all humans can respond to God’s offer, these two views both affirm the importance of God’s initiative of grace to invite all sinners to salvation. (from the book Grace For All: Understanding God’s Plan of Salvation).

— Michael R. Cariño

The “More Below”

Grace Enablements

Includes but are not limited to: God’s salvific love for all (John 3:16), God’s manifestation of his power so that all may know he is the Sovereign (Isa 45:21–22) and Creator (Rom 1:18–20), which assures that everyone has opportunity to know about him. Christ paying for all sins (John 1:29), conviction of the Holy Spirit (John 16:7–11), working of the Holy Spirit (Heb 6:1–6), enlightening of the Son (John 1:9), God’s teaching (John 6:45), God opening minds and hearts (Luke 24:45; Acts 16:14; 26:17–18;), and the power of the gospel (Rom 1:16), without such redemptive grace, no one seeks or comes to God (Rom 3:11).

Because of these gracious provisions and workings of God, man can choose to seek and find God (Jer 29:13; Acts 17:11–12). Moreover, no one can come to God without God calling (Acts 2:39), drawing (John 6:44), and that God is drawing all individuals (John 12:32). The same Greek word for draw, helkuō, is used in both verses. “About 115 passages condition salvation on believing alone, and about 35 simply on faith.” Other grace enablements may include providential workings in and through other people, situations, and timing or circumstances that are a part of grace to provide an opportunity for every individual to choose to follow Christ.

These are grace enablements in at least three ways; first, they are provided by God’s grace rather than deserved by mankind; second, the necessary components for each and every individual to have a genuine opportunity to believe unto salvation are provided or restored by God; third, they are provided by God without respect to whether the individual will believe or reject, which response God knew in eternity past.

The offer of the gospel is unconditional, but God sovereignly determined to condition the reception of the offer upon grace-enabled faith; therefore, faith is not reflective of a work or virtue of man, but of God’s sovereign plan of salvation by grace through faith (Eph 2:8). This indicates faith is the means to being regenerated and saved, not the reason for being saved. This truth of Scripture does not imply God is held captive to the choice of man, but rather it demonstrates God in eternity coextensively determined to create man with otherwise choice and provide a genuine offer of salvation, which can be accepted by grace-enabled faith or rejected. Additionally, to fulfill this plan, God is not obligated to disseminate the gospel to people he knows have rejected the light he has given them (Rom 1:18–23) and will also reject the gospel; although he may still send the gospel to them.

Evanescent or Temporal Grace | Deity of Deception

Gavin Ortlund Defends Calvinist Assurance—Does It Work?

  • This is a clip from a longer youtube reaction video to ‪@TruthUnites‬‘ defense of Calvinism. For the full reaction click here:     In this video Tim and Josh (with guest Phil) discuss Gavin Ortlund’s defense of the Calvinist position on assurance and how… some things just don’t add up.

Here is the Calvinist doctrine Temporal Grace, as taught by John Calvin:

temporal faith

“Let no one think that those [who] fall away…were of the predestined, called according to the purpose and truly sons of the promise. For those who appear to live piously may be called sons of God; but since they will eventually live impiously and die in that impiety, God does not call them sons in His foreknowledge. There are sons of God who do not yet appear so to us, but now do so to God; and there are those who, on account of some arrogated or temporal grace, are called so by us, but are not so to God.” (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, p.66, emphasis mine)

And,

“Experience shows that the reprobate are sometimes affected in a way so similar to the elect that even in their own judgment there is no difference between them. Hence, it is not strange, that by the Apostle a taste of heavenly gifts, and by Christ himself a temporary faith is ascribed to them. Not that they truly perceive the power of spiritual grace and the sure light of faith; but the Lord, the better to convict them, and leave them without excuse, instills into their minds such a sense of goodness as can be felt without the Spirit of adoption …. there is a great resemblance and affinity between the elect of God and those who are impressed for a time with a fading faith …. Still it is correctly said, that the reprobate believe God to be propitious to them, inasmuch as they accept the gift of reconciliation, though confusedly and without due discernment; not that they are partakers of the same faith or regeneration with the children of God; but because, under a covering of hypocrisy they seem to have a principle of faith in common with them. Nor do I even deny that God illumines their mind to this extent …. there is nothing inconsistent in this with the fact of his enlightening some with a present sense of grace, which afterwards proves evanescent.” (3.2.11, Institutes, emphasis mine)

Calvin adds: 

“Yet sometimes He also causes those whom he illumines only for a time to partake of it; then He justly forsakes them on account of their ungratefulness and strikes them with even greater blindness.” (Institutes of Christian Religion, 3.24.8, emphasis mine)

Therefore, by “some arrogated or temporal grace,” God “illumines only for a time” the alleged non-elect in order to overcome his Total Inability and thus temporarily think that he was “of the predestined.” Realize that Calvin taught the doctrine of Temporal Grace because he needed to plug a hole in his theology, such as how to explain passages such as Matthew 7:21-23, where the perishing, that is, those who are being condemned to Hell, had performed miraculous things that spiritually dead people are not supposed to be able to do, according to the Calvinistic doctrine of Total Inability. Calvin’s answer for such instances was a temporary grace. 

John Calvin again:

“Whoever has sinned, I shall delete him from the book of life. … But the meaning is simple: those are deleted from the book of life who, considered for a time to be children of God, afterwards depart to their own place, as Peter truly says about Judas (Acts 1:16). But John testifies that these never were of us (1 Jn 2:19), for if they had been, they would not have gone out from us. What John expresses briefly is set forth in more detail by Ezekiel (13:9): They will not be in the secret of My people, nor written in the catalogue of Israel. The same solution applies to Moses and Paul, desiring to be deleted from the book of life (Ex 32:32; Rom 9:3): carried away with the vehemence of their grief, they prefer to perish, if possible, rather than that the Church of God, numerous as it then was, should perish. When Christ bids His disciples rejoice because their names are written in heaven (Lk 10:20), He signifies a perpetual blessing of which they will never be deprived. In a word, Christ clearly and briefly reconciles both meanings, when He says: Every tree which My Father has not planted will be rooted up (Mt 15:13). For even the reprobate take root in appearance, and yet they are not planted by the hand of God.” (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, pp.151-152, emphasis mine) 

John Calvin comments on Hebrews 6:4-6: 

“…God certainly bestows His Spirit of regeneration only on the elect, and that they are distinguished from the reprobate in the fact that they are re-made in His image, and they receive the earnest of the Spirit in the hope of an inheritance to come, and by the same Spirit the Gospel is sealed in their hearts. But I do not see that this is any reason why He should not touch the reprobate with a taste of His grace, or illumine their minds with some glimmerings of His light, or affect them with some sense of His goodness, or to some extent engrave His Word in their hearts. Otherwise where would be that passing faith which Marks mentions (4.17)? Therefore there is some knowledge in the reprobate, which later vanishes away either because it drives its roots less deep than it ought to, or because it is choked and withers away.” (Calvin’s New Testament Commentaries: Hebrews and I and II Peter, p.76, emphasis mine) 

Calvinist, Mark Talbot: 

“Now of course, nothing, that I, nor anyone else, can say can guarantee that anyone will continue to believe. Faith is a gift of God that we cannot produce.”  (Sin and Suffering in Calvin’s World, emphasis mine)

In other words, the fact that you believe today is no guarantee that you will still believe tomorrow, or the next day, or the day after. You can only hope for the best, that your ordained fate is better than others, and that your grace is not a temporary grace, here today and gone tomorrow. Mark Talbot explicitly offers no illusion for your hope of tomorrow. There is nothing that you can do, but hope for the best. It’s completely out of your hands and completely in God’s hands. If you should find yourself an unbeliever tomorrow, your gift has run out.

One member of The Society of Evangelical Arminians: 

“The Calvinist’s assurance is obliterated by the fact that God ordains the illusory salvation of the seemingly-saved folks. This makes them a special sub-set of the damned. In Calvinism, God glorifies Himself by damning the ‘eternally reprobate.’ But the seemingly-saved folks have the unique privilege of ‘glorifying’ God in their earthly lives, by appearing to be saved on their way to Hell. Because God has pre-ordained this, there is nothing any apparently saved person can do. God has ordained the illusion! Of course, this brings up another question: Why is the God (who is Himself truth) ordaining such an illusion? How can God be truthful if He unconditionally pre-ordains illusions? And what kind of God could or would ordain such an illusion for the sake of His glory?” (SEA, emphasis mine)

One member of The Society of Evangelical Arminians: 

“For every person who has ever followed Jesus and then forsaken his name, we have to conclude that God ordained that said person would be eternally damned, but on their way to being damned, God ordains the illusion of redemption in Christ, in that they would come to know Jesus, exhibit kingdom fruit, and then apostatize, all for the sake of divine glory.” (emphasis mine)

​QUESTION: If there is a Temporal Grace, then how do Calvinists know whether this will some day apply to them?

ANSWER: If they stop persevering, then that is how they know, according to Calvinist, Erwin Lutzer. 

Calvinist, Erwin Lutzer: 

“Historic Calvinism stresses the ‘perseverance of the saints,’ namely that true believers never fall away, and if they do, it is not for long. If a person fails to continue in the faith, he is giving proof that he was never saved.” (The Doctrines That Divide, p.231, emphasis mine)

Arminian, Robert Shank: 

“In other words, the only real evidence of election is perseverance, and our only assurance of the certainty of persevering is—to persevere!” (Elect in the Son, p.214, emphasis mine)

Dave Hunt: 

“It is Calvinism that in effect offers salvation by works because it looks to works for assurance of salvation. Biblically, assurance comes by faith in the promise of eternal life in Christ made by ‘God, who cannot lie…before the world began’ (Titus 1:2).” (Debating Calvinism, p.416, emphasis mine)

QUESTION: How do Calvinists know if they are of the Calvinistically elect?

ANSWER: They presume it. …..

Read the rest at:

What is Evanescent Grace? 

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Calvinist Complaints: Arminianism teaches “Conditional Security”)

The Puritan’s Died Fearful

This is why the Puritan’s never slept well in the security of their salvation. Pastor Andy Woods notes this in a truncated presentation:

Although there can be some abuse from Free Grace types, I thought this quick post illuminates Pastor Woods comments:

… You may remember that the Puritans were English Protestants in the 16th and 17th centuries who believed the English Reformation hadn’t gone far enough. They objected to Roman Catholic influences in the Church of England and wanted a purer church with purer doctrine (hence the name “Puritan”). Thus, they separated to form independent or dissenting congregations, with many fleeing to Holland and then to New England looking for religious freedom (at least for themselves, if not for others).

As Grenz explains, the Puritans were concerned with “the quest for certainty of personal election” (Grenz, Revisioning Evangelical Theology, p. 23). They wanted to be sure that they were saved. Why was that? Why did that become an area of particular doubt for them?

Simply put, it was due to the doubts created by their Calvinism:

“This movement developed a new kind of piety in response to anxieties produced by the Calvinist doctrine of election, which in Puritanism made the problem of assurance of salvation existentially central. In contrast to medieval paradigms, Calvinism couched the question of personal salvation in terms of God’s mysterious election. While this theology protected divine sovereignty, it offered no clear criteria whereby a believer could be assured of elect status” (Revisioning, p. 39).

As Grenz explains, many tried to ground their certainty of being elect in outward behavior, which had the opposite effect:

“As helpful as they may be, in the end no sincerity of profession of faith, no degree of faithful attendance at the sacraments, no accumulation of outward evidences of sanctified living could suffice as marks of election” (Grenz, Revisioning, p. 39).

Since looking at outward behavior didn’t give them the assurance they sought, the Puritans looked for inward evidence. Grenz continues:

“the Puritans did devise one definitive mark of election: the inward experience of God’s saving grace. The attendant emphasis on conversion that this move engendered led eventually—at least in devotional literature—to an emphasis on a subjective mark of salvation, the inner, conscious experience of the new birth. Assurance of elect status, therefore, became the product of a believer’s ability to narrate a testimony to a personal conversion experience” (Grenz, Revisioning, p. 39).

This emphasis on having a “new birth” conversion experience became one of the central features of preaching during the Great Awakenings in America. Men like John Wesley (representing Arminians) and George Whitfield (representing Calvinists) emphasized the necessity of conversion and having “the New Birth.” People who had that experience during the revival meetings began to distinguish themselves from people who hadn’t, leading to the question, “Are you really saved?” ….

How Did Assurance Become a Debate?

In discussing this with Grok and Chat-GPT, I got a hybrid breakdown of two sources:

The “P” of TULIP

Calvinism’s doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints does not ultimately provide the confident assurance of salvation that many assume it does. While Calvinism teaches that all of God’s elect will persevere to the end, assurance is often grounded not merely in faith in Christ but in the believer’s ability to demonstrate a lifetime of continuing faith, obedience, and holiness. Since only those who endure to the end are proven to be truly elect, the believer is left asking not simply, “Do I believe in Christ?” but also, “Will my faith ultimately prove genuine?”

According to these critics, this creates a built-in tension within the Calvinist system. If those who fall away are explained as never having been truly saved, then every professing Christian must consider whether his own faith might eventually prove to be temporary or spurious. Rather than resting entirely upon Christ’s finished work and His promises, assurance becomes linked to future perseverance that has not yet occurred.

The concern is reflected in several recurring themes:

  • Assurance is tied to visible perseverance, holiness, and good works rather than resting solely on God’s promises to believers.
  • Numerous Calvinist theologians, including John Calvin, John Murray, A.W. Pink, and others, stress that present faith is not sufficient unless one continues faithfully to the end.
  • Calvin’s doctrine of “temporary faith” or “evanescent grace” introduces the possibility that someone may appear converted for years and still not be among the elect.
  • Apostasy is interpreted as evidence that a person was never truly saved, causing believers to question whether their own faith is genuine.
  • Personal testimonies such as R.C. Sproul’s famous struggle with the question, “What if you are not one of the redeemed?” are cited as examples of the doubt this system can produce.
  • Biblical examples such as David, Peter, Solomon, and the carnal Corinthians are presented as evidence that true believers can fail seriously without proving themselves lost.

For these reasons, critics argue that Calvinism’s doctrine of perseverance functions less as a doctrine of assurance and more as a doctrine of ongoing self-examination. The believer’s focus can shift from Christ’s completed work to the search for evidences of election within his own life. In their view, the result is a form of assurance mixed with uncertainty, because the final proof of genuine salvation is not known until life’s race has been completed.

Thus, both sources conclude that Calvinism’s “P” in TULIP, though intended to safeguard eternal security, ultimately undermines it. Instead of offering believers settled confidence in Christ’s promise of eternal life, it replaces assurance with an ongoing test of endurance, leaving many to wonder whether they possess saving faith at all. True assurance, they contend, is found not in examining whether one has persevered enough, but in trusting Christ’s promise that all who believe in Him have eternal life here and now.

Dr. Leighton Flowers walks through a recent sermon entitled, “The Most Hated Christian Doctrine” by Dr. John MacArthur.

Faith Alone Thru Christ Alone

  • Flowers agrees with MacArthur that humanity is sinful and in need of grace, but argues that Calvinism wrongly transforms human rebellion into God-decreed inability, thereby undermining genuine responsibility, the universal offer of the gospel, and the biblical teaching that people receive life by believing rather than believe because they have already been given life.

The below video is Dr. Leighton Flowers’ response to John MacArthur’s sermon “The Most Hated Christian Doctrine.” While Flowers agrees with MacArthur that humanity is deeply sinful and incapable of saving itself, he argues that MacArthur goes beyond biblical depravity and imports the Calvinistic doctrine of Total Inability—the belief that people are born unable to respond positively to God’s revelation unless first regenerated by irresistible grace. Throughout the discussion, Flowers repeatedly distinguishes between people being unwilling because of rebellion and people being unable because of an innate condition decreed by God. He contends that passages such as John 5, John 6, John 8, Acts 28, and John 12 are addressing hardened, rebellious Israelites who became calloused through persistent rejection of God’s revelation, not describing the universal condition of every person from birth. According to Flowers, Calvinists mistakenly turn judicial hardening passages into proof texts for a doctrine of universal moral inability.

The larger theme of the video is the defense of human responsibility and the sufficiency of God’s revelation. Flowers argues that Calvinism ultimately makes unbelief trace back to God’s decree rather than to the sinner’s own rejection of truth. He repeatedly challenges MacArthur’s claim that unbelievers “cannot believe” by asking whether such inability is self-inflicted through rebellion or divinely determined from birth. Flowers maintains that God’s grace genuinely enables all people to respond to the gospel, that faith is not a meritorious work but a response to God’s gracious initiative, and that salvation remains entirely by grace even though individuals are responsible for whether they trust Christ. The video therefore centers on a fundamental disagreement: Calvinism teaches that people need new life in order to come to Christ, whereas Flowers argues that Scripture consistently presents people as coming to Christ in order to receive life.

Ultimately, as I see it, God is a deceiver in Calvinistic theology.

God the Cause

To bolster my point and not just make blanket statements, Dr. Theodore Zachariades shows that God wills [causes, not just permits] a man to be unfaithful to his wife.

  • God works all things after the Council of His will. Even keeping those kings who want to commit adultery from committing so! And when He wants to, he orders those to commit adultery when he wants to! (Video)

He gets that from John Calvin:

… how foolish and frail is the support of divine justice afforded by the suggestion that evils come to be, not by His will but by His permission. . . . It is a quite frivolous refuge to say that God otiosely permits them, when Scripture shows Him not only willing, but the author of them. . . . Who does not tremble at these judgments with which God works in the hearts of even the wicked whatever He will, rewarding them nonetheless according to desert? Again it is quite clear from the evidence of Scripture that God works in the hearts of men to incline their wills just as he will, whether to good for His mercy’s sake, or to evil according to their merits.

John Calvin, “The Eternal Predestination of God,” 10:11

John Piper:

Ephesians 1:11 goes even further by declaring that God in Christ

“works all things according to the counsel of his will.” Here the Greek word for “works” is energeø, which indicates that God not merely carries all of the universe’s objects and events to their appointed ends but that he actually brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that he himself brings about these evil aspects for his glory (see Ex. 9:13-16; John 9:3) and his people’s good (see Heb. 12:3-11; James 1:2-4). This includes—as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem—God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child: “The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, even the wicked for the day of evil” (Prov. 16:4, NASB ).14 “When times are good, be happy; but when times are bad, consider: God has made the one as well as the other” (Eccl. 7:14, NIV).

John Piper and Justin Taylor, eds., Suffering and the Sovereignty of God (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Books, 2006), 42. (FULLER QUOTE VIA THIS PDF)

More at my: Is God the “devil” Behind Satan? | Sovereign Puppeteer | and | Is Divine Determinism a Different Gospel?

MEMEVANGELIST (Facebook) just posted this doozy of a meme that I want to unpack here. I will post the original and then my updated version with some explanation.

Here is the original.

And here is some explanation for those not picking up what was shared.

The meme is trying to compress several Calvinist debates into one short point, so it’s pretty difficult to follow unless you know the background.

Here’s what it is getting at.

The First Issue: Unconditional Election vs. Assurance

Calvinism teaches:

  • God chose the elect before creation.
  • The elect will certainly be saved.
  • The non-elect will certainly be lost.
  • Election is unconditional (not based on foreseen faith).

The immediate question becomes:

“How do I know I’m one of the elect?”

That question has haunted Calvinism from Calvin onward.

The Second Issue: Evanescent Grace

The meme references “Evanescent Grace.”

This is a concept Calvin discussed. Calvin observed that some people:

  • appear converted,
  • appear faithful,
  • appear regenerated,
  • appear to persevere,

… and yet ultimately fall away.

So Calvin argued that some people experience something that resembles saving grace but is not actually saving grace.

In the Institutes he describes temporary believers who receive impressions of grace that later vanish.

Hence: Evanescent Grace

“Temporary grace.”

“Vanishing grace.”

“A faith that looks real but isn’t.”

The Problem Created

If Calvin is correct, then:

  • strong faith is not proof you’re elect,
  • assurance is not proof you’re elect,
  • perseverance today is not proof you’re elect,

because a person under “evanescent grace” can appear identical to a true believer for years.

So the question becomes:

How can anyone know they are elect before the end?

What the Meme Is Really Asking

The meme’s logic is:

  1. Election is unconditional.
  2. The elect are certainly saved.
  3. Some non-elect people may temporarily look saved.
  4. Therefore certainty of salvation cannot prove election.
  5. Therefore how do I know I am elect?

That is the “question that drives us, Neo.”

Here is my remake:

Again,

  • “If temporary believers can look exactly like true believers, then how is anyone supposed to know they are elect before they die?” — The Assurance Problem in Calvinism 

That’s really what the meme is trying to highlight: not election itself, but the tension between unconditional election and assurance of salvation when Calvin’s doctrine of evanescent grace is taken seriously.

CALVARY DISAPPEARS INTO A COSMIC LOTTERY OF ELECTION.


Juneteenth Celebrates the Grand Ol’ Party’s Proud History

(The “Black National Anthem” is related to this holiday… JUMP TO THAT.) The BABYLON BEE hits the nail on the head! They use sarcasm to show the way to the GOP’s proud history!

WASHINGTON, D.C. – The Senate has unanimously passed a resolution to recognize Juneteenth as a federal holiday, commemorating the glorious day Republicans freed the last of the Democrats’ slaves. 

“We are so proud to show the world how not racist we are by officially recognizing the day the Republicans came charging in to free all our slaves,” said Senate Democrat Chuck Schumer. “Yeah– we Democrats did a little ‘whoopsie’ with that whole slavery thing, but the Republicans corrected it. Thanks, Republicans!” 

During this year’s Juneteenth, the nation will gather to celebrate the American political party that was founded on protecting human rights of people of all skin colors. Democrats around the country will write letters of apology and organize celebrations for the vast network of Christians, Catholics, Quakers, and Republicans who fought and died to end the scourge of slavery in America. 

Congress has also approved the building of a giant elephant statue in D.C. to honor the party responsible for the freeing of slaves from Democrat plantations. 

Biden has confirmed he will organize a celebration at the White House after he lays a wreath on the grave of his best friend Robert Byrd.

FIRST, two 5-minute videos on the Republican’s proud history that led to JUNETEENTH

The Inconvenient Truth
About the Democrat Party

The Inconvenient Truth
About the Republican Party

Last year, President Joe Biden made Juneteenth the newest federal holiday. The day is said to commemorate slaves in Texas hearing the news of Abraham Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation and of their impending freedom on June 19, 1865. Let’s set aside the fact the 13th Amendment wasn’t ratified until December 1865 and was not officially banned in President Biden’s home state of Delaware until 1901. June 19, 2020, was the first time that many Americans heard the word Juneteenth, but it wasn’t in connection with freed slaves from a century and a half ago, it was a part of the protests following the death of George Floyd. Jason believes the connection to Floyd is problematic. “I suspect most people don’t fully comprehend or get Juneteenth. It’s a national holiday because of the death of George Floyd, not because our political leaders had a sincere interest in celebrating the emancipation of slaves in Texas or across the South.” Jason has an alternative to the polarizing, over-politicized holiday. “Fearless” contributor Delano Squires shares his thoughts and discusses the problem with the colors red, green, and black being associated with Juneteenth. “Fearless” soldier Dave Shannon answers the question of whether America will ever accept the holiday as a legitimate one. Plus, Shemeka Michelle has some words for Joy Reid.

The following comes by way of AMERICAN DEFENSE NEWS:

ANALYSIS – While the Left wants to make the heretofore little-known date of June 19, 1965, a new holiday to bash America due to its partial history of slavery, Juneteenth (as it is now known) is not the date slavery ended in the United States.

Or the day the last slaves were freed.

[….]

Juneteenth is actually only a day to celebrate a great Republican president’s historic message freeing the slaves finally reaching the Confederate state of Texas.

That great Republican president was of course, Abraham Lincoln, and his historic message was the Emancipation Proclamation of January 1, 1863.

As the nation approached its third year of bloody civil war, Lincoln’s proclamation declared “that all persons held as slaves” within the rebellious states “are, and henceforward shall be free.”

So, January 1, 1963, could be a great day to celebrate. But despite Lincoln’s’ message, the reality or ending slavery took a while longer.

So, what exactly is Juneteenth about?

Well, this latest federal holiday, created last year when President Biden signed legislation that made Juneteenth a federal holiday in the wake of the Black Lives Matters’ (BLM) 2020 ‘summer of love’ and riots, marks the day residents of Galveston received General Orders No. 3, which freed slaves in Texas.

On June 19, 1865, about two months after the Confederate general Robert E. Lee surrendered at Appomattox, Va., Gordon Granger, a Union general, arrived in Galveston, Texas, the last remaining Confederate state, to inform enslaved black Americans of their freedom and that the Civil War had ended.

That is the day slavery officially ended in the Confederate South.

However, that wasn’t the end of slavery in America. That didn’t come until a full six months later on December 6, 1865.

And that is another great day to celebrate.

That is the date the last American slaves in two remaining Union states (Kentucky which was nominally part of the Union and Biden’s home state of Delaware) were officially freed when the 13th Amendment was ratified and officially proclaimed.

That’s the real date slavery fully ended in America.

So, while Juneteenth has some significance for Texas and the Confederacy, it’s neither the day announcing the end of slavery by a great Republican President on January 1, 1963, nor the date slavery was finally ended in the entire United States on December 6, 1865.

It is the date Lincoln’s freeing of the slaves finally reached Texas though. The last Confederate state standing.

JUNETEENTH is related to the …

BLACK NATIONAL ANTHEM:

BILL MAHER

New Rule: We need to unite as one nation, who come together and sing one anthem. It doesn’t have to be the one we currently use, but it has to be just one.

HODGE TWINS

NFL To Play “BLACK NATIONAL ANTHEM” Before National Anthem


MORE Proud History!


Hat-tip to GATEWAY PUNDIT:

September 22, 1862: Republican President Abraham Lincoln issues preliminary Emancipation Proclamation

January 1, 1863: The Emancipation Proclamation, implementing the Republicans’ Confiscation Act of 1862, takes effect

The Democratic Party continues to Support Slavery.

February 9, 1864: Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton deliver over 100,000 signatures to U.S. Senate supporting Republicans’ plans for constitutional amendment to ban slavery

June 15, 1864: Republican Congress votes equal pay for African-American troops serving in U.S. Army during Civil War

June 28, 1864: Republican majority in Congress repeals Fugitive Slave Acts

October 29, 1864: African-American abolitionist Sojourner Truth says of President Lincoln: “I never was treated by anyone with more kindness and cordiality than were shown to me by that great and good man”

January 31, 1865: 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. House with unanimous Republican support, intense Democrat opposition

Republican Party Support: 100% Democratic Party Support: 23%

March 3, 1865: Republican Congress establishes Freedmen’s Bureau to provide health care, education, and technical assistance to emancipated slaves

April 8, 1865: 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate

Republican support 100% Democrat support 37%

June 19, 1865: On “Juneteenth,” U.S. troops land in Galveston, TX to enforce ban on slavery that had been declared more than two years before by the Emancipation Proclamation

November 22, 1865: Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “black codes,” which institutionalized racial discrimination

1866: The Republican Party passes the Civil Rights Act of 1866 to protect the rights of newly freed slaves

December 6, 1865: Republican Party’s 13th Amendment, banning slavery, is ratified

*1865: The KKK launches as the “Terrorist Arm” of the Democratic Party

February 5, 1866: U.S. Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-PA) introduces legislation, successfully opposed by Democrat President Andrew Johnson, to implement “40 acres and a mule” relief by distributing land to former slaves

April 9, 1866: Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Johnson’s veto; Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of citizenship on African-Americans, becomes law

April 19, 1866: Thousands assemble in Washington, DC to celebrate Republican Party’s abolition of slavery

May 10, 1866: U.S. House passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens; 100% of Democrats vote no

June 8, 1866: U.S. Senate passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens; 94% of Republicans vote yes and 100% of Democrats vote no

July 16, 1866: Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of Freedman’s Bureau Act, which protected former slaves from “black codes” denying their rights

July 28, 1866: Republican Congress authorizes formation of the Buffalo Soldiers, two regiments of African-American cavalrymen

July 30, 1866: Democrat-controlled City of New Orleans orders police to storm racially-integrated Republican meeting; raid kills 40 and wounds more than 150

January 8, 1867: Republicans override Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of law granting voting rights to African-Americans in D.C.

July 19, 1867: Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of legislation protecting voting rights of African-Americans

March 30, 1868: Republicans begin impeachment trial of Democrat President Andrew Johnson, who declared: “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government of white men”

May 20, 1868: Republican National Convention marks debut of African-American politicians on national stage; two – Pinckney Pinchback and James Harris – attend as delegates, and several serve as presidential electors

1868 (July 9): 14th Amendment passes and recognizes newly freed slaves as U.S. Citizens

Republican Party Support: 94% Democratic Party Support: 0%

September 3, 1868: 25 African-Americans in Georgia legislature, all Republicans, expelled by Democrat majority; later reinstated by Republican Congress

September 12, 1868: Civil rights activist Tunis Campbell and all other African-Americans in Georgia Senate, every one a Republican, expelled by Democrat majority; would later be reinstated by Republican Congress

September 28, 1868: Democrats in Opelousas, Louisiana murder nearly 300 African-Americans who tried to prevent an assault against a Republican newspaper editor

October 7, 1868: Republicans denounce Democratic Party’s national campaign theme: “This is a white man’s country: Let white men rule”

October 22, 1868: While campaigning for re-election, Republican U.S. Rep. James Hinds (R-AR) is assassinated by Democrat terrorists who organized as the Ku Klux Klan

November 3, 1868: Republican Ulysses Grant defeats Democrat Horatio Seymour in presidential election; Seymour had denounced Emancipation Proclamation

December 10, 1869: Republican Gov. John Campbell of Wyoming Territory signs FIRST-in-nation law granting women right to vote and to hold public office

February 3, 1870: The US House ratifies the 15th Amendment granting voting rights to all Americans regardless of race

Republican support: 97% Democrat support: 3%

February 25, 1870: Hiram Rhodes Revels becomes the first Black seated in the US Senate, becoming the First Black in Congress and the first Black Senator.

May 19, 1870: African American John Langston, law professor and future Republican Congressman from Virginia, delivers influential speech supporting President Ulysses Grant’s civil rights policies

May 31, 1870: President U.S. Grant signs Republicans’ Enforcement Act, providing stiff penalties for depriving any American’s civil rights

June 22, 1870: Republican Congress creates U.S. Department of Justice, to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the South

September 6, 1870: Women vote in Wyoming, in FIRST election after women’s suffrage signed into law by Republican Gov. John Campbell

December 12, 1870: Republican Joseph Hayne Rainey becomes the first Black duly elected by the people and the first Black in the US House of Representatives

In 1870 and 1871, along with Revels (R-Miss) and Rainey (R-SC), other Blacks were elected to Congress from Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina and Virginia – all Republicans.

A Black Democrat Senator didn’t show up on Capitol Hill until 1993. The first Black Congressman was not elected until 1935.

February 28, 1871: Republican Congress passes Enforcement Act providing federal protection for African-American voters

March 22, 1871: Spartansburg Republican newspaper denounces Ku Klux Klan campaign to eradicate the Republican Party in South Carolina

April 20, 1871: Republican Congress enacts the (anti) Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans

*** You get the picture. MORE AT FREE REPUBLIC

PART 1 – Revealing the Truth About The Democratic Party!!

PART 2 – Revealing the Truth about the Democratic Party Part 2: The Parties Switched

 

God Even Determines Your Prayers | Wayne Grudem & Calvinism

Does the way Jesus teaches prayer fit more naturally with a worldview in which our requests genuinely matter, or with a worldview in which every request and every answer was already unalterably fixed before creation? If every prayer and every answer has already been exhaustively determined, what purpose is served by Jesus spending so much time teaching us how to pray?

The entire SOTERIOLOGY 101 Podcast can be heard HERE. Sot 101’s description:

  • Again we address the impractical implications of Calvinism. This time by unpacking Wayne Grudem’s teaching about the purpose and function of prayer. If God has determined all things then why pray? Does God really respond to us when we pray or is that just an illusion? Let’s dive in.

QUESTIONER – SANDY:

You were so persuasive, Wayne, a few weeks ago that I have become a happy evangelical Calvinist. And so in my mind, this raises the issue of God’s sovereignty. And I wonder if in that illustration on the board, I’m looking at that and I am visually putting a sort of umbrella of God’s transcendent, eternal, immutable sovereignty over all of that. So that, because otherwise, and maybe it’s just my split pea-sized brain not able to understand what you’re saying, but otherwise it sounds like God is vacillating in His intent and plans in response to whether or not we pray. And I doubt that that’s what you’re saying. So tell me now, as a fellow happy, evangelical Calvinist, how God’s transcendent, eternal, immutable sovereignty fits in all.

GRUDEM:

I think God planned before the foundation of the world, I think God planned that Moses would pray and that he would answer. But Moses didn’t know that. Okay? What Moses knew is he’s supposed to pray. I think God planned before the foundation of the world that Amos would pray and that God would answer. But it was still real. I mean, this intercession of Moses is still real. And if you do not have, because you do not ask, that’s true. And asking you will receive. Knock and it will be open. God didn’t set up the world to work in some way that we have to pray for Him to grant things, but He did. And then, yes. In his secret, unchangeable, eternal plan, yes, I think when I look back on all of it, I’ll say that he planned it, but I don’t know that. What I do know is if I pray, he answers, and if I don’t, he won’t.

The central argument can be summarized as:

If God unconditionally decreed both the prayer and the answer, then the prayer cannot be the real cause of the answer in the ordinary sense.

That’s very close to the objection you heard raised against Grudem.

The Moses Problem (Exodus 32)

The commentator makes an interesting point: Grudem says Moses didn’t know the eternal decree. But then Moses’ experience of prayer appears to be more realistic than the Calvinist explanation.

Moses believed:

  • God announced judgment.
  • Moses interceded.
  • God relented.

Exodus presents the narrative exactly that way. The Calvinist explanation becomes:

  • God decreed the announcement.
  • God decreed the intercession.
  • God decreed the relenting.

The question then becomes:

Is the biblical narrative showing what really happened, or is it only describing how it appeared from Moses’ perspective?

Where the Lord’s Prayer Comes In

This is where Calvinists prayer understanding connect:

“Give us this day our daily bread.”

On Grudem’s model:

  • God eternally decreed whether you receive daily bread.
  • God eternally decreed whether you pray for daily bread.
  • God eternally decreed the answer.

The Calvinist answer is:

God ordained prayer as the means.

The non-Calvinist answer is:

The language sounds like a genuine petition affecting a genuinely contingent outcome.

The Lord’s Prayer assumes that God is:

  • Listening.
  • Caring.
  • Responding.
  • Providing.
  • Forgiving.
  • Leading.
  • Delivering.

The entire prayer is relational.

Does the prayer read more naturally as a conversation with a Father who genuinely responds to His children, or as participation in a script whose every line was already fixed before the world began?

Why is the entire prayer structured around requests if requests have no bearing on what occurs? Why teach believers to ask for forgiveness if the granting of forgiveness is already fixed regardless of the request?


THE LORD’S PRAYER


Our Father in heaven,

May Your name be hallowed by those whom You have eternally decreed to hallow it.

May Your kingdom come exactly as You have immutably ordained from before the foundation of the world.

May Your will be done, because it cannot possibly be otherwise.

Give us this day the bread You have already decreed we will receive whether through our asking or not, though You have also decreed that we would ask for it.

Forgive us our debts, because You have already determined from eternity which debts would be forgiven and which sinners would remain under condemnation.

As we forgive our debtors according to the measure of sanctification You have irresistibly produced within us.

Lead us not into the temptations You have eternally ordained for our good and Your glory, though we acknowledge that those temptations cannot fail to occur if You have decreed them.

But deliver us from the evil You have likewise ordained to accomplish Your sovereign purposes.

For Yours is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, because all things without exception have been decreed by You and come to pass exactly as ordained.

Amen, which You also decreed before the foundation of the world.

GRAPHICS to further elucidate:

Prayer & Calvinism with Ronnie Rogers

Pastor Ronnie Rogers is back with us today to discuss his new book “IF ONLY YOU WOULD ASK: Praying God’s Conditional Promises” This book is a MUST READ for anyone curious, confused, or convinced about Calvinism’s (mistaken) determinism.

 

 

Double Predestination | Geoffrey D. Robinson

This is an excerpt from Geoffrey D. Robinson’s book, Saved by Grace Through Faith or Saved by Decree? A Biblical and Theological Critique of Calvinist Soteriology (Eugene, OR: Wipf and Stock, 2022), pages 171-184.

g) Double Predestination?

From within a Calvinistic perspective, Sproul is surely correct when he says: “Given that the Bible teaches both election and particularism, we cannot avoid the subject of double predestination. The question then is not if predestination is double, but how it is double.”205

Double predestination, a term mainly relevant to those committed to Calvinism, is the term used by theologians to describe the nature of God’s predestinating work of electing some for salvation and damning the rest. There are two main ways this choosing of God is considered to work. The first, held by consistent Calvinists and mainly found in earlier (post-Reformation) Calvinistic writers, views God as positively choosing those whom he unconditionally elects for salvation and positively choosing those whom he selects for hell. Merely for convenience I will call this form of predestination “symmetric predestination.” In the other form of this doctrine, God positively chooses unconditionally the elect for salvation and the rest he leaves in their sin to take the consequences of unforgiven sin, hell. Again, for convenience, I will call this “asymmetric predestination.”206

John Calvin is a good example of symmetric predestination:

By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly, as each has been created for one or the other of these ends, we say that he has been predestined to life or to death.207

The Westminster Confession of 1646 likewise strongly affirms symmetric predestination: “By the decree of God, for the manifestation of his glory, some men and angels are predestinated unto everlasting life; and others foreordained to everlasting death.”208 In more recent times Wright is an example of a proponent of symmetric predestination: “God cannot logically choose some for salvation without at the same time choosing to reject others, even though they are no more sinful. This, of course, is the doctrine of reprobation taught today by all consistent Calvinists.”209 For Lorraine Boettner, “the doctrine of absolute Predestination logically holds that some are foreordained to death as surely as others are foreordained to life. . . . We believe that from all eternity God has intended to leave some of Adam’s posterity in their sins, and that the decisive factor in the life of each is to be found only in God’s will.”210

Much more common among contemporary Calvinists is asymmetric predestination. For such thinkers, symmetric predestination jeopardizes God’s goodness. Sproul is typical: “Reprobation is the flip side of election, the dark side of the matter that raises many concerns. It is the doctrine of reprobation that has prompted the label of `horrible decree: It is one thing to speak of God’s gracious predestination to election, but quite another to speak of God’s decreeing from all eternity that certain unfortunate people are destined for damnation.”211 Grudem too expresses the same reservations about symmetric predestination:

In many ways the doctrine of reprobation is the most difficult of all the teachings of Scripture for us to think about and to accept, because it deals with such horrible and eternal consequences for human beings made in the image of God. The love that God gives us for our fellow human beings and the love that he commands us to have toward our neighbor cause us to recoil against this doctrine, and it is right that we feel such dread in contemplating it.212

Grudem helpfully summarizes the asymmetric predestination position when he says that “reprobation is the sovereign decision of God before creation to pass over some persons, in sorrow deciding not to save them, and to punish them for their sins, and thereby to manifest his justice.”213 While God positively decides who will be saved, he only passes over the rest (the reprobate) who are consequently punished for their sins. Horton echoes the same logic: “God only has to leave us to our own devices in the case of reprobation, but it requires the greatest works of the triune God to save the elect.”214 Bruce Ware argues similarly: “In brief, reprobation is conditional, i.e., based on what sinners have done and deserve, whereas election is unconditional, i.e., based on the unmerited grace and favor of God despite what sinners have done and deserve. . . . None of what has been argued above militates against the fact that God has ordained both evil and good, both sin and obedience, both reprobation and election.”215

Before critiquing the Calvinist’s notion of symmetric predestination and asymmetric predestination, I want to briefly examine a few scriptures appealed to by Calvinists to justify the idea of God predestinating the reprobate.

Proverbs 16:4

“The Lord has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.”

Berkhof in his Systematic Theology cites this verse to justify the all-comprehensiveness of God’s sovereign decree: “The decree includes whatsoever comes to pass in the world . . . whether it be good or evil” and includes the wicked acts of men.216 Superficially, it is easy to see why appeal is made to Prov 16:4 for does it not say that God’s purpose includes the wicked for a day of evil? However, as always, context and genre must be brought to bear to truly understand this (and any other) verse. The first thing to notice is that the saying is a proverb which, by definition, expresses a general truth. And what is the general truth being expressed in this verse (and the preceding verses)? It is that, despite what may appear on the surface, ultimately it is God who rules. In this case, God’s rulership (purpose) includes the punishment of evildoers in the end. “The general meaning is that there are ultimately no loose ends in God’s world: everything will be put to some use and matched with its proper fate. It does not mean that God is the author of evil: James 1:13,17).”217 A good historical example of this proverb is the punishment of Babylon for their iniquity (Jer 25:12) after the king of Babylon’s wickedness has been used by God to punish disobedient Judah (Jer 25:7-9).

Isaiah 45:7

“The One forming light and creating darkness, causing well-being and creating calamity; I am the Lord who does all these.”

Grudem comments on this verse, “Isaiah 45:7, which speaks of God `creating evil, does not say that God himself does evil, but should be understood to mean that God ordained that evil would come about through the willing choices of his creature.”218 However the evil comes about, according to Grudem, God ordains the evil; it must therefore happen because God wills it to happen.

The Hebrew word that Grudem translates as evil has, like all words, a range of meanings.219 The Hebrew Lexicon of Brown et al., for example, cites evil, distress, misery, injury, calamity, adversity.220 In its context this verse underscores God’s sovereignty to confirm his ability to call the Persian King Cyrus (Isa 45:1-4) to effect God’s purpose for ancient exilic Israel, that they be granted permission to return to Jerusalem. The phrase causing well-being and creating calamity is typically assumed by Calvinistic scholars to express God’s all-determining decretal will whereby all that happens in the universe is an outworking of God’s ordaining before the creation of the world—in Grudem’s words, “God ordained that it [the evil] would come about, both in general terms and in specific details.”221 Yet there is nothing in the verse itself that would indicate that such divine actions are the result or consequence of some preordained, detailed plan. The text merely says that God does these things—how or why he does it is not specified. Is there any portion of Scripture that might indicate why God might choose to act in such a way as to bring “calamity”? Yes. The covenant blessings and curses that comprise a very important part of the Mosaic covenant (Lev 26, Deut 28) clearly indicate that God will bring blessings (“causing well-being”) for covenant loyalty by Israel, and God will bring disaster in the form of judgments (“creating calamity”) for covenant disloyalty. Far from the outworking of an unconditional overarching decree that ordains all that unfolds in history, Isa 45:7 is a reminder of what God can do, and has done, in response to human actions and choices. This is simply the kind of God he is; he reacts negatively to human sin whether that sin be the idolatry of ancient Israel, or the wickedness of people who suppress the truth in unrighteousness (Rom 1:18).

Romans 9:18

“So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires.”

Earlier in this chapter when discussing the significance of Rom 9:10-16, we concluded that yes, God does choose unconditionally—but his choosing is not for salvation but for service. God has the right to choose which individuals to call and use in the service of his redemptive purposes for the world. Furthermore, Paul’s argument concerning God’s right to choose how salvation would be applied to the Jews (by grace, not ethnicity [vv. 6-81), and who will play key roles in his redemptive purposes (Isaac, Jacob, Pharaoh [vv. 7-171), extends all the way down to v. 18. Consequently, this verse is to be understood within a context of election to service, not salvation. Calvinists are quite right to see God exercise his sovereign right to choose, but they are mistaken in seeing the choosing in terms of God’s selecting some individuals for salvation and selecting (either directly or indirectly) some individuals for perdition.222

A word about the words mercy and hardens. These words are usually, especially by Calvinists, understood in salvific terms. God has saving mercy on some (the elect) and he hardens others (the reprobate) so that they cannot believe or are left in their unbelief. However, as always, the meaning assigned words is governed by the context,223 and as we have seen, the context here has to do with God’s choosing some for a task of service and rejecting others for that task. “‘Having mercy’ in this context refers not to saving mercy but to the favor of being chosen by God to play some role in the working out of his redemptive purposes (see v. 15). Whether one is conscious of being chosen and used is irrelevant; even whether one is saved or not is irrelevant (see Isa 45:4-5 concerning Cyrus).”224 Similarly with the hardening: because God wanted to use Pharaoh in a negative way, to impede Israel’s exodus from Egypt, God hardened his heart for that specific purpose (v. 17). The hardening of v. 18 expresses God’s providential working at a crucial point in redemptive history, as well as God’s judgment on an individual’s persistent rebellious unbelief. In short, this verse (Rom 9:18) cannot be used to support the Calvinist’s contention regarding God’s unconditional choosing of the elect for salvation, and the reprobate for damnation.

Romans 9:21

“Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use?”

Calvinists tend to see Rom 9:7-29 as a whole, as Paul sustaining his explanation for the implied question behind Rom 9:1-5, namely, why aren’t the Jews being saved in (supposed) fulfillment of Old Testament promises? The Calvinist answer is that God has the right whom to save and whom to not save. Romans 9:21 summarizes that contention. Michael Horton is typical of this perspective: In “Romans 9, God is said to be free to choose and to reject, to save and to harden, `to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use (Rom 9:21):” 225

A key to understanding Rom 9:21 is Rom 9:6: “But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For they are not all Israel who are descended from Israel.” Fundamental to Paul’s concern for his lost ethnic brethren (fellow Jews) is the idea of two Israels-physical Israel (those descended from Israel/Jacob) and spiritual or true Israel. In vv. 7-18 the focus has been on God’s dealings with physical Israel, his calling the nation to a work of service in the redemptive outworking of God’s salvific purposes for the world. But now in vv. 19-29 the focus shifts to true Israel, those within physical Israel (the one lump of v. 21) who will actually enjoy salvation and be “for honorable use” for God (v. 21), and also be “vessels of mercy” (v. 23). This latter group have always been a remnant within physical Israel (v. 27-29).

As Cottrell notes, “A major part of this section [vv. 19-29] is the fact that the calling and saving of spiritual Israel was all along a part of the very purpose for the existence of ethnic Israel. In other words, it has always been God’s sovereign purpose to distinguish between the two Israels.”226 Bearing this in mind, we can paraphrase and expand the meaning of Rom 9:21 as: “Does not God have a right over the nation of Israel, to make from within the one nation one group that would enjoy salvation and another group that would function as the vehicle of God’s redemptive purposes?” The fact of the two groups is established in vv. 19-29, but the basis upon which God distinguishes between the two is discussed in 9:3o-10:21. The fact of the two groups lies in God’s unconditional intent to call a saved people from within the ethnic nation; the basis of the saved people’s existence is conditional upon an exercise of faith in God. It is clear from the above analysis that Rom 9:21 does not support the idea that God determines whoever will be personally saved or lost.

1 Peter 2:7—8

“This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve, `The stone which the builders rejected, this became the very corner stone,’ and, a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed.”

Grudem, in typical Calvinistic fashion, commenting on the last clause, says: “Amazing as it may seem, even the stumbling and disobedience of unbelievers have been destined by God.”227 John Piper likewise makes it clear that he understands v. 8 to mean that God (pre)destined the unbelievers to not obey the word.228

In order to understand Peter’s teaching here, it is necessary to capture the flow of thought in the larger context. In the passage (1 Pet 2:4-1o) Peter identifies two groups of people. On the one hand are the Christians he is writing to and “who believe” and, on the other hand, “those who disbelieve” (v. 7). Here, as throughout the New Testament, belief in Christ and in God’s word is crucial in demarking the two classes of people. These two groups hold two very different attitudes to Christ. For believers Christ is “a living stone” (v. 4) who is “precious in the sight of God” (v. 4) and recognize Christ as “a precious cornerstone” (v. 6). For unbelievers, however, Christ is “a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense” (v. 8a). The attitude toward Christ is markedly different for the two groups. The believers are “coming to Him as to a living stone” (v. 4) and glory in Christ’s preciousness (vv. 4, 6, 7); in strong contrast, unbelievers reject Christ (vv. 4, 7). As a consequence of the two sharply differing attitudes and approaches to Christ, God’s cornerstone, the two groups experience two sharply contrasting outcomes. Believers are being built up as a spiritual house, offer spiritual sacrifices to God (v. 5), and are not ultimately disappointed (v. 6b). Unbelievers, because of their disobedience to the word (gospel) by contrast, stumble over Christ who, for them, has become “a stone of stumbling and a rock of offense” (v. 8a).

By way of preliminary observation, we may note that even though the Greek does not explicitly make the causal connection between the disobedience of the unbelievers and their stumbling in v. 8 (“they stumble because they are disobedient”) most translators recognize the implied connection and accordingly include it in their translation of v. 8.229 Furthermore, the word doom in the NASB translation of v. 8 above is not in the Greek.230 Unfortunately, the grammatical construction of the phrase “to this they were also appointed” does not resolve the question as to what the disbelievers were appointed.

Because of the textual ambiguity of 1 Peter 2:8, grammatically the passage may be construed either as supporting, or as not supporting, the doctrine of positive reprobation. The matter hinges on the reference assumed for the phrase “to which they were appointed.” Was the appointing to disobedience, or to both stumbling and disobedience, or to stumbling as the consequence of disobedience? All three assumptions have their advocates, and all are admissible grammatically.231

One way to resolve the issue is to examine elsewhere within Peter’s letter whether he hints at God having appointed or destined the unbelief itself. This is easy to answer: nowhere within the letter is such divine action stated.232 On the other hand, are there indications within the rest of the letter that God reacts negatively against unbelief and evil? The answer to this is also clear; there are at least four other passages where God is said to react negatively toward unbelievers. In 1 Pet 3:12 God is said to set his face “against those who do evil.” In 4:5, Peter reminds his readers that the sinful practices of the Gentiles will be held accountable to God on the day of judgment. In 4:18, it is implied that severe judgment awaits “the godless man and the sinner.” Finally, in 5:5, Peter tells his readers that believers are to clothe themselves with humility because “God is opposed to the proud.” So, we may conclude, on the basis of Peter’s teaching in other parts of his letter, that the stumbling referred to in v. 8 is a consequence of the unbeliever’s disobedience toward Christ and the gospel. In short, Yor those who disbelieve . . . the very cornerstone [Christ, has become] . . . a stone of stumbling” (vv. 7, 8).

Finally, the broader biblical witness likewise testifies against God’s being responsible for the soteriological status of the reprobate. Just one scripture will make the point: 1 Tim 2:4: God “desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.” As Shank comments:

[The fact the] immediate context militates against any assumption of support from i Peter 2:8 for the doctrine of unconditional reprobation is augmented by an evidence that must be regarded as finally decisive: such a doctrine radically contradicts the many explicit, categorical affirmations of Scripture of God’s desire and provision for the salvation of all men. The great body of “universal” passages dictates the rejection of all interpretations (and translations) of 1 Peter 2:8 which, though grammatically allowable, are inadmissible in the light of the context of the whole body of the Holy Scriptures. Any assumption that the appointing was to disobedience or to disobedience and stumbling is in radical contradiction of 1 Timothy 4:10 and its many cognates.233

Joel Green captures the essence of the passage well when he says that “faith and unfaith are matters of human volition, but the consequences of faith and unfaith have been preset.”234

Jude 4

“For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.”

Grudem appeals to this verse to justify a doctrine of reprobation: “It is something that we would not want to believe, and would not believe, unless Scripture clearly taught it.”235 Likewise Berkhof appeals to Jude 4 to justify his contention that “reprobation is so clearly taught in Scripture as the opposite of election that we cannot regard it as something purely negative:’ as something only resulting from man’s sin. 236

Since Jude makes reference in this verse to “this condemnation,” but has not yet spoken of any judgment or condemnation,237 the reference must be to condemnations to be described in the following verses. The verb translated as “marked out” in the NASB has as its root form προγράφω (prographō) — literally, “written before.” The NIV translates the word as “written about” Jude’s point is that the condemnation of the ungodly men who were posing a threat to the church(es) to whom Jude was writing was foretold or prophesied. S. L. Bloomfield, cited by Robert Shank, summarizes the point clearly: “The expression [marked out beforehand for this condemnation] does not imply any predestination of the persons, but merely imports that they were long since foretold, and thereby designated, as persons who should suffer.”238 Baukham concurs: “Just such people, Jude claims, were long ago described in prophecy, which also predicted their condemnation by God.”239

Is there justification in Jude’s letter that would reinforce this understanding of v. 4, i.e., the understanding that it is not certain individuals unconditionally elected for damnation as Calvinists hold, but rather a specific type of persons—ungodly persons—to whom God reacts in condemnation as was foretold in previous times? Yes, there is. In the immediately following three verses Jude gives three examples of ungodliness incurring divine judgment: the people of Israel in the wilderness were destroyed for their unbelief (v. 5); angels who strayed from their assigned abodes God has kept in darkness (v. 6); the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah who indulged in immorality God punished with fire (v. 7).

Especially significant is the midrash from Enoch in vv. 14-15:240 “It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, `Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”‘

This is probably a reference to the judgment to be meted out against the ungodly when Christ returns at the end of the age. “The message of Jude’s whole midrash [is] that those who indulge in ungodly conduct, as the false teachers do, are those on whom judgment will fall.”241 The notion of any form of predestinarian language or thought is quite absent from this letter. Jude is simply concerned for the fidelity of his reader’s faith (v. 3) and that they be warned about, and be on guard against, ungodly teachers who would bring true Christians into spiritual harm. Such, says Jude, will one day receive a just condemnation, and in any case were anticipated by earlier spokesmen for God.

By way of reminder, we are considering the doctrine of double predestination, the belief that God predestines some (the elect) to salvation and the rest (the reprobate) to hell. We noted at the beginning of this study that there are two forms in which this double predestination is said to occur. The first, the stronger version, I have called symmetric predestination because there is a fundamental symmetry between God’s positively choosing those whom he saves and those whom he likewise chooses to damn. The weaker form I have labeled asymmetric predestination because, while God positively chooses those whom he saves, he merely bypasses the rest in their sins; the latter group are then considered to be justly condemned for their sins. We then considered six key scriptures often appealed to by Calvinists to justify the idea of reprobation, and have shown how, when due consideration is given to the literary and historical contexts in which these verses sit, there is no basis for reaching the Calvinist’s conclusions; there is no such thing as reprobation in any form. I want now to go on to critique the entire notion of symmetric predestination.

Proponents of symmetric predestination are at least consistent with the Calvinistic view of particular sovereignty and “the eternal decree of God, by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man.”242 Wright, commenting on the ninth-century monk Gottschalk’s view on this topic, says, “God cannot logically choose some for salvation without at the same time choosing to reject others. . . . This, of course, is the doctrine of reprobation taught today by all consistent Calvinists.”243 However, such consistency comes at a price—”the dark side of the matter that raises many concerns.”244 Sproul observes that “it is one thing to speak of God’s gracious predestination to election, but quite another to speak of God’s decreeing from all eternity that certain unfortunate people are destined for damnation.”245

Calvin himself acknowledged the idea of symmetric predestination as “dreadful,”246 and Grudem feels that the doctrine of reprobation “deals with such horrible and eternal consequences for human beings made in the image of God” that it causes us “to recoil against this doctrine, and that it is right that we feel such dread in contemplating it. It is something that we would not want to believe . . . [and] causes us to tremble in horror as we think of it.”247 But why would such a doctrine, if truly biblical, cause us to react in this way? How can such a sentiment be maintained in the light of such scriptures as Ps 119:24: “Your testimonies also are my delight; they are my counselors.” Similarly, Ps 119:47-48: “I shall delight in Your commandments, which I love. And I shall lift up my hands to Your commandments, which I love.” Surely, the revelation of God is something that should cause us great delight and joy—not dread and horror!

More seriously, what sort of God is the God who determines the eternal destinies of his human creation by means of symmetric predestination? Recall that according to symmetric predestination God actively had in mind men and women who would never, and indeed could never, find salvation because they were predestined by God before the foundation of the world to be consigned to hell. Furthermore, such a predestination is supposedly for the glory of God.248 How, exactly, is God glorified in unconditionally consigning people to hell? Nowhere in Scripture is God said to be glorified for acting unilaterally and unconditionally in such an evil manner.249 On the contrary, God is glorified when his goodness, wisdom, kindness, and so on is recognized and appreciated. Psalm 86:9-13 illustrates the point:

All nations whom You have made shall come and worship before You, O Lord, And they shall glorify Your name. For You are great and do wondrous deeds; You alone are God. Teach me Your way, O Lord; I will walk in Your truth; Unite my heart to fear Your name. I will give thanks to You, O Lord my God, with all my heart, And will glorify Your name forever. For Your lovingkindness toward me is great, And You have delivered my soul from the depths of Sheol.

Once again, with a doctrine of symmetric predestination, it is difficult to see how God cannot be charged with being the author of evil and sin, given that it is evil and sinful to positively seek the harm of any individual. Grudem is quite right when he says that “the love that God gives us for our fellow human beings and the love that he commands us to have towards our neighbor cause us to recoil against this doctrine.”250 Can it really be the case that what God expects us to do (love our neighbor) he himself is not bound by? We are to love our neighbor, but God can damn them! In sum, while the doctrine of symmetric predestination is quite consistent with Calvinism’s view of divine sovereignty it is quite inconsistent with God’s attributes of love, justice, righteousness, and goodness clearly revealed on virtually every page of Scripture.

If symmetric predestination is consistent with Calvinism’s “eternal plans of God, before the creation of the world, to bring about everything that happens:’ as Grudem states, then asymmetric predestination, the reprobate being those whom God merely bypasses, is quite inconsistent with this view of the outworking of the predestinarian decrees. The question of consistency is not insignificant to my mind. It is incoherent to say on the one hand x is all black and then also x is all white, in other words, to say God decrees everything to the minutest extent and also that men are accountable for their own sin-as though the latter were somehow independent of God’s decree. Within Calvinistic thought, nothing, absolutely nothing, acts or wills independently of what God has decreed and determined will be the case. And so “Calvinists who accept unconditional election and at the same time propose to reject unconditional reprobation are radically inconsistent.”251 Consistency may not be a sufficient condition for a successful argument, but it is most certainly a necessary condition for a coherent argument.252

Crucial to the asymmetric predestination view is the idea of permission, God permitting men to suffer the consequences of their own sin and so, in a sense, reprobate themselves. The appeal of this notion of reprobation to modern Calvinists is quite apparent; it just seems too harsh to believe that God positively chooses some to be predestined for hell.253 It sounds much more reasonable to say God just lets people take the consequences for their own sin which is, of course, condemnation. Calvin roundly rejects this attempt to get God off the hook. Some “recur to the distinction between will and permission, the object being to prove that the wicked perish only by way of permission, but not by the will of God. . . . Nor indeed is there any probability in the thing itself—viz., that man brought death upon himself, merely by the permission, and not by the ordination of God; as if God had not determined what he wished the condition of the chief of his creatures to be.”254 Calvin is right, within a Calvinistic worldview there is no independent will of man operating apart from God’s ordaining, determining, and decreeing. There is nothing to “permit” as though man’s actions and choices were independent of God’s determination. Intrinsic to the notion of permission with respect to symmetric predestination is the idea that God determines some things (who would comprise the elect), and the rest God merely “bypasses” to suffer the consequences of their own choices and actions. In this scenario “reprobation is conditional, i.e., based on what sinners have done and deserve, whereas [Calvinistic] election is unconditional, i.e., based on the unmerited grace and favor of God despite what sinners have done and deserve.”255 But note that “what sinners have done and deserve” is itself ordained by God: “God has ordained both evil and good, both sin and obedience, both reprobation and election.”256 Despite protestations from Calvinists, this way of thinking is simply incoherent, because actually contradictory. Roger Olson, in his thorough discussion of reprobation and in his assessment of Lorain Boettner’s view, echoes my own sentiment above:

Like all Calvinists I am aware of, Boettner claims that the reprobate deserve their punishment (eternal suffering in hell) because they “voluntarily chose to sin.” Ultimately, he leaves this apparent contradiction in the realm of mystery: “Predestination [including reprobation] and free agency are the twin pillars of a great temple, and they meet above the clouds where the human gaze cannot penetrate:’ It seems, however, that this mystery is a blatant contradiction.257

A final point concerning the asymmetric predestination version of predestination concerns its logical status. The notion that God merely bypasses the non-elect and permits them to suffer the consequences of their own sins does not really achieve what the Calvinist hopes it will, namely distance God from direct responsibility for assigning the reprobate to their fate. This is because, within a given pool of humanity, whoever is designated by God to be chosen for salvation is also thereby effectively identified and designated by God to be the non-elect (the reprobate). To determine who the elect will be is to determine who the non-elect will be. George Bryson expresses this logical situation in this way: “Even though most Calvinists will say that the unelect are damned because they deserved to be, the logical implication of Calvinism says otherwise. Since the unelect were not elected to be saved, they were never meant to be regenerated, to believe, to be saved, or to be anything other than totally depraved.”258

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Geoffrey D. Robinson, Saved by Grace Through Faith or Saved by Decree? A Biblical and Theological Critique of Calvinist Soteriology (Eugene, OR: Wipf and Stock, 2022), 171-184.

NOTES

  1. Sproul, Reformed Theology, 158, emphasis original.
  2. The technical term used to describe those who are not part of the elect is “reprobate:’ And the technical term used to describe symmetric predestination is “preterition:’
  3. Calvin, Institutes, 3.21.5. Several other passages could be cited, as for example this one in 3.21.7: “God by his eternal and immutable counsel determined once for all those whom it was his pleasure one day to admit to salvation and those whom, on the other hand, it was his pleasure to doom to destruction:’
  4. Westminster Confession of Faith, 33.
  5. Wright, No Place for Sovereignty, 21. Notice his use of the term “consistent” here; in this respect I agree with him fully.
  6. Boettner, “Reformed Doctrine of Predestination:’ 96.
  7. Sproul, Reformed Theology, 157.
  8. Grudem, Systematic Theology, 685. For this reason, Grudem feels that “double predestination is not a helpful term because it gives the impression that both election and reprobation are carried out in the same way by God and have no essential differences between them, which is certainly not true:’ Grudem, Systematic Theology, 670.
  9. Grudem, Systematic Theology, 685.
  10. Horton, For Calvinism, 58.
  11. Ware, “Divine Election,” S4, emphasis original.
  12. Berkhof, Systematic Theology, 105.
  13. Kidner, Proverbs, 118.
  14. Grudem, Systematic Theology, 328, emphasis original.
  15. The NASB translates the word as calamity, the NIV as disaster, the KJV as evil.
  16. Brown, Driver, Briggs, Lexicon of the Old Testament, 948.
  17. Grudem, Systematic Theology, 328, emphasis mine.
  18. Thus, e.g., Murray is mistaken when he says, “The whole argument of the apostle in this section in refutation of the objection that there is unrighteousness in God (vs. 14) is conducted on the premise that salvation is not constrained by the dictates of justice, that it proceeds entirely from the exercise of sovereign mercy.” Murray, Romans, pt. 2, 29, emphasis mine.
  19. “As readers we do not determine the meaning of biblical words; rather, we try to discover what the biblical writer meant when he used a particular word:’ Duvall and Hays, Grasping God’s Word, 163.
  20. 224. Cottrell, Romans, 2:102.
  21. Horton, For Calvinism, 57. Cottrell makes the same point when he says that Calvinists “find this doctrine [unconditional election] especially in vv. 19-23, which they see as simply repeating the point of vv. 7-18.” Cottrell, Romans, 2:108.
  22. Cottrell, Romans, 2:107. 227. Grudem, i Peter, 106.
  23. Piper, “Destined to Disobey,” 5/13. Piper uses the ESV for v. 8, which says: “They stumble because they disobey the word, as they were destined to do:’
  24. This would include the NASB, ESV, NIV, NLT, Christian Standard Bible.
  25. A woodenly literal translation v. 8b of the Greek ὁι προσκοπτουσιν τω λογω ἀπειθουντες εἰς ὁ και ἐτεθησαν (hoi proskoptousin tō logō apeithountes eis ho kai, etethēsan) would be close to this: “Who stumble at the word disobeying to which indeed they were appointed.”
  26. Shank, Elect in the Son, 188.
  27. In fact, nowhere within any of Peter’s two letters (other than, allegedly, 1 Pet 2:8b) is there any indication that God is responsible for the unbelief or disobedience or stumbling of the ungodly.
  28. Shank, Elect in the Son, 189, emphasis original.
  29. Green, 1 Peter, 58.
  30. Grudem, Systematic Theology, 685.
  31. Berkhof, Systematic Theology, 116.
  32. The Greek word κριμα (krima), commonly translated as judgment, is used here in v. 4.
  33. Shank, Elect in the Son, 191.
  34. Baukham, Jude, 41.
  35. A midrash is an interpretation of an ancient Jewish text; usually in an Old Testament book, but occasionally, as here, an apocryphal book.
  36. Baukham, Jude, 100.
  37. Calvin, Institutes, 3.21.5.
  38. Wright, No Place for Sovereignty, 21-22, emphasis mine.
  39. Sproul, Reformed Theology, 157.
  40. Sproul, Reformed Theology, 157. Sproul himself considers the doctrine of symmetric predestination sub-Calvinism.
  41. Calvin, Institutes, 3.23.7.
  42. Grudem, Systematic Theology, 685. Grudem himself is a proponent of asymmetric predestination, not symmetric predestination. Grudem, like all Calvinists, holds to the doctrine of reprobation because he believes Scripture teaches it.
  43. Grudem, Systematic Theology, 687, 686. As the Westminster Confession states: “By the decree of God for the manifestation of his glory, some men and angels are predestinated unto everlasting life; and others foreordained to everlasting death:’ Westminster Confession of Faith, 3.3.
  44. It is important to maintain the distinction between, on the one hand, God reacting in judgment to evil people who deserve their judgment and, on the other hand, God unilaterally and unconditionally bringing evil upon certain individuals. The former is quite consistent with both the biblical testimony and moral sense, while the latter is neither.
  45. Grudem, Systematic Theology, 685. 251. Shank, Elect in the Son, 192.
  46. Sometimes the inconsistency is explicitly formulated by Calvinists. Thus, e.g., Calvin speaking of Adam’s sin says this: “Man therefore falls, divine providence so ordaining, but he falls by his own fault.” Calvin, Institutes, 3.23.8.
  47. “The problem for Calvinism is how to relieve God of responsibility for sin and rejection and still retain the thesis of monothetism.” Shank, Elect in the Son, 140. Monothetism is the belief in a single will (God’s will) that determines everything.
  48. Calvin, Institutes, 3.23.8. Sproul appeals to another work of Calvin in which Calvin seems to defend an asymmetric predestination view of reprobation as Sproul himself does. Sproul, Reformed Theology, Calvin was not always consistent in his views.
  49. Ware, “Divine Election,” 54.
  50. Ware, “Divine Election,” 54. This is also why appeal to the justice of God in merely treating the reprobate as they deserve is meaningless.
  51. Olson, Against Calvinism,105, emphasis mine.
  52. Bryson, Five Points, 39, emphasis mine.