THE CENTRAL CONTRAST Sproul criticizes preachers who tell people indiscriminately that God loves them unconditionally. But elsewhere he explicitly teaches that God loves the elect unconditionally. The question, then, is whether the logical opposite of the preaching he criticizes becomes the standard for “good” preaching in his own theological framework. In that sense, the argument becomes “Sproul vs. Sproul.”
1. The Holiness of God (1985)
“People aren’t afraid of the wrath of God anymore because preachers are out there telling people that God loves them unconditionally.”
— Adapted from R.C. Sproul, The Holiness of God (Wheaton, IL: Tyndale House, 1985), p. 12.
2. Truths We Confess: A Layman’s Guide to the Westminster Confession of Faith
(3-volume combined, 2019)
“It is true that God loves the elect unconditionally…”
— R.C. Sproul, Truths We Confess: A Layman’s Guide to the Westminster Confession of Faith, p. 452.
“In the case of the elect, God extends mercy. In the case of the reprobate, He withholds it.”
— R.C. Sproul, Truths We Confess, p. 119.
“Christ died for the elect—and only for them.”
— R.C. Sproul, Truths We Confess, p. 273.
Sproul explains that Christ’s intercession is for the elect in a way that He does not intercede for the rest of the world.
— R.C. Sproul, Truths We Confess, discussion of Westminster Confession of Faith 8.8.
3. Essential Truths of the Christian Faith (1992)
Chapter 62 — “Definite Atonement”
“God loves the whole world, but He does not save the whole world.”
— R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith, p. 177, Chapter 62, “Definite Atonement.”
Sproul teaches that Christ’s atonement was designed and intended only for the elect, and that Christ laid down His life for His sheep.
— R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith, pp. 176–177, Chapter 62, “Definite Atonement.”
Chapter 57 — “Predestination and Reprobation”
Sproul explains that God passes over the non-elect, leaving them in their sin, while the elect receive saving mercy.
— R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith, pp. 166–167, Chapter 57, “Predestination and Reprobation.”
Discussing God’s statement that He loved Jacob but hated Esau, Sproul presents two interpretations: the absence of redemptive love, or actual divine hatred. He describes Esau as a vessel fit for destruction and worthy of God’s wrath and holy hatred, then concludes: “Let the reader decide.”
— R.C. Sproul, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith, p. 167, Chapter 57, “Predestination and Reprobation.”
A Humorous Aside: “He Leaves the Reader to Decide”
Sproul says, “Let the reader decide.” Apparently, the reader gets to choose between two interpretations—but not without divine ordination!
After all, Sproul assures us there isn’t a single maverick molecule loose in the universe. Surely that includes every molecule, every firing neuron, and every chemical process in the reader’s brain while deciding which interpretation to accept.
EVEN THE DECISION TO DECIDE ISN’T OUTSIDE THE DECREE!
Editorial note: The passage from The Holiness of God is identified as an adaptation, not a verbatim quotation. Other quoted wording is presented as quoted in the cited editions; explanatory summaries are not direct quotations.
All Calvinists, whether they be Presbyterian or Reformed, Primitive Baptist or Sovereign Grace Baptist; all Calvinists, whether they be premillennial or amillennial, dispensational or covenant theologist; all Calvinists, whether they go by the name or not; all Calvinists have one thing in common: God, by a sovereign, eternal decree, has determined before the foundation of the world who shall be saved and who shall be lost. To obscure the real issue, a vocabulary has been invented to confuse and confound the Christian. The arguments about supralapsarianism and infralapsarianism, total depravity and total inability, reprobation and preterition, synergism and monergism, free will and free agency, common grace and special grace, general calling and effectual calling, perseverance and preservation, and the sovereignty of God are all immaterial.
Laurence M. Vance, The Other Side of Calvinism (Pensacola, FL: Vance Publications, 1991), 35.
Is Calvinism the faith of the early church, handed down in an unbroken line from the apostles? This video looks at what the church fathers before Augustine actually taught about free will and grace.
It first gives the Reformed historical narrative its full weight: Augustine of Hippo, Calvin’s systematization, the Synod of Dort and the appeal to Romans 9 and Ephesians 1. It then asks what came before Augustine’s late anti-Pelagian writings. Justin Martyr, writing around 150 AD, held that divine foreknowledge is not causation. Irenaeus of Lyon, around 180 AD in Against Heresies, made human freedom central to his answer to the Gnostics and asked why the apostle gave counsel if choice was not real. Origen rejected Stoic determinism, with an honest note on his condemned ideas, and John Chrysostom read Matthew 23:37 as real grief over real unwillingness. The video credits Augustine’s insight that grace is wholly unmerited, explains how the Pelagian controversy narrowed the earlier consensus, and notes that the Eastern Church never followed him there. It closes with John Wesley, who read these fathers in Greek and Latin and saw himself as recovering an older stream. Why is this history so rarely taught?
THE QUESTION CALVINISM DOES NOT WANT TO ANSWER
Calvinism is often presented as the recovery of historic Christianity: the doctrines of grace, the faith of the Reformers, the theology of Augustine, and ultimately the teaching of the apostles. That is an impressive historical claim. It is also a claim that must be tested against the historical record—not protected from examination by invoking the authority of later theologians.
The question is not whether the early Christians were Arminians, Provisionists, or Traditional Baptists. Those labels belong to later controversies. The question is whether the Christians nearest to the apostles taught that human beings are responsible agents who can respond to God’s commands, resist His appeals, obey or disobey, and exercise genuine choice in matters of faith—or whether they taught the deterministic system now represented by TULIP.
Here, the disputed determinism concerns saving faith: whether an unconditional decree fixes who will receive effectual grace, whether that grace makes their response certain, and whether those passed over lack the ability to respond. The historical test is not whether the fathers used later theological labels, but whether their accounts of faith and human responsibility support those specific claims.
The evidence presents Calvinism with a serious problem. The earliest Christian writers repeatedly defend human freedom and moral responsibility against systems that made human destiny fixed by nature, fate, or an overriding necessity. Irenaeus is especially important. He was not a medieval critic of Calvinism. He was a second-century bishop who had heard Polycarp, who had known the Apostle John. His testimony stands near the very beginning of the post-apostolic record.
Any Calvinist claim to the early church as a historical inheritance must deal honestly with what these writers actually said. A historical argument cannot simply leap from Paul to Augustine and from Augustine to Calvin, then treat those connections as proof that the whole history of Christianity has always taught TULIP. That would be selective memory, not a demonstration of continuity. The claim must be tested against the intervening witnesses.
JOHN, POLYCARP, AND IRENAEUS: A WITNESS CLOSE TO THE APOSTLES
Irenaeus’s connection to the apostolic generation is not an invented chain of internet apologetics. In his letter to Florinus, preserved by Eusebius in Ecclesiastical History 5.20, Irenaeus recalls hearing Polycarp speak. He describes Polycarp’s association with John and others who had seen the Lord. Irenaeus remembered Polycarp’s teaching, appearance, manner of life, and public accounts of his dealings with those who had known Christ.
This historical witness does not begin and end with Irenaeus. Norman Geisler, in Appendix One of Chosen but Free, documents the testimony of twenty prominent Christian thinkers spanning the early centuries of the church and extending through the medieval period. His list includes Justin Martyr (AD 100–165), Irenaeus (AD 130–200), Athenagoras of Athens, Theophilus of Antioch, Tatian of Syria, Bardaisan of Syria, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, Novatian of Rome, Origen, Methodius, Archelaus, Arnobius of Sicca, Cyril of Jerusalem, Gregory of Nyssa, Jerome, John Chrysostom, and even the earlier writings of Augustine, followed by Anselm and Thomas Aquinas. Geisler’s central observation is that, with the exception of Augustine’s later theological development, virtually all these major thinkers affirmed that human beings possess the power of contrary free choice, even in their fallen condition. This is not an isolated theological opinion from one second-century bishop. It represents a substantial historical testimony extending across generations of Christian thought. The question Calvinists must answer is straightforward: if unconditional election, irresistible grace, and the inability of fallen humanity to respond to God’s gracious appeal are the unmistakable teachings of the apostles, why is this such a difficult position to establish among the very Christian thinkers who lived closest to the apostolic generation?
The challenge is direct: when a second-century writer, standing in this historical line, explicitly says that the human will remains in a person’s own power with respect to faith, why should a much later system be allowed to redefine the terms and tell us that the early church really meant something else?
IRENAEUS AGAINST COERCION: HUMAN FREEDOM IS NOT A SIDE ISSUE
In Against Heresies IV.37, Irenaeus argues that God made human beings free agents. God does not compel obedience. Human beings possess the capacity to obey or disobey, and this freedom makes commands, warnings, praise, blame, reward, and judgment morally meaningful.
The point becomes unmistakable in IV.37.5. Irenaeus says:
“All such expressions demonstrate that man is in his own power with respect to faith.”
This is not a vague statement about choosing what to eat or where to live. He specifically includes faith. The statement directly challenges the claim that fallen people are incapable of believing unless they have first been regenerated by an irresistible act that cannot be resisted.
(IV.37–41) Irenaeus is explaining why God created human beings with the capacity for choice, why obedience must be voluntary rather than coerced, why people are accountable for their actions, and why God’s dealings with humanity are just. He does not deny that humanity is fallen. He does not teach sinless human nature or salvation by unaided human achievement. He argues that sin does not turn human beings into puppets or erase their moral agency.
That distinction matters. Calvinist polemic often tries to force every non-Calvinist account of human response into the category of Pelagianism or semi-Pelagianism. Irenaeus will not fit that caricature. He can affirm humanity’s need for God, the reality of sin, and divine grace while also insisting that the human will is not coerced and that faith involves genuine human response.
The Calvinist interpreter has work to do here.It is not enough to say that Irenaeus believed in “free will” in some generic sense and then quietly redefine that freedom as compatibilist willingness under an exhaustive decree. Irenaeus’s argument is about meaningful alternatives, non-coercion, and responsibility. If his language is to be made compatible with TULIP, that compatibility must be demonstrated from his context—not merely asserted after the fact.
THE ENEMIES IRENAEUS OPPOSED: GNOSTIC FATALISM AND STOIC FATE
Irenaeus was not debating a modern five-point confession. He was confronting the religious and philosophical systems of his own world. Against Heresies attacks Gnostic teachers who divided humanity into classes and assigned different spiritual conditions and destinies to people. In some of these systems, a person’s nature determined what that person could become. Irenaeus regarded such schemes as incompatible with the Creator’s justice and with the moral responsibility taught in Scripture.
Despite the fluidity of the religious mix of the early churches, we do know that gnosticism was the overriding issue facing the Christian community during the first four centuries of our era. Opposition to gnostic thought and practice occupies a great deal of the Pauline corpus; there are anti-gnostic themes in the Johannine literature and perhaps even in the Revelation.” By the end of the first century, the attack on gnosticism had been escalated by Ignatius (d. ca. 110), bishop of Antioch; Justin Martyr (ca. 100—ca. 165); and especially by Irenaeus (ca. 130—ca. 200), bishop of Lyons. The polemic was sustained by Tertullian of Carthage (ca. 160—ca. 220), the Roman theologian; Hippolytus (ca. 170—ca. 236); Origen of Alexandria (ca. 185—ca. 254); and many others. It would seem either that the gnostics posed a grave threat to Christianity or else that the Fathers were suffering from a pathological obsession, for this question to have absorbed so much of their considerable talents and energies.
Irenaeus, the gnostic fighter par excellence, records that “a multitude of Gnostics have sprung up, and have been manifested like mushrooms growing out of the ground.” The image is that of numerous fungi suddenly and rootlessly materializing on virgin soil. Irenaeus gives himself to the defense of that unprepared ground, the Church.
Philip J. Lee, Against the Protestant Gnostics (New York: Oxford University Press, 1987), 5.
Stoic philosophy presented a different challenge through its account of fate and the ordered necessity of events. Early Christian writers had to explain how divine foreknowledge could coexist with genuine human responsibility, without reducing human choices to fate. Justin Martyr, Tatian, and others addressed this problem. Their recurring concern was that foreknowledge must not be confused with coercion or causal determination.
We should not collapse Gnosticism, Stoicism, Augustinian theology, and Calvinism into one identical system. They are not identical, and similarity is not proof of direct borrowing. The sharper—and more defensible—charge is this: the early church fought against deterministic accounts of human destiny because they believed such accounts damaged the doctrines of God’s justice and human accountability.
Later Augustinian and Calvinist formulations must be tested against the very objections those early Christians raised.
The question is not whether Calvinists use the word “Gnostic.” The question is whether their system reintroduces, in a Christianized form, the kind of fixed spiritual destinies and determined outcomes that early Christian writers rejected. When a theology says that God unconditionally selects some for saving grace, withholds that grace from the rest, and ensures that the selected cannot finally resist, the resemblance deserves examination. Calling the system “the doctrines of grace” does not answer the historical or moral question.
THE WIDER PRE-AUGUSTINIAN WITNESS
Irenaeus is the centerpiece, but he is not the only early witness worth hearing. Justin Martyr argues that foreknowledge does not abolish human choice. Tatian rejects fate and speaks of the freedom of human and angelic agents. Clement of Alexandria connects moral responsibility and faith with genuine human response. Tertullian argues against making God the author of human wrongdoing. Origen explicitly resists philosophical determinism and defends human freedom.
These writers do not form a modern denominational statement, and they do not agree on every question. It would be careless to call them all Provisionists or Arminians. But it is equally careless—and historically indefensible—to pretend that the early church simply taught the later Reformed system. Their repeated insistence on human agency, responsibility, and the distinction between foreknowledge and fate is a substantial obstacle to claims that TULIP was the uncontested apostolic position.
The resources gathered for this project help establish the breadth of the question. Norman Geisler’s Chosen but Free, especially Appendix One, assembles statements from a range of historical Christian writers. David Bercot’s Will the Real Heretics Please Stand Up raises the question of who is better positioned to understand the apostles: those close to the apostolic generation or later theological interpreters. Ken Wilson’s The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism and A Defense of Free Grace Theology examine the development of Augustinian soteriology. Ken Johnson’s The Gnostic Origins of Calvinism supplies additional material and claims to investigate concerning Irenaeus, Gnostic thought, and later determinist theology.
These secondary authors are research guides, not substitutes for primary sources. Their quotations and historical conclusions must be checked against the fathers themselves. But the combined research points toward a question that Calvinist histories often minimize:
why does the early record so frequently defend the very human freedom that later deterministic systems must qualify, redefine, or deny?
AUGUSTINE: A MAJOR TURN IN THE WESTERN STORY
One aspect of Augustine’s understanding of grace needs further comment. As human beings were incapable of saving themselves, and as God gave his gift of grace to some (but not all), it followed that God had “preselected” those who would be saved. Developing hints of this idea to be found in the New Testament, Augustine developed a doctrine of predestination. The term “predestination” refers to God’s original or eternal decision to save some, and not others. It was this aspect of Augustine’s thought which many of his contemporaries, not to mention his successors, found unacceptable. It need hardly be said that there is no direct equivalent in Pelagius’s thought.
Alister E. McGrath, Historical Theology: An Introduction to the History of Christian Thought (Malden, MA: Wiley & Sons LTD, 2013), 34.
The argument becomes especially important when the discussion reaches Augustine. Augustine was a towering figure, but he was not the apostle John, and his theology is not identical with the testimony of the second-century church. His views developed over time, particularly during his controversy with Pelagius and his followers.
Dave Hunt, in What Love Is This? Calvinism’s Misrepresentation of God, presses this point forcefully. Hunt argues that Augustine earlier affirmed free will and God’s desire for the salvation of all, but later adopted a much more restrictive account of grace, election, and the will. Hunt points to Augustine’s earlier statements on foreknowledge and free choice, including Augustine’s argument that God’s infallible foreknowledge does not compel human beings or cancel their willing. Hunt contrasts those statements with Augustine’s later doctrines of the elect, the massa perditionis, and grace given effectually to some while withheld from others.
That development deserves serious attention. The issue is not whether Augustine was intelligent, influential, or sincere. The issue is whether his later anti-Pelagian conclusions represent the faith delivered by the apostles—or a major theological development shaped by a particular controversy. If the first three centuries repeatedly emphasize human freedom and responsibility, then the burden is on those who make Augustine’s later position the measuring rod for Christian orthodoxy.
A necessary historical distinction must be made:
Augustine did formally reject Manichaeism and embraced Nicene Christianity, but that conversion does not mean his former religious commitments ceased to influence his theological development. In fact, substantial scholarship argues that his Manichaean background remained critically important to the formation of his later theology. Ken Wilson argues that Augustine’s post-412 theological developments involved the adoption of deterministic interpretations of Scripture previously advanced by his Manichaean opponents, including interpretations concerning human inability, divine election, and inherited condemnation.
Jason BeDuhn, while rejecting the claim that Augustine simply remained a Manichaean, reaches a significant related conclusion: Augustine appropriated particular Manichaean insights, detached them from their original religious system, and incorporated them into his developing Christian theology. BeDuhn specifically identifies the fragmentedness and disability of the human will and the necessity of divine grace among the concepts that may represent direct borrowings from Manichaeism. Consequently, the historical question is not whether Augustine formally abandoned Manichaeism—he did—but whether elements of its theological framework subsequently reappeared, transformed and incorporated into his influential Christian teachings. The evidence presented by Wilson and BeDuhn makes that question impossible to dismiss merely by pointing to Augustine’s conversion.
Hunt’s central challenge is moral as well as exegetical:
what kind of love is being attributed to God if He sincerely commands all to repent, invites all to come, and declares His desire that people be saved, while the theological system says He has withheld from many the only grace by which they could respond?
What kind of justice condemns people for failing to do what, by the system’s own definition, they were never enabled to do? Those questions cannot be dismissed as emotional objections. They go to the character of the God being proclaimed.
CALVIN: AUGUSTINE’S AUTHORITY BECOMES A SYSTEM
John Calvin did not invent every element of the theology later called Calvinism. He drew extensively on Augustine, cited him repeatedly in the Institutes, and treated him as a major authority on predestination and grace. Hunt documents this dependence with examples from Calvin’s own writings. Calvin invokes Augustine when defending predestination, reprobation, and the claim that God’s decree cannot be resisted.
The historical line is therefore not simply “the apostles taught TULIP, and Calvin recovered it.” A more accurate line of inquiry is:
the early fathers debated freedom and fate;
Augustine developed a distinctive and increasingly restrictive account of grace and predestination (see Appendix A);
Calvin drew heavily on Augustine and systematized those themes in the Reformation era;
and the five points were later formalized in response to the Remonstrants at the Synod of Dort.
That chronology matters. The acronym TULIP is not found in the New Testament, nor was it a confession written by the apostles or Irenaeus. The five-point formulation emerged in a later controversy. Its defenders must establish that its doctrines are biblical and apostolic; they cannot establish that simply by pointing to Augustine’s influence on Calvin or Calvin’s influence on later Reformed confessions.
Hunt’s critique in What Love Is This? is especially sharp on the consequences of the system. If total depravity means inability to believe, unconditional election selects some and passes over others, limited atonement restricts Christ’s saving intent to the elect, irresistible grace ensures the elect’s response, and perseverance guarantees their final salvation, then what becomes of the repeated biblical invitations to all people? What becomes of God’s stated desire that all come to repentance? What becomes of the sincerity of the gospel offer to those whom the system says cannot respond and for whom Christ did not die?
Calvinists have answers to these questions, usually involving distinctions between God’s revealed and decretive wills, compatibilist freedom, and the difference between external calling and effectual calling. But naming those distinctions is not the same as resolving the contradiction. The question remains whether the system preserves the plain force of the biblical invitations—or redefines them so that “all,” “world,” “whoever,” and “any” repeatedly mean only the elect, or mean something less than their ordinary force.
THE FIVE POINTS UNDER CROSS-EXAMINATION See APPENDIX B
TOTAL DEPRAVITY:All Christians who take sin seriously affirm that humanity is fallen and cannot save itself. The dispute is whether depravity entails an absolute inability to respond to God’s gracious initiative. Irenaeus’s statement that a person is in his own power with respect to faith is a direct challenge to that added conclusion. Sin is real; so is accountability. One does not prove inability merely by repeating that sinners are spiritually dead.
UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION:The issue is whether God chose particular individuals for salvation without reference to foreknown faith, and whether that choice necessarily entails passing over the rest. Hunt argues that Scripture’s election language is repeatedly connected to foreknowledge and to blessings and purposes in Christ, not a secret decree assigning some individuals to heaven and others to hell. Irenaeus’s appeal to foreknowledge and responsible choice must be faced, not waved away.
LIMITED ATONEMENT: If Christ did not die for the non-elect, then the universal language of the New Testament must be qualified. The gospel preacher cannot straightforwardly tell every hearer, “Christ died for you,” if he believes Christ’s atoning death was never intended for that hearer. Hunt presses the point: a restricted atonement sits uneasily beside the biblical presentation of Christ as Savior of the world and the provision made for all.
IRRESISTIBLE GRACE: If saving grace cannot be resisted by the elect, and the non-elect are never given the grace necessary to believe, then the biblical warnings against resisting God and the repeated calls to repent require explanation. Irenaeus’s insistence that God does not compel obedience and that human beings are responsible for their response is directly relevant.
PERSEVERANCE: The question is not whether God keeps His people. The question is whether the doctrine is being used to make the entire response of faith, the continuance in faith, and the final outcome the inevitable result of an irresistible decree in a way that empties biblical warnings and exhortations of their ordinary force. The texts must be allowed to speak before the system decides what they are permitted to mean.
Challenging the Historical Narrative: Was the Early Church Calvinistic?
Here’s a question worth asking the next time someone suggests that rejecting Calvinism means rejecting the historic Christian faith:
What did the Christians who lived before Augustine actually believe about human freedom, faith, grace, and election?
The historical record deserves a much broader examination than simply tracing a line from the Apostle Paul to Augustine, then to Luther and Calvin.
Consider some of the witnesses:
Justin Martyr (c. AD 150): Argued that divine foreknowledge and human freedom are compatible, and that human beings are accountable for their choices.
Irenaeus of Lyons (c. AD 180): Made genuine human freedom central to his argument against heretical teachings. He explicitly included faith in his discussion of human freedom, writing that “man is in his own power with respect to faith” (Against Heresies IV.37.5).
Origen (c. AD 230): Defended meaningful human agency and challenged philosophical determinism.
John Chrysostom (c. AD 400): Interpreted Christ’s lament over Jerusalem in Matthew 23:37 as expressing a genuine desire to gather those who were unwilling to come.
These were not sixteenth-century Reformers or seventeenth-century Arminians. They were Christian writers addressing these questions centuries before those theological systems existed.
Their writings demonstrate that human freedom, accountability, and the ability to respond to God’s invitations were established subjects of early Christian theology.
The Augustinian Turning Point
Augustine deserves his place in Christian history. His contributions to the doctrines of grace, sin, and salvation were enormous. His insistence that salvation is entirely dependent upon God’s grace remains an essential consideration in any serious theological discussion.
But his mature writings on predestination, inherited sin, and irresistible grace emerged in a particular historical setting, especially during his controversy with Pelagius in the early fifth century.
The question is whether Augustine’s later formulations represent the uncontested position of the preceding Christian centuries.
The Eastern Christian tradition, in particular, developed a substantially different understanding of original sin, human freedom, and the relationship between grace and the human will. Nor did all Western theologians simply adopt Augustine’s strongest conclusions.
This is an important distinction:
Augustine’s influence on subsequent Western theology should not be confused with proof that every aspect of his mature soteriology represented the universal teaching of the earliest church.
The History We Need to Read
There is another question worth considering. If the historical discussion of Christian soteriology begins primarily with Augustine, what happens to the three centuries of Christian writing that preceded him?
Which church fathers receive attention? Which passages are emphasized? Which theological disagreements are explained? And which earlier voices are overlooked when the history of Christian salvation is presented?
Historical narratives inevitably influence how people understand theological orthodoxy. If someone is repeatedly told that Calvinism represents the historic Christian consensus, that claim deserves to be examined against the writings of the earliest Christian generations.We should not dismiss church history. We should read more of it.
We should not force Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Origen, or Chrysostom into modern theological categories. But neither should we ignore their writings when evaluating claims about the historical origins of Calvinist theology.
The fathers are still there. Their writings have not disappeared. And their testimony deserves to be heard.
The question is not whether every early Christian writer agreed with modern Provisionism, Arminianism, or Traditional Baptist theology. They did not formulate those systems. The question is whether the historical evidence supports the assertion that Calvinism represents the original, uncontested understanding of Christian salvation.
That is a much larger historical question than simply asking whether Augustine agreed with Calvin.
THE HISTORICAL BURDEN OF PROOF
Calvinists often tell non-Calvinists that rejecting TULIP means rejecting historic Christianity. That claim reverses the burden of proof. The early Christian writings must be examined before a later system is declared the historic standard. A second-century witness connected to Polycarp and John cannot be dismissed simply because his language is inconvenient to a seventeenth-century confession or a modern Reformed system.
If Irenaeus’s teaching is incompatible with key claims of TULIP, Calvinists must do one of two things. They must show, from Irenaeus’s own context, that his statements about freedom and faith are compatible with their doctrines; or they must acknowledge that Irenaeus did not teach their system and explain why a later theological development should override this early witness. What they cannot honestly do is claim Irenaeus as an uncomplicated Calvinist while ignoring his explicit argument that human beings are in their own power with respect to faith.
And if the wider pre-Augustinian record points in the same direction, the problem becomes larger. The claim that Calvinism is simply apostolic Christianity in its purest form becomes historically untenable unless the evidence is addressed. Later influence is not proof of earlier consensus. A doctrine does not become apostolic because Augustine adopted it, Calvin systematized it, or the Reformed tradition institutionalized it.
CONCLUSION: THE FATHERS CANNOT BE ERASED
This is not a plea for ecumenical silence. It is a demand for historical honesty and biblical accountability on three connected questions. Historically, a theology that makes faith impossible until an irresistible act of regeneration must confront the early Christian witness to human responsibility with respect to faith. Exegetically and morally, a theology that portrays God as withholding saving grace from people He commands to repent, then condemning them for unbelief, must explain how that account preserves His justice and the sincerity of His invitation. And a theology that makes every event—including sin—part of an exhaustive decree must explain how God is not thereby made the ultimate determiner of the evil He forbids. These are the questions the argument requires the later system to answer.
Irenaeus is not a decorative name to place in a historical timeline. He is a witness. He heard Polycarp. Polycarp was connected to John. Irenaeus fought systems that assigned fixed spiritual destinies and undermined moral responsibility. In the very course of defending the faith, he argued that God created human beings with genuine agency and that their response to Him was not coerced.
The later Augustinian and Calvinist systems must answer that witness. They must also answer Justin, Tatian, Clement, Tertullian, and Origen where their writings defend freedom and responsibility. They cannot claim the fathers when convenient and dismiss them when inconvenient.
Before Augustine. Before Calvin. Before Dort. Before TULIP.
The early church was already confronting determinism
—and Irenaeus’s words remain a challenge to anyone who
claims that the deterministic conclusions of later theology
are simply what the apostles taught.
The question for Calvinism is not whether it can construct a sophisticated explanation of these historical facts. It is whether that explanation is faithful to Scripture and honest about the historical record. The fathers are still there. Their writings have not disappeared. And no later system has the authority to make them say the opposite of what they wrote.
RESEARCH BASE AND IMPORTANT DISTINCTIONS
Primary sources to foreground: Irenaeus, Against Heresies IV.37–41; Irenaeus’s letter to Florinus as preserved in Eusebius, Ecclesiastical History 5.20; Justin Martyr, First Apology; Tatian, Address to the Greeks; and the relevant writings of Clement, Tertullian, and Origen. Verify every quotation against a reliable translation and retain the immediate context.
Secondary resources supplied for this project: Dave Hunt, What Love Is This? Calvinism’s Misrepresentation of God; Ken Wilson, The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism; Ken Johnson, The Gnostic Origins of Calvinism; Norman Geisler, Chosen but Free, especially Appendix One; David Bercot, Will the Real Heretics Please Stand Up; and A Defense of Free Grace Theology, including the pages and appendix previously identified.
This essay deliberately advances a forceful critique, but it distinguishes doctrinal resemblance from historical dependence. It does not claim that Augustine or Calvin simply copied Gnostic or Stoic systems. It argues that later determinist formulations must answer the early church’s explicit opposition to fatalism, fixed spiritual destinies, coercion, and the denial of meaningful human responsibility.
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———. A Treatise on the Soul. In Ante-Nicene Fathers, edited by Alexander Roberts and James Donaldson. Peabody, MA: Hendrickson Publishers, 1994.
Modern Books and Theological Studies
Anderson, David R., Fred Chay, Joseph Dillow, J. Paul Tanner, and Ken Wilson. A Defense of Free Grace Theology: With Respect to Saving Faith, Perseverance, and Assurance. Grace Theology Press, 2017.
Bercot, David W. Will the Real Heretics Please Stand Up: A New Look at Today’s Evangelical Church in the Light of Early Christianity. 3rd ed. Amberson, PA: Scroll Publishing Company, 1999.
Coate, Micah. A Cultish Side of Calvinism. Innovo Publishing, 2011.
Geisler, Norman L. Chosen but Free: A Balanced View of God’s Sovereignty and Free Will. 3rd ed., revised and expanded. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 2010.
Hunt, Dave. What Love Is This? Calvinism’s Misrepresentation of God. 4th ed. Bend, OR: The Berean Call, 2018.
Johnson, Ken. The Gnostic Origins of Calvinism. 2013.
Robinson, Geoffrey D. Saved by Grace through Faith or Saved by Decree? A Biblical and Theological Critique of Calvinist Soteriology. Eugene, OR: Wipf & Stock, 2022.
Wilson, Kenneth M. Augustine’s Conversion from Traditional Free Choice to “Non-free Free Will”: A Comprehensive Methodology. Studien und Texte zu Antike und Christentum 111. Tübingen: Mohr Siebeck, 2018.
———. The Foundation of Augustinian-Calvinism. Montgomery, TX: Regula Fidei Press, 2019.
Edited Volumes and Additional Theological Critiques
Allen, David L., and Steve W. Lemke, eds. Calvinism: A Biblical and Theological Critique. Nashville: B&H Academic, 2022.
———, eds. Whosoever Will: A Biblical-Theological Critique of Five-Point Calvinism. Nashville: B&H Publishing Group, 2010.
APPENDIX A This is a summary I am zeroing in on of a book review, found HERE.
One of the most significant findings in Jason David BeDuhn’s historical study, as summarized by Byard Bennett, is the documented change in Augustine’s understanding of the human will. Bennett explains that Augustine’s earlier Christian position explicitly defended free will, maintaining that moral responsibility required genuine human freedom and that impairment of rational control was temporary and remediable. However, following his engagement with Manichaean arguments, particularly those raised by Fortunatus in 392, and his subsequent interaction with Tyconius’s interpretation of Paul, Augustine’s position changed. Bennett identifies the shift with remarkable clarity:
“Augustine’s earlier free will position had understood the will as a will to do good. Following Tyconius, Augustine now saw the will as a will to depend on God” (302).
Augustine increasingly portrayed the fallen will as internally divided, weakened, and unable to accomplish good without effective divine intervention. The consequences were substantial. As Bennett explains, conversion was no longer understood as the product of effective human agency, as Augustine’s earlier position had maintained; rather, conversion became the beginning of such agency (304). This is a documented theological development in Augustine’s own thinking. The later Augustinian emphasis on human inability and the efficacy of divine grace should therefore not be casually projected backward as though it had always been Augustine’s position.
Bennett describes Augustine’s earlier Christian position as a direct rejection of the Manichaean explanation of human sinfulness.
Augustine maintained that:
There was no inherently evil nature compelling people to sin.
Actions performed under necessity could not properly be considered sinful.
Every rational being possessed free will.
Moral responsibility—and therefore guilt—required free will.
The impairment of rational control was temporary and remediable, arising from habits developed through negligence and disordered bodily desires.
Bennett’s description is particularly significant:
“Only where one possesses free will can moral responsibility (and hence, sinfulness) exist.” (p. 301)
This is not a minor qualification. Augustine’s earlier defense of moral responsibility rested upon the existence of genuine human freedom.
The turning point: Augustine’s encounter with Fortunatus in 392
Bennett identifies Augustine’s debate with the Manichaean Fortunatus in 392 as an important turning point. Fortunatus challenged Augustine’s free-will defense by appealing to Paul’s descriptions of human conflict and inability, particularly:
Romans 7
Ephesians 2
These passages forced Augustine to reconsider whether his earlier understanding of free will adequately explained humanity’s spiritual condition. Bennett writes that Fortunatus’s arguments led Augustine to study these disputed Pauline passages more closely.
Augustine began reconsidering the relationship between human inability, sin, and grace.
The shift: From a will to do good to a will dependent upon God
This is arguably the most important sentence in the entire review:
“Augustine’s earlier free will position had understood the will as a will to do good. Following Tyconius, Augustine now saw the will as a will to depend on God.” (p. 302)
Consider the difference:
Earlier Augustine
Developing Augustine
The will possesses genuine freedom.
The will is fundamentally impaired.
The will can choose to do good.
The will must depend upon God to do good.
Moral responsibility requires free will.
Human inability becomes central to explaining the need for grace.
Impaired rational control is temporary and remediable.
Sin exercises an internal coercive influence over the fallen will.
This is a substantial theological development, not merely a change in terminology.
The developing doctrine of inability
Bennett then describes Augustine’s increasingly negative assessment of the pre-conversion human will. On page 303, Augustine’s developing position portrays sensual desire (concupiscence) as:
An irrational internal compulsion.
A coercive power that subverts rational autonomy.
An indwelling power of sin.
A force that undermines the individual’s ability to will rightly.
Bennett makes another important observation:
Augustine’s model of the individual’s pre-conversion life “more nearly resembled the view held by the Manichaeans than that held by the earlier Catholic commentators on Paul’s letters.” (p. 303)
Augustine did not adopt the Manichaean explanation of two competing natures. Instead, he increasingly described the human will itself as divided, corrupted, and weakened.
The resulting position: Grace creates faith
The review then describes the implications of this developing understanding. Bennett explains that Augustine’s later position increasingly emphasized that:
The fallen human being cannot independently accomplish what is good.
The human soul is radically dependent upon divine grace.
Grace creates faith.
The human response follows God’s effective call.
Conversion is no longer the consequence of effective human agency; it becomes the beginning of such agency.
Bennett’s wording is particularly direct:
“Conversion is therefore not a product and consequence of effective human agency (as Augustine’s earlier freewill position had contended); conversion is instead the beginning of such agency.” (p. 304)
That sentence explicitly contrasts Augustine’s earlier and developing positions.
BOTTOM LINE: This review of the book documents the change in the will’s perceived capacity; it documents the resulting change in the understanding of conversion and grace. Together, they make a much stronger historical argument than simply saying Augustine was influenced by Manichaeism.
APPENDIX B This is an excerpt of a book found HERE. PDF also.
MAJOR POINTS – TULIP
Ken Johnson, The Gnostic Origins of Calvinism (CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform, 2013), pages 34–63 of thePDF.
As we said, Calvinism consists of five major points which can be remembered using the acronym TULIP. Calvinism says we are Totally depraved, meaning we could not accept God’s gift of salvation even if we wanted to. God must Unconditionally elect those He wants saved because we cannot do anything to be saved. God Limited the atonement to only those few He wanted to save. All the rest He consigned to hell. None of those He wants to be saved can refuse their salvation, because God uses an Irresistible grace. That being the case, God forces the Perseverance of the saints, making sure they cannot lose their salvation. In addition to these there are minor points: Calvinistic Foreknowledge and Calvinistic Predestination.
In contrast, Arminianism teaches that everyone is born with a sin nature, but each has the free will to accept or reject Christ as their Savior. Salvation is available to all on the condition that each accepts Christ as his Savior. The Atonement of salvation is open to all, so that “whosoever will” may be saved. The Atonement is not limited to a select few. God draws all individuals to salvation by grace, but grace can be resisted by free will.
Some Arminian denominations teach that you can lose your salvation and other Arminian denominations teach you cannot. But even those who believe you cannot lose your salvation base it on God’s love for us, not His predestination, as Calvinists and Gnostics do.
The extreme forms of Calvinism and Arminianism are Universalism (the belief that everyone will eventually be saved) and Pelagianism. [Irenaeus, Against Heresies 1.27]
Being a Calvinist does not make you a non-Christian heretic. It simply shows that part of your doctrine is not perfect. It should be noted that to be a Calvinist you must accept all five points of Calvinism, or that doctrine falls apart. Some denominations state they are partial Calvinists, but in reality they simply redefine two or three points and accept the rest as Arminian theology. With this in mind, we need to look at the five major and three minor points of Calvinism and its related theology and compare them to the Bible and what the ancient church fathers taught.
Total Depravity
Calvinist Definition WRONG
Each man is so totally depraved that he could not accept the gift of salvation God would give him because he has no free will to do so. Therefore, God simply decreed before the creation of man that some individuals would be saved. God then intervenes in their lives to force them to be saved. He decrees all the others will spend eternity in hell.
One argument is that Colossians 2 and Ephesians 2 state we are dead in trespasses and sin. The Calvinist will argue that the dead cannot make decisions. But if we look at the context, it says that we are all “dead men walking,” so to speak. We all have sinned, and if God did not intervene, we would all parish.
Arminian Definition CORRECT
Each man is totally deprived in the sense that he cannot do anything to bring about his own salvation. But when God reveals Himself to that person, he has the ability, or free will, to accept the free gift of salvation God is offering him. Those who refuse the gift will spend eternity in hell.
Pelagian Definition WRONG
If you allow yourself to become corrupted by sin, you could become totally depraved, incapable of ever being saved.
BIBLICAL POSITION
First John teaches all mankind is born with a sin nature. If you deny that, you are deceived. If you think you were not born with a sin nature and that you have been sinless all your life and do not need a savior, you are calling God a liar.
“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.” 1 John 1:8-10
Paul says in Romans 3 that no one born is righteous or even tries to seek after God. Everyone has sinned (because of their sin nature) and is on their way to hell because of it.
“As it is written, there is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.” Romans 3:10-12
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God” Romans 3:23
This is sometimes called total depravity or total inability. But can a person accept the free gift of salvation by just believing in Jesus, or is that impossible for them as well?
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” John 3:16
Calvinists state that accepting a free gift would be a work, which amounts to a works salvation and not by God’s grace. But Paul says accepting a free gift is not a work, instead it is simply belief.
“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 4:5
So we are depraved in the sense that we can do nothing to save ourselves, but we are free to believe and accept God’s gift of salvation.
“ … through His name whosoever believeth in Him shall receive remission of sins.” Acts 10:43
“And this is the will of Him that sent Me, that everyone which seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.” John 6:40
Quotes of the Ancient Church Fathers
Justin Martyr, AD 165
Second Apology 7 – Man acts by his own free will and not by fate.
Dialogue 88 – Men and angels have free will. The human race from Adam had fallen under the power of death and the guile of the serpent, so that each one of us has committed personal transgression.
Dialogue 102 – He created both angels and men free to do that which is righteous, and He appointed periods of time during which He knew it would be good for them to have the exercise of free will; and because He likewise knew it would be good, He made general and particular judgments; each one’s freedom of will, however, being guarded.
Dialogue 141 – God created men and angels free to do righteousness; possessing reason, that they may know by whom they are created, and through whom they, not existing formerly, do now exist; and with a law that they should be judged by Him, if they do anything contrary to right reason: and of ourselves we, men and angels, shall be convicted of having acted sinfully, unless we repent beforehand. But if the word of God foretells that some angels and men shall be certainly punished, it did so because it foreknew that they would be unchangeably wicked, but not because God had created them so.
Tatian, AD 165
Greeks 7 – Jesus created men and angels with free will. Jesus had foreknowledge of what free agents would do. There is no such thing as fate.
Greeks 9 – Demons invented the concept of fate with astrology to enslave man into worshiping them.
Greeks 11 – Our free will enslaved us to sin [Rom. 7], but we can choose to follow righteousness now.
Irenaeus, AD 177
Against Heresies 4.29 – God only blinds the minds of those who chose not to believe and have already rejected him. In Romans [1], those who would not retain God in their knowledge He gave them over to a reprobate mind. In 2 Thessalonians [2], strong delusion is sent to believe the lie. God knows the number of those who will not believe, since He foreknows all things, has given them over to unbelief. God has foreknowledge of all things.
Against Heresies 4.37 – God made man a free agent from the beginning. This is the ancient law of human liberty, for there is no coercion with God. In man, as well as in angels, He has placed the power of choice. The Gnostic teaching that some men are born good, and others are born bad, is wrong. Everyone has the power to reject the Gospel. God has free will and we do, too, because we are made in His image. God preserved the will of man free and under his own control. We will be brought to perfection in the resurrection. Romans [8] refers to the church being predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ.
Against Heresies 4.39 – Man has the ability to distinguish good from evil. He has the power by his own free will to perform God’s commandments. This is taught in Romans [2]. God does not compel people to salvation, so those who have apostatized have done so through their own fault. God allows them to blind themselves.
Clement of Alexandria, AD 192
Stromata 2.3 – Christians teach saving faith is a gift that starts with God and is accepted by free choice.
Stromata 2.4 – The ability to freely choose salvation is a gift [started by] God, but true faith produces repentance.
Stromata 5.3 – Faith is the rational assent of the soul exercising free will.
Tertullian, AD 190-210
Marcion 2.5 – Man has free will.
Minucius Felix, AD 210
36 – The mind of man is free from birth and remains free throughout his life.
Origen, AD 230
Against Celsus 4:70 – Man has free will.
Mathetes AD 130
Epistle to Diognetus 7 – Jesus, who is God come in the flesh, came to persuade, not compel us, to salvation because violence has no part in the character of God.
Unconditional Election
Calvinist Definition WRONG
Man’s election unto salvation is unconditional because he is incapable of accepting God’s free gift. If he was able to accept or decline the gift, the gift would be on the condition that man accepted it.
Arminian Definition CORRECT
Man’s election to salvation is conditional based on the condition that he accept the free gift from God by using his free will to believe. Accepting a gift is not a work.
Pelagian Definition WRONG
Man’s election unto salvation is conditional. It is based on the condition that he not sin in this life and accept Jesus as Savior.
BIBLICAL POSITION
Those who are saved are not saved by their own merit.
“Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;” Titus 3:5
“Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,” 2 Timothy 1:9
In other words, there is nothing we can do to start, help, or finish the process of salvation. Salvation is not connected to any work or good deed we could do. It is entirely by God’s grace.
“Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” 1 Timothy 2:4
“The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” 2 Peter 3:9
We are elect through belief.
“But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:” 2 Thessalonians 2:13
“Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.” 1 Peter 1:2
“Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall” 2 Peter 1:10
You must watch yourself carefully to make your election real. This shows us a conditional election. You are part of the elect on the condition that you make it a sure thing. You do that by exercising your free will and accepting the gift God’s wants to give you.
Paul said belief is not a work.
“But to him that worketh not, but believeth on Him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.” Romans 4:5
“No man can come to Me, except the Father which hath sent Me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.” John 6:44
“And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.” Acts 13:48
“For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.” Romans 8:29
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: according as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love: having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will” Ephesians 1:3-5
We need to guard ourselves because salvation is based on belief.
“Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.” Hebrews 3:12
“Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:” Hebrews 4:6
“Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.” Hebrews 4:11
Quotes of the Ancient Church Fathers
Justin Martyr, AD 165
Second Apology 7 – Man acts by his own free will and not by fate.
Dialogue 88 – Men and angels have free will. The human race, from Adam forward, has fallen under the power of death and the guile of the serpent, so that each one of us has committed personal transgression.
Dialogue 102 – He created both angels and men free to do that which is righteous, and He appointed periods of time during which He knew it would be good for them to have the exercise of free will; and because He likewise knew it would be good, He made general and particular judgments; each one’s freedom of will, however, being guarded.
Dialogue 141 – God created men and angels free to do righteousness; possessing reason, that they may know by whom they are created, and through whom they, not existing formerly, do now exist; and with a law that they should be judged by Him, if they do anything contrary to right reason: and of ourselves, we, men and angels, shall be convicted of having acted sinfully, unless we repent beforehand. But if the word of God foretells that some angels and men shall be certainly punished, it did so because it foreknew that they would be unchangeably wicked, but not because God had created them so.
Tatian, AD 165
Greeks 7 – Jesus created men and angels with free will. Jesus had foreknowledge of what free agents would do. There is no such thing as fate.
Greeks 9 – Demons invented the concept of fate with astrology to enslave man into worshiping them.
Greeks 11 – Our free will enslaved us to sin. [Rom 7] but we can choose to follow righteousness now.
Irenaeus, AD 177
Against Heresies 4.29 – God only blinds the minds of those who chose not to believe and have already rejected Him. In Romans [1], those who would not retain God in their knowledge He gave over to a reprobate mind. In 2 Thessalonians [2], strong delusion is sent to believe the lie. God knows the number of those who will not believe, since He foreknows all things, and has given them over to unbelief. God has foreknowledge of all things.
Against Heresies 4.37 – God made man a free agent from the beginning. This is the ancient law of human liberty, for there is no coercion with God. In man, as well as in angels, He has placed the power of choice. The Gnostic teaching that some men are born good, and others are born bad, is wrong. Everyone has the power to reject the gospel. God has free will and we do, too, because we are made in His image. God preserved the will of man free and under his own control. We will be brought to perfection in the resurrection. Romans [8] refers to the church being predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ.
Against Heresies 4.39 – Man has the ability to distinguish good from evil. He has the power by his own free will to perform God’s commandments. This is taught in Romans [2]. God does not compel people to salvation, so those who have apostatized have done so through their own fault. God allows them to blind themselves.
Clement of Alexandria, AD 192
Stromata 2.3 – Christians teach saving faith is a gift that starts with God and is accepted by free choice.
Stromata 2.4 – The ability to freely choose salvation is a gift [started by] God, but true faith produces repentance.
Stromata 5.3 – Faith is the rational assent of the soul exercising free will.
Stromata 5.12 – The Holy Spirit opens the minds of believers.
Stromata 7.2 – Jesus persuades, but never compels us to salvation.
Tertullian, AD 190-210
Marcion 2.5 – Man has free will.
Marcion 2.23 – It is not the mark of a good God to condemn beforehand persons who have not yet deserved condemnation. Who is so faultless among men, that God could always have him in His choice, and never be able to reject him? Or who, on the other hand, is so void of any good work, that God could reject him forever, and never be able to choose him?
Minucius Felix, AD 210
36 – The mind of man is free from birth and remains free throughout his life.
Origen, AD 230
Against Celsus 4:70 – Man has free will.
Against Celsus 7.50 – Jesus’ sacrifice was for newborn infants also, since no one is born free from sin.
Limited Atonement
Calvinist Definition WRONG
Jesus’ work on the cross atoned for the sins of only a select few. All the others have no chance to be saved and are predestined for hell.
Arminian Definition CORRECT
Jesus’ work on the cross atoned for the sins of all mankind. Those who reject Him have no chance to be saved and are eternally lost.
Pelagian Definition WRONG
Jesus’ work on the cross atoned for the sins of all mankind. This covers the sin nature and unintentional sins. You must pay for willful sins.
BIBLICAL POSITION
Jesus’ death on the cross paid for the sins of the whole world, not just a select few. This atonement is not limited. Peter says it is a heresy to state that the Lord did not die for all men. It is not His “good pleasure” to send anyone to hell.
“For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.” Ezekiel 18:32
“For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” 1 Timothy 2:3-4
“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.” 1 Timothy 2:5-6
“But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that He by the grace of God should taste death for every man.” Hebrews 2:9
“And He is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” 1 John 2:2
“But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.” 2 Peter 2:1
“To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.” 2 Corinthians 5:19
“And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world.” 1 John 4:14
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through Him might be saved.” John 3:16-17
“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” Romans 10:13 KJV
Please notice Paul’s comment in Romans 3. Salvation is to all that believe because all have sinned. Either salvation is obtainable to every single person for all have sinned, or, if Calvinism is true, salvation is to all the elect. Then only the elect have sinned. So the ones God condemns to hell are sinless?
“But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God” Romans 3:2123
Assurance
Calvinism teaches that some are predestined for salvation and others to hell and that outcome cannot be changed. If this were true, no one would know if he or she were saved until after death. That’s a scary thought; however, John says there is a way you can know for sure.
“These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” 1 John 5:13
Quotes of the Ancient Church Fathers
Justin Martyr, AD 165
Second Apology 7 – Man acts by his own free will and not by fate.
Tatian, AD 165
Greeks 7 – Jesus created men and angels with free will. Jesus had foreknowledge of what free agents would do. There is no such thing as fate.
Irenaeus, AD 177
Against Heresies 4.37 – God made man a free agent from the beginning. This is the ancient law of human liberty, for there is no coercion with God. In man, as well as in angels, He has placed the power of choice. The Gnostic teaching that some men are born good, and others are born bad, is wrong. Everyone has the power to reject the gospel. God has free will and we do, too, because we are made in His image. God preserved the will of man free and under his own control. We will be brought to perfection in the resurrection. Romans [8] refers to the church being predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ.
Irresistible Grace
Calvinist Definition WRONG
God will draw only those whom He elects for salvation with an irresistible grace. There is no way they can refuse. Those whom He refuses to draw are those whom He has chosen to unelect, or destined for hell, because if He did draw them they would all be saved and that would not please Him.
Arminian Definition CORRECT
God’s grace is resistible. God draws everyone by His grace. Those who respond will be granted eternal life and those who willfully choose not to respond to God’s free gift will be damned.
Pelagian Definition WRONG
God does not need any kind of grace to draw people. Each individual can come to the conclusion on their own and accept salvation.
BIBLICAL POSITION
The Holy Spirit draws men to Himself with grace.
“No man can come to Me, except the Father which hath sent Me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.” John 6:44
“All that the Father giveth Me shall come to Me; and him that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out… And this is the Father’s will which hath sent Me, that of all which He hath given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.” John 6:37, 39
But this drawing can be resisted.
“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!” Matthew 23:37 NKJV
If the Calvinists were right, no one would know who the elect were and who they were not. But the apostle John states believers can know for sure that they are saved.
“These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.” 1 John 5:13 NKJV
It is Satan who takes away the Word from the minds of the people so they would not accept Christ by believing the gospel and become saved. It is not God who forces this to happen. God’s grace is resistible.
“Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.” Luke 8:12
If grace cannot be resisted and God only selects a few, how can whole houses be saved just by believing?
“And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” Acts 16:31
Anyone who believes will be saved.
“That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” Romans 10:9-10
We are sealed by the Holy Spirit after we confess and believe. Belief starts the process; it is not a result of being forced into regeneration.
“In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise,” Ephesians 1:13
Quotes of the Ancient Church Fathers
“Man has the ability to distinguish good from evil. He has the power by his own free will to perform God’s commandments. This is taught in Romans [chapter 2]. God does not compel people to salvation, so those who have apostatized have done so through their own fault. God allows them to blind themselves.” Irenaeus, Against Heresies 4.39
“The ability to freely choose salvation is a gift given by God. True faith produces repentance.” Clement of Alexandria, Stromata 2.4
Perseverance of the Saints
Calvinist Definition WRONG
The elect will persevere in Calvinism and doing good works. However, some of the unelect will confess Calvinism and do good works also. Therefore, no one can know for sure if they are truly saved in this life. We have to wait and see.
Arminian Definition CORRECT
Every single person who truly believes the gospel message and accepts Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior will be saved.
Pelagian Definition WRONG
Anyone who is careful to never sin is assured eternal life. Those who have sinned will not know for sure until the resurrection.
Gnostic Definition WRONG
Certain individuals who have a spirit that is a direct creation or emanation of a god or goddess have eternal life abiding in them. They always have had, and always will have, eternal life.
We are secure in the salvation given to us in Christ Jesus. We cannot accidently lose it. We do not have to wait and see if we will obtain it. We have it right now. John says:
“These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” 1 John 5:13
The question then remains: how do we distinguish between those who are truly saved and those who just think they are? The Calvinist usually says it is by the fact that they endorse Calvinism and continue doing some form of good works. This is called the perseverance of the saints, which they get from Ephesians:
“Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints” Ephesians 6:18
But wait. There are good and bad people predestined for hell, and both godly and evil people predestined for heaven, according to the Calvinistic doctrine of unconditional election. So if Calvinism is true, there is no way anyone can know for sure he is saved. It’s very odd that Calvinists can state that it’s all by God’s grace, not by any works of man that we are saved. And yet they state we are the elect based on our good works!
Scripturally, we can know for sure we are saved:
“These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” 1 John 5:13
And we can tell we are saved by:
“But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” Matthew 24:13
Everyone who continues to believe Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior currently has, and is guaranteed to continue to have, eternal life. It’s by God’s grace and your exercising your free will.
“Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in Me.” John 15:4
Eternal Security
Some have erroneously thought that the Calvinistic doctrine of the Perseverance of the Saints is the same doctrine as the eternal security of the believer. This is the idea that a true believer cannot lose their salvation. While Calvinists must believe this because if a person cannot do anything about his salvation, and God chooses to force a person to be saved, then obviously you cannot do anything about losing it, either.
The non-Calvinists denominations are divided on the issue of whether or not people can lose their salvation. Compare the Baptists and the Holiness groups below.
BAPTIST DENOMINATIONS: no believer can walk away from being a member of the body of Christ and is therefore eternally secure in his or her salvation. HOLINESS DENOMINATIONS: each believer can walk away from being a member of the body of Christ and can therefore loose his or her salvation.
Both groups are non-Calvinists and both agree that no one is decreed to be saved based on anything other than God’s foreknowledge of who would accept the free gift of salvation and become a part of the body of Christ.
“Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.” James 2:17-18
James is saying a true believer who has eternal life abiding in him will show it by good works, which are defined as continuing to believe that Jesus is Lord and continuing to follow His commands.
“Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; by which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.” 1 Corinthians 15:1-2 KJV
Neo-Calvinists
Today there are groups of what is being termed Neo-Calvinists, who no longer teach that holiness and good works mark those who are saved, but they are saved because they say so and there is no need to practice a lifestyle of holiness to prove they are the elect. These people are often heard using curse words from the pulpit and admitting they indulge in sinful acts without remorse. This is the same result the predestination theology had among the Gnostic cults.
Quotes of the Ancient Church Fathers
Ignatius, 30-107 AD
Ephesians 14 – No man truly making a profession of faith sins; nor does he that possesses love, hate anyone. The tree is made manifest by its fruit; so those that profess themselves to be Christians shall be recognized by their conduct. For there is not now a demand for mere profession, but that a man be found continuing in the power of faith to the end.
Tertullian, AD 200
Valintians 1.29 – [Valentinus taught] some are not predestined to be saved, but predestined for hell, but the rest might be saved through works.
Valintians 1.30 – [Valentinus taught] those predestined for salvation do not need to practice good works.
Minor Points
These are points that should be considered in dealing with Calvinism but are not part of the main five doctrines of TULIP. I think knowing about these will help in any debates that Calvinists might bring up.
Predestination
Calvinist Definition WRONG
Certain individuals are predestined for salvation, based solely on God’s good pleasure. All others are damned to an eternal hell based solely on that same good pleasure of God.
Gnostic Definition WRONG
Certain individuals are predestined for salvation based solely on the fact that they are an emanation of a god or goddess. All others who are not a special creation of a god or goddess with a piece of that god or goddess in them, are destined to spend eternity in hell.
Arminian Definition CORRECT
The body of Christ as a whole is predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ. Each person who uses his free will to accept the free gift of salvation (which God draws him to by His grace and by the power of the Holy Spirit) will be saved, becoming a part of that predestined body of Christ.
Pelagian Definition WRONG
Since God is not willing that any perish and He has predestined the body of Christ to be saved, it follows then that all men are already members of the body of Christ. Hence every person that has ever lived is saved.
BIBLICAL POSITION
The Bible does use the word predestination; but, we need to define what the word means and not read into the text what is not there. The Calvinistic definition of predestination differs slightly from the Gnostic definition of predestination and a great deal from the Arminian / biblical definition of predestination.
The biblical position is that those who choose to accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior obtain salvation. In Romans, Paul teaches that in some sense God foreordained or predestined them to be saved. This predestination was based on God’s foreknowledge. See the chapter on foreknowledge for a complete definition. Here are the verses in Scripture that used the Greek word, proorizō, for predestination. I have underlined the words the KJV translates the Greek word as “predestinated” or “ordained.”
“For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He did predestinate, them He also called: and whom He called, them He also justified: and whom He justified, them He also glorified.” Romans 8:29-30 KJV
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, Ephesians 1:5
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of Him who worketh all things after the counsel of His own will: Ephesians 1:11
But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 1 Corinthians 2:7
The ancient church fathers called this Gnostic / Calvinistic concept of being sealed for salvation or damnation before you were even born, “fate.”
Quotes of the Ancient Church Fathers
Justin Martyr, AD 165
Second Apology 7 – Man acts by his own free will and not by fate.
Dialogue 141 –But if the word of God foretells that some angels and men shall be certainly punished, it did so because it foreknew that they would be unchangeably wicked, but not because God had created them so.
Irenaeus, AD 177
Against Heresies 4.39 – Man has the ability to distinguish good from evil. God does not compel people to salvation, so those who have apostatized have done so through their own fault. God allows them to blind themselves.
Tatian, AD 165
Greeks 7 – Jesus created men and angels with free will. Jesus had foreknowledge of what free agents would do. There is no such thing as fate.
Mathetes AD 130
Epistle to Diognetus 7 – Jesus, who is God come in the flesh, came to persuade, not compel us, to salvation because violence has no part in the character of God.
Foreknowledge
Calvinist Definition WRONG
God foreknew those few He wished to pick to save and give eternal life to, and those He wished to send to hell.
Arminian Definition CORRECT
God knows what will happen in the future, including each person’s choice to become a believer or to reject the gift of salvation. All believers, the whole body of Christ, will be saved. All the followers of other religions will not be saved.
BIBLICAL POSITION
God elects some to salvation based on His foreknowledge.
“For whom He did foreknow, He also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He did predestinate, them He also called: and whom He called, them He also justified: and whom He justified, them He also glorified. What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?” Romans 8:29-31
“And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.” Acts 13:48
Calvinists argue that individuals, not the body of Christ, are predestined for salvation. In order to do this they must redefine “foreknowledge” to mean not knowledge of a future “event” but intimate knowledge of a “person.” That would be the only way to prove that God does not elect people based on the “event,” the moment they accepted Jesus as their Savior. Calvinists say these individuals have no choice in the matter.
If it can be demonstrated that the first century church and secular society before, during, and after the first century used the word “foreknowledge” to mean the knowledge of a future event, and never used it in any other way, then Calvinism falls apart. Look at these Scriptures and you will see God in His foreknowledge predestined the body of Christ to salvation.
“God hath not cast away His people which He foreknew.” Romans 11:2
“Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, who by Him do believe in God, that raised Him up from the dead, and gave Him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.” 1 Peter 1:18-21
“Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: according as He hath chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in love: having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace, wherein He hath made us accepted in the beloved.” Ephesians 1:3-6
“Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.” 1 Peter 1:1-2
Calvinism bases its whole concept of foreknowledge on one verse in Scripture: Acts 2:23.
“Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:” Acts 2:23
The Greek of this passage is vague enough to mean either Jesus was delivered by the “council and foreknowledge” or by the “council which is the foreknowledge” of God. You will constantly hear Calvinists quote this verse and state that it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the word “foreknowledge” never referred to God or a prophet knowing an “event,” but knowing a “person.”
The Bible is full of examples of prophets predicting events like earthquakes, so foreknowledge is God knowing everything, including events and people. The following quotes from the ancient church fathers prove they believed God had foreknowledge of both people and events.
Quotes of the Ancient Church Fathers
Clement of Rome, AD 90
1 Clement 44 – Our apostles also knew, through our Lord Jesus Christ, that there would be strife on account of the office of the Episcopate. For this reason, therefore, inasmuch as they had obtained a perfect foreknowledge of this, they appointed those [ministers] already mentioned, and afterwards gave instructions, that when these should fall asleep, other approved men should succeed them in their ministry.
Justin Martyr, AD165
Dialogue with Trypho 35 – So that, in consequence of these events, we know that Jesus foreknew what would happen after Him, as well as in consequence of many other events which He foretold would befall those who believed on and confessed Him, the Christ.
Dialogue with Trypho 42 – I can demonstrate that they were types, and symbols, and declarations of those things which would happen to Christ, of those who it was foreknown were to believe in Him, and of those things which would also be done by Christ Himself. Dialogue with Trypho 70 – The people foreknown to believe in Him were foreknown to pursue diligently the fear of the Lord.
Dialogue with Trypho 82 – We know that He foreknew all that would happen to us after His resurrection.
Irenaeus, AD 177
Against Heresies 2.32.1 – [Christians] have foreknowledge of things to come: they see visions, and utter prophetic expressions.
Against Heresies 4.29 – God only blinds the minds of those who chose not to believe and have already rejected Him. In Romans [1], those who would not retain God in their knowledge He gave them over to a reprobate mind. In 2 Thessalonians [2], strong delusion is sent to them so they will believe the lie. God knows the number of those who will not believe, since He foreknows all things, and has given them over to unbelief. God has foreknowledge of all things.
Tatian, AD 166
Greeks 7 – Jesus created men and angels with free will. Jesus had foreknowledge of what free agents would do. There is no such thing as fate.
Clement of Alexandria, AD 190
Instructor 9 – [Jesus shows] His divinity in His foreknowledge of what would take place.
Stromata 12 – Again, prophecy is foreknowledge; and knowledge, the understanding of prophecy; being the knowledge of those things known before by the Lord who reveals all things.
Stromata 6:8 – The disciple of wisdom foreknows signs and omens, and the issues of seasons and of times.
Origen, AD 240
Of First Principles 3:13 – [God] knows the secret things of the heart, and foreknows the future.
This is what I mean when I talk about “early” and “late” Spurgeon.
When Spurgeon was a young pastor, taking over the now-famous New Park Street Chapel at just 19 years old, he could speak about Calvinism with remarkable certainty. At 22, he famously said:
“Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else.”
Two years later, at 24, he could say:
“A mutable god may be the god for the Arminian—he is not the god for me.”
But something changed as Spurgeon grew older.
As he matured in his faith, spent years shepherding a congregation, and rubbed shoulders with actual people in the pews, his language became considerably more nuanced. He didn’t simply abandon Calvinism, but he became increasingly unwilling to force every biblical text into a theological system.
At 28, he put it this way:
“There is some truth in Calvinism and some in Arminianism, and he who would hold the whole Truth of God must neither be cramped by the one system nor bound by the other, but take Truth wherever he can find it in the Bible.”
That is a significant change from the young Spurgeon who could confidently declare, “Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else.”
And Spurgeon continued moving in this direction.
“Preaching Like an Arminian, but Sleeping as a Calvinist”
By 1876, at the age of 42, Spurgeon reflected on the long-running debate between Calvinists and Arminians and acknowledged that both sides had captured important truths—and that both sides had also fallen into error.
He wrote:
“There has long been a great doctrinal discussion between the Calvinists and the Arminians upon many important points. I am myself persuaded that the Calvinist alone is right upon some points, and the Arminian alone is right upon others. There is a great deal of truth in the positive side of both systems, and a great deal of error in the negative side of both.”
Then he made the point even more plainly:
“If I was asked, ‘Why is a man damned?’ I should answer as an Arminian answers, ‘He destroys himself.’”
This is the Spurgeon I have in mind when I distinguish between early and late Spurgeon. The one who said in an 1863 sermon The Minister’s Stock-Taking contains language that sounds remarkably different from his 1858 rhetoric:
“Do I hear some one say, ‘Why, that is Arminianism!’ Precisely so.”
The older Spurgeon was still unmistakably Calvinistic in many respects, but he was increasingly uncomfortable with the idea that every biblical statement had to conform neatly to either the Calvinist or Arminian system.
“An Arminian Calvinist or a Calvinistic Arminian”
By 1881, Spurgeon was 47 years old, and his position had become even more explicit.
He had been called both “an Arminian Calvinist” and “a Calvinistic Arminian”—and, rather remarkably, he didn’t seem particularly bothered by either label.
Instead, his concern was whether his theology remained faithful to Scripture.
“What a host of revised versions we have! Everybody has one of his own. Certain texts which will not fit into our system must be planed and cut down. Have you ever seen the hard work that some Brethren have to shape a Scripture to their mind? One text is not Calvinistic, it looks rather Arminian—of course it cannot be so and, therefore, they twist and tug to get it right. As for our Arminian Brethren, it is wonderful to see how they hammer away at the 9th Chapter of Romans—steam-hammers and screw-jacks are nothing to their appliances for getting rid of Election from that chapter! We have all been guilty of racking Scripture, more or less, and it will be well to have done with the evil, forever! We had far better be inconsistent with ourselves than with the Inspired Word of God.”
And then Spurgeon gives us the key to understanding the whole progression:
“I have been called an Arminian Calvinist or a Calvinistic Arminian and I am quite content so long as I can keep close to my Bible. I desire to preach what I find in this Book whether I find it in anybody else’s book or not.”
That, to me, is the crucial distinction.
The question isn’t whether Spurgeon remained a Calvinist. Clearly, much of his theology remained deeply Calvinistic. The more interesting question is whether the later Spurgeon was willing to let Scripture challenge the boundaries of his theological system.
And by his own words, the answer appears to be yes.
He would rather be “inconsistent” with his theological system than inconsistent with the inspired Word of God.
UPDATED THOUGHT via a quote
I came across this quote of Spurgeon…. and so I asked GROK when this quote was in Spurgeon’s life. [As an aside, I will fix it at the end.]
Here is GROK’S input:
Around 1850 (when he was about 15–16), as a personal reflection on his conversion and early embrace of the doctrines of grace; the written form comes from his later autobiographical chapter “A Defense of Calvinism.”
The exact wording in your image is from Charles Spurgeon’s Autobiography (Volume 1, covering 1834–1854), specifically the chapter titled “A Defense of Calvinism.” In it, he recounts how he came to believe the doctrine of election after his conversion. He writes that he was “born… an Arminian” by nature, initially thought he was seeking God on his own, and then realized God must have been at work first: “I believe the doctrine of election, because I am quite certain that, if God had not chosen me, I should never have chosen Him; and I am sure He chose me before I was born, or else He never would have chosen me afterwards; and He must have elected me for reasons unknown to me, for I never could find any reason in myself why He should have looked upon me with special love.”
Spurgeon was born on June 19, 1834.
He was converted in January 1850 (age 15) in a Primitive Methodist chapel in Colchester during a snowstorm, after hearing a sermon on Isaiah 45:22.
The chapter places these reflections in the period right after that conversion and his early steps into the doctrines of grace (still in his mid-to-late teens). Volume 1 of the autobiography covers through 1854, when he was about 20 and beginning his London ministry.
He began writing autobiographical material in later years (mainly during quieter periods at Mentone in the 1880s). The full Autobiography was compiled after his death (1892) by his wife Susannah and his secretary Joseph Harrald and published starting in 1897–1898. So the quote is his mature reflection on convictions he formed as a teenager, not a dated public sermon from a single year.
One secondary source incorrectly links a similar phrasing to a 1855 New Park Street sermon on election, but the precise wording matches the autobiography chapter. Spurgeon expressed parallel ideas about election in early sermons (such as the September 2, 1855 sermon on 2 Thessalonians 2:13–14), but the full personal statement in the image is from the autobiography.
As the first part of this post notes, in similar fashion to Augustine changing his mind on things later in his like…
From an old earth/creation view to a very young age of creation (Here)
Arguing against his past Gnostic origins to inserting them into church dogma (Here , Here, and Here)
… Spurgeon likewise tempered his early “Cage-Stagism” with coming to change his mind on certain topics as he matured in the faith. He changed his views on a few key points… not Roman’s 9, but who knows if he had lived longer. His main point from the end of his career was:
Don’t defend Calvinism at the expense of Scripture. Don’t defend Arminianism at the expense of Scripture. Don’t defend Provisionism at the expense of Scripture. Defend what Scripture actually says, even when it makes your theological system uncomfortable.
At least he has a proper understanding of election now.
I wanted to go through these referenced sources and summarize them and reproduce portions of the manuscript. Here are the sources:
THE CORE CONNECTIONS & ACCUSATIONS
Augustine’s Background: Critics point to Augustine of Hippo’s approximately nine years of involvement with Manichaeism, a religious movement with dualistic teachings, before his conversion to Christianity. Because Augustine’s writings significantly influenced John Calvin and later Reformed theology, critics question whether aspects of his earlier worldview influenced his understanding of sin and human nature. [1, 2]
Total Inability / Total Depravity: Manichaeism presented a deeply dualistic understanding of good and evil and the human condition. Critics argue that Calvinism’s doctrine of total inability—the “T” in TULIP, which teaches that fallen humanity cannot come to faith apart from God’s enabling grace—resembles this pessimistic view of human nature. [1, 2, 3, 4]
The Material World and the Flesh: Gnostic movements often viewed the material world as inferior, corrupt, or even evil, although Gnostic beliefs varied. Critics argue that Augustine’s teachings concerning original sin, its transmission through human generation, and the effects of sexual desire reflect a similar pessimism about embodied human existence. They further contend that aspects of this outlook carried into later Reformed theology. [1, 2]
Today I want to deal with the first bullet point — “Augustine’s Background,” source #2 — I say TODAYbecause I want to open up some of those resources for a better deep dive, of which this is the first. I will try to offer some of the mentioned resources highlighted in the videos and partial transcripts in the videos or summaries.
Discussed as an accessible version of Wilson’s Oxford doctoral dissertation, examining the historical roots of Augustinian Calvinism.
Why I’m Not an Arminian
Robert A. Peterson and Michael D. Williams
Cited by Leighton Flowers as a book by two Calvinist professors that acknowledges a difference between Augustine’s monergistic doctrine of grace and the tendencies of the Apostolic Fathers.
Important spelling correction: The transcript’s automatic transcription says “Why I’m Not an Armenian.” The intended title is Why I’m Not an Arminian.
Historical sources mentioned
Herman Bavinck — Mentioned as a Calvinist theologian whose writings are invoked in the discussion.
Lorraine Boettner — Mentioned as a Reformed historical and theological source. The transcript renders the name as “Buttner” or “Betner”; the likely intended author is Lorraine Boettner.
The Apostolic Fathers — Early Christian writers whose views on human nature, free will, and salvation are discussed through the quotation from Peterson and Williams.
Augustine of Hippo — His writings and theological development are the central historical subject.
John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion — Explicitly mentioned as a work in which Calvin cites Augustine extensively.
Partial Transcript:
Leighton Flowers
There’s also the book Why I’m Not an Armenian by two Calvinistic professors. They write, the semi-Pelagians were convinced that Augustine’s monergistic emphasis upon salvation by grace alone represented a significant departure from the traditional teaching of the church. They say, quote, and a survey of the thought of the Apostolic Father shows that their argument is valid.
From Calvinist scholars Robert A. Peterson and Michael D. Williams, Why I Am Not An Arminian, p. 39 (pages 35-41 quoted at the bottom):
Does the antipathy between Calvinism and Arminianism suggest that Pelagius, the arch-opposite of Augustine, is the proper ancestor of Arminianism? Calvinists have often sought to paint Arminianism in Pelagian colors. Associating your opponent with a position that the historic faith has repeatedly judged heretical can only help one’s cause. However, the allegation that Arminianism is Pelagian is unfortunate and indeed unwarranted. From Jacob Arminius and the ‘Remonstrance Articles’ on, the Arminian tradition has affirmed the corruption of the will by sin and the necessity of grace for redemption. Arminianism is not Pelagianism….The Semi-Pelagians thought of salvation as beginning with human beings. We must first seek God; and his grace is a response to that seeking. The Arminians of the seventeenth century, however, held that the human will has been so corrupted by sin that a person cannot seek grace without the enablement of grace. They therefore affirmed the necessity and priority of grace in redemption. Grace must go before a person’s response to the gospel. This suggests that Arminianism is closer to Semi-Augustinianism than it is to Semi-Pelagianism or Pelagianism.
Ruslan KD
Ruslan. Let’s talk about this idea of Gnosticism. You had a video up about Augustine, who’s the father of Calvinism. Augustine is who influenced John Calvin and Edwards and Martin Luther, who then influenced a lot of Charles Spurgeon and a lot of our guys today.
You could trace it all back to this gentleman named Augustine, who was a great thinker and a philosopher and all these amazing things. What people don’t know is that He came from a Gnostic background and that then impacted some of his views that you said were not there with the majority of Christians prior to Augustine.
So can you break down what Gnosticism is briefly and how it impacted some of Augustine’s views? Because I have a very specific segue that I deal with all the time with people in my community.
Can you give us just a brief breakdown of what Gnosticism is, how it impacted Augustine, how then that impacted John Calvin and Calvin?
Leighton Flowers
Saying what is Gnosticism can take some time because there’s a lot of different kinds of Gnosticism. Manichean Gnosticism, Manicheanism was the most predominant Gnostic group that many people would have heard of. And it was in particular what Augustine was for 10 years of his life. He was a Manichean Gnostic.
And Manicheanism is very, very different than Christian theology, but there are some similarities. And there are writings from the Manichaeans where they use many of the same proof texts like John 6.44 and other texts like that in order to demonstrate what they believe with regard to total inability.
In other words, one of the things they do teach, they have more of a dualistic view that there’s a good God and a bad God, an evil God and a good God. And they have a lot of different things that are not not like Christianity at all, but one of the things that’s similar to at least Calvinistic Christianity is that they believe that when we’re born, we’re born in a completely evil state and that we’re completely incapable of doing anything without a divine influence.
Ruslan KD
Sounds a lot like total depravity.
Leighton Flowers
Exactly. And so the argument is that this concept of total inability really did not originate within the Bible or early church teachings, but in a more Gnostic or Manichean philosophy of theistic determinism. Now that’s the argument.
But what’s interesting is if you even study John Calvin, he even says that the early church writings, he says they extol the powers of the human will. He says save the exception of Augustine, he said, are confused and they’re vacillating, they’re contradictory, and they extol the powers of the free will of man.
In other words, John Calvin, he wants to validate himself. His doctrines, he wants to make sure people believe them. And oftentimes, especially in that day of the Reformation, you would be reaching back to orthodoxy in order to establish your views as orthodox and as viable. And so he quoted from Augustine over 4,000 times in the Institutes of the Christian Religion.
And he admits, he says the early church writers, all the other early church writers prior to Augustine and even Augustine in his earliest writings, when he first converted out of Manichaeanism into Christianity for the first part of his Christian life, he did teach a doctrine of free will like you and I might believe it.
But only after many years and then eventually a debate with Pelagius does he begin to swing back, we believe, back into a more deterministic, philosophical way of thinking, and he begins to use some of the same arguments that you hear Manichaeans make.
Interesting, I recommend people read Ken Wilson on this particular subject. He’s taken his Oxford doctoral dissertation and made it into a smaller layman book that’s easier to approach than the one with seven different languages in it, and that’s huge.
And at our request, in fact, He was so gracious to do this, but at our request, he actually took his doctoral dissertation and broke it down to the basics and put it all into easy to approach, more English accessible. And it’s called the Foundations of Augustinian Calvinism.
And it really does kind of break down the roots of this and really goes through scholar after scholar after scholar who’s come to the same conclusion. And that’s what’s interesting about this. is not, you know, Leighton Flowers, the, you know, anti-Calvinist saying these things.
We’ve got quotes from Bavinck, Henry Herman Bavinck, who’s a well-known Calvinist, Lorraine Buttner, who is a well-known historical historian from the Calvinist. Matter of fact, Betner is the guy who made Tulip, the Across the Tulip, famous.
There’s also the book, Why I’m Not an Armenian, by two Calvinistic professors from Covenant Theological Seminary, Dr. Robert Peterson and Michael Williams. And they write this, they write, the semi-Pelagians were convinced, and semi-Pelagian is a pejorative term, we wouldn’t like that term, but that’s what they call us oftentimes, semi-Pelagians.
The semi-Pelagians were convinced that Augustine’s monergistic emphasis upon salvation by grace alone represented a significant departure from the traditional teaching of the church. So notice what they’re saying. They’re saying that Augustine, the accusation from semi-Pelagians is that Augustine took a significant departure from the early church.
And they say, quote, and a survey of the thought of the apostolic fathers shows that their argument is valid. In comparison to Augustine’s monergistic doctrine of grace, the teachings of the apostolic fathers tended toward a synergistic view of redemption, end quote.
In other words, I could read you about a dozen quotes here from Calvinist sources, not Armenian sources or provisional sources from actual Calvinistic historians who are intellectually honest enough to say, yeah, really Augustine is the first one on record to really begin to teach these doctrines.
And that’s just the fact of the matter. And it is a fact of the matter that he was influenced by Stoicism, Neoplatonism, and Manichean Gnosticism. That’s just a fact of the matter. That’s a part of his testimony. It’s on record. It’s not a disputable matter.
And so I think many of the scholars who know what they’re talking about realize that Augustine really is the first one to systematize and to teach more Calvinistic theology in the church.
Ruslan KD
That’s interesting. So here is where the logical conclusion of some of that goes. If he then elevates how evil man is and makes man just utterly evil. And you’re saying this doctrine isn’t found in the early church. We don’t see any of the other church fathers who believe them.
And if man is super duper, utterly sinful, hates God this whole bit, well then the material world, which is what also Gnosticism believes, the material world, the physical world is also evil. And everything here is evil and everything here is bad. And so you get saved. God could have just zapped you straight to heaven, but he kind of just leaves you on earth to suffer for a while with all these other filthy humans that he may elect or not elect.
This becomes extremely problematic when it again goes back to my heart for people is, hey, I want people to live out Matthew 25. I want people to live out the parable of the talents, the taking care of the least of these, having an amazing marriage, a godly marriage, a godly family. honoring God with your time, talent, and treasure, this becomes disconnected and incompatible when the worldview is people are utterly evil, humans are utterly evil, the world’s all evil, everyone’s evil, everything’s evil, the material is evil, the physical is evil.
So then, man, should I take that promotion at my job so that I can get my family out of this two-bedroom apartment? Because we’re crammed in here. I literally had somebody ask me this at a Bible study. We’re crammed into this little itty bitty place with two bedrooms. We got four kids. But is it evil? Is it my flesh to take this promotion? Because I don’t know. I mean, does God want me to have influence at my job and have a promotion?
And I’m like, bro, there’s certain things you don’t need to pray about. Your family’s hurting because you’re crammed into into this freaking small apartment, take the promotion and honor your family, right?
And begin, this is seeped into almost every denominational camp has this very low view of the material world of the physical world, forgetting that Jesus comes into the material world in material form as a baby.
I have a four week old, a four week old. She can’t do anything. She just lays there, right? She just lays there. We got to move her. We got to, she got to clean her. Jesus comes as a human, as a baby, and has to be cared for a minute before he could do anything. in the material physical world,
and so many Christians are caught up in this idea of the material physical world that escalates to this persecution complex. Everyone’s out to get me. I’m A Christian victim. The world’s all bad. It’s all evil. What’s the point of honoring God with my time, talent and treasure? What’s the point of taking care of my body? And then it literally just becomes fatalism. Like, well, what’s the point? It’s just all going to hell. It doesn’t make any sense.
And I think this is a vast heresy that is, I mean, every camp, whether you’re Pentecostal, Calvinistic, whatever, has this very low view of the physical material world, has this very low view of the Imago Dean people, has this very low view of our time, talent, and treasure on this side of eternity.
And it’s very frustrating because I deal with it all the time. So I want to hear your thoughts on some of this. And am I seeing the connection from Calvin to Augustine to Gnosticism? Do I see that connection? Is it as connected as I’m making it out to be? What are your thoughts, Doctor?
Leighton Flowers
I mean, there are some aspects of what you’re talking about that I would definitely see as some connection points. I call it worm theology, where no matter what is said in the Bible about us being created in the image of God and all the good things that God says about his creation and it being good, that some people will overemphasize the evil of man and how unworthy and our worthlessness of man.
And there’s a balance. There’s always a biblical balance between the extremes. You’ve got the extreme on the one side is just saying we’re all really good people and nobody’s really bad. And everybody’s basically good. You got that side, which a lot of the world is more in that camp.
You got the other side, the worm theology guys that we’re absolutely viper and diapers. We’re just horrible and nothing good whatsoever. we’re just worthless, all these kinds of things.
And I think that the balance is in the middle of those two things, where we obviously have worth in Christ and that we are created in his image and we are image bearers of the divine. Therefore, God doesn’t make junk. We don’t want to criticize that which God has created because it’s his.
Now, we can’t also underemphasize the impact of sin and corruption in this world. And sometimes we’re accused of doing that, but that’s usually by people who haven’t heard us out and really understood what we’re saying.
Because like I said from the very beginning of this interview with you, we’re in bondage to sin. We’re in enmity with God. We have horrible corruption, but the gospel is sufficient. That’s the good news.
All of the bad news is just as bad on our view as it is on Calvinism. It’s just that we believe that the gospel is sufficient for those who are in that condition.
And whereas the Calvinist says the gospel is not sufficient for the world, that it has to, really what’s sufficient is irresistible grace, this effectual regeneration that is only for some people and not for everyone. And that’s not good news as far as I can tell. That doesn’t seem like very good news.
It’s just It’s just, hey, if you won the divine lottery, so to speak, and I know that sounds pejorative and that’s a bad way to put it, but it’s kind of what it boils down to. It’s like, we don’t know why God picked some people and not others. He just, he picked some people and not others. And if you happen to be one of the blessed ones that got picked, then he’s going to grace you with this miracle of faith to cause you to believe.
I just don’t see this as the tenor of scripture. Instead, what I see within scripture is the good news is yes, we’re all fallen, we’re broken, we’re sinful, we’re depraved, we’ve gone our own ways.
And therefore, what is our only hope? Our only hope is to turn to the Lord so as to be saved. And he has provided a way of salvation for every man, woman, boy, and girl that no one perishes for lack of atonement. No one perishes because they’re rejected by their God. Anyone and everyone can be saved. And that’s what we want to try to highlight.
The book excerpt I mentioned by two Calvinist professors that acknowledges a difference between Augustine’s monergistic doctrine of grace and the tendencies of the Apostolic Fathers will follow these quotes.
BTW, other Calvinists agree with professors Peterson and Williams, which is to say they agree that Augustine introduced something new into the church previously not found in the early Fathers. [RPT and other will add: actually, it existed, but in Gnosticism.]
Herman Bavinck:
In the early church, at a time when it had to contend with pagan fatalism and gnostic naturalism, its representatives focused exclusively on the moral nature, freedom, and responsibility of humans and could not do justice, therefore, to the teaching of Scripture concerning the counsel of God. Though humans had been more or less corrupted by sin, they remained free and were able to accept the proffered grace of God. The church’s teaching did not include a doctrine of absolute predestination and irresistible grace.
Loraine Boettner:
“It may occasion some surprise to discover that the doctrine of Predestination was not made a matter of special study until near the end of the fourth century….They of course taught that salvation was through Christ; yet they assumed that man had full power to accept or reject the gospel. Some of their writings contain passages in which the sovereignty of God is recognized; yet along side of those are others which teach the absolute freedom of the human will. Since they could not reconcile the two they would have denied the doctrine of Predestination… They taught a kind of synergism in which there was a co-operation between grace and free … this cardinal truth of Christianity was first clearly seen by Augustine…“
Robert Peterson and Michael Williams of Covenant Theological Seminary:
“The Semi-Pelagians were convinced that Augustine’s monergistic emphasis upon salvation by grace alone represented a significant departure from the traditional teaching of the church. And a survey of the thought of the apostolic father’s shows that the argument is valid… In comparison to Augustine’s monergistic doctrine of grace, the teachings of the apostolic fathers tended toward a synergistic view of redemption” (36).
Louis Berkhof [in The History of Christian Doctrines]:
“Their representations are naturally rather indefinite, imperfect, and incomplete, and sometimes even erroneous and self-contradictory. Says Kahnis: “It stands as an assured fact, a fact knowing no exceptions, and acknowledged by all well versed in the matter, that all of the pre-Augustinian Fathers taught that in the appropriation of salvation there is a co-working of freedom and grace.”
Berkhof goes on to admit that “they do not hold to an entire corruption of the human will, and consequently adhere to the synergistic theory of regeneration…” (130).
Alister E. McGrath, Historical Theology: An Introduction to the History of Christian Thought (Malden, MA: Wiley & Sons LTD, 2013), 34.
One aspect of Augustine’s understanding of grace needs further comment. As human beings were incapable of saving themselves, and as God gave his gift of grace to some (but not all), it followed that God had “preselected” those who would be saved. Developing hints of this idea to be found in the New Testament, Augustine developed a doctrine of predestination. The term “predestination” refers to God’s original or eternal decision to save some, and not others. It was this aspect of Augustine’s thought which many of his contemporaries, not to mention his successors, found unacceptable. It need hardly be said that there is no direct equivalent in Pelagius’s thought.
Here is that excerpt…
Robert A. Peterson and Michael D. Williams, Why I Am Not an Arminian (Downers Grove, IL: InterVarsity Press, 2004), 35–41.
Although Pelagius was condemned by the bishop of Rome in 417 and then after his death by the Council of Ephesus in 431, he certainly did not set out to be a heretic. Bernhard Lohse makes the point that Pelagius’s intent was “to elevate the difficult ascetic demands which were then permeating monasticism to a position of a fundamental principle for all Christians.” While Pelagius’s inordinately low view of sin and grace might—and should—strike us as scandalous and indeed heretical, Lohse does not exaggerate when he notes that “there is hardly an opinion” in Pelagius’s teaching on sin and grace “for which some confirmation could not be found among the earlier fathers of the church.” Indeed, one could easily argue that it was Augustine, not Pelagius, who was out of step with the tradition of the church.
The generation after Augustine and Pelagius would give birth to the Semi-Pelagian movement. Monks like John Cassian and Vincent of Lérins agreed with Augustine regarding the seriousness of sin, yet they objected to his ideas of the total and disabling bondage of the will to sin, the irresistible power of grace and predestination as predicated upon a particular election. In 434 Vincent of Lérins wrote the Commonitory, which contained both a polemic against Augustine’s doctrine of grace as a dangerous innovation and a description of the Catholic principle of tradition that would become normative for the church. The Augustinian understanding of sin and grace, said Vincent, is contrary to the ancient tradition of the church, “that faith which has been believed everywhere, always, by all. For that is truly and in the strictest sense ‘Catholic,’ which, as the name itself and the reason of the thing declare, comprehends all universality.”[1]
The Semi-Pelagians were convinced that Augustine’s monergistic emphasis upon salvation by grace alone represented a significant departure from the traditional teaching of the church. And a survey of the thought of the apostolic fathers shows that the argument is valid.
While affirming the necessity of grace for salvation, early Christian theological reflection tended to be highly moralistic and even legalistic, emphasizing a view of the Christian life that focused more on conduct—often expressed as rigorous prescription—rather than grace, faith or forgiveness. In comparison to Augustine’s monergistic doctrine of grace, the teachings of the apostolic fathers tended toward a synergistic view of redemption. For them, salvation is the result of a working together of divine grace and human agency. Human beings are fallen such that they need divine help, but that help cooperates with our own striving toward God and the moral life. The synergism in pre-Augustinian thought held that divine grace is necessary for salvation but that our salvation is as much the product of the exercise of human free will and obedience to the law of God as of grace.
The Semi-Pelagian monastics affirmed the free will and ability of human beings. Yet they were far removed from the humanistic monergism of Pelagius. The Semi-Pelagians insisted that human beings cannot be saved apart from the supernatural assisting grace of God. But the fallen human will is not held in bondage to sin; it is not completely disabled by sinful corruption. Human beings can, unaided by grace, take the first step toward salvation. John Cassian held that human nature is weakened but not disabled by sin; we are fallen but able, fallen enough that we need help, but not so fallen that we cannot contribute to our own recovery. Cassian wrote, “And when He [God] sees in us some beginnings of a good will, He at once enlightens it and strengthens it and urges it on towards salvation, increasing that which He Himself implanted or which He sees to have arisen from our own efforts.”[2]In Semi-Pelagian synergism, human beings are the initiators of faith. Grace is responsive to our search for God and the good. God helps those who help themselves.
Throughout the fifth and early sixth centuries, the Augustinians and the Semi-Pelagians continued their debate, until the bishops met in 529 at the Synod of Orange to seek a resolution of the controversy. Even a century after his death, Augustine’s influence was so great that the synod sought to expunge any lingering strands of Pelagianism within the church. This does not mean, however, that the bishops affirmed Augustine’s teaching in its entirety. Somewhat inconsistently, they affirmed the doctrine of original sin and Augustine’s teaching on the bondage of the will, but they failed to affirm the doctrine of predestination. They argued that the freedom of the will has been destroyed by sin such that the only thing inherent in fallen humankind is “untruth and sin.”[3]Faith is not initiated by human beings and then completed by divine grace so that God’s work is dependent upon people. Rather, faith begins in the illuminating work and infused presence of the Holy Spirit, which “precedes” and “enables” human beings’ response to grace.[4]Much of the language of the Canons of the Council of Orange was taken directly from the works of Augustine. For example, using a citation from Augustine himself, the canons rejected the Pelagian charge that Augustine’s teaching was deterministic: “Men do their own will and not the will of God when they do what displeases him; but when they follow their own will and comply with the will of God, however willingly they do so, yet it is his will by which what they will is both prepared and instructed.”[5]
Any goodness or righteousness that humankind displays is the result of God’s grace working in them. But this should not be taken as evidence that the Synod of Orange affirmed Augustine’s gracious monergism. The synod softened the Augustinian teaching into a gracious synergism. First, as stated above, the synod did not endorse predestination. The canons explicitly reject predestination to damnation,[6] but they are completely silent concerning predestination to redemption. Second, while the synod insisted that the initiation of faith begins with the work of grace, it suggested that human agency cooperates with the divine in order to produce redemption. This synergism is subtly but crucially different from that of the Semi-Pelagians. While both see redemption as the product of both divine grace and human effort, the Semi-Pelagians depict redemption as beginning with human agency. The Semi-Augustinian synergism of Orange reversed the sequence. Hence, a person’s contribution to salvation is faithful response to the grace of God. Grace is prevenient here in that it precedes human response.
Nevertheless, there is a problem with the conclusions of the synod. If faith is a gift of God in that the seeds of faith are found in a grace that precedes the actual expression of faith in the responsive heart, and if grace must be given to people enabling them to respond (for a person cannot take the first step toward God), how does one account for the fact that not all respond in faith to the gospel? It seems that the bishops at Orange sought to escape having to address this question.
While the synod held that divine grace is necessary unto faith, its refusal to affirm the particularism of Augustine’s doctrine of predestination seems to be an implicit affirmation of universal preceding grace. That is, universal repairing and enabling grace is given to all, but each person must obediently respond to the illuminating work of the Holy Spirit in order to be saved.
Where Do Calvinism and Arminianism Fit?
The Calvinist understanding of the doctrines of sin and redemption closely conforms to Augustine’s gracious monergism. Redemption is utterly the work of grace. Does the antipathy between Calvinism and Arminianism suggest that Pelagius, the arch-opposite of Augustine, is the proper ancestor of Arminianism? Calvinists have often sought to paint Arminianism in Pelagian colors. Associating your opponent with a position that the historic faith has repeatedly judged heretical can only help one’s cause. However, the allegation that Arminianism is Pelagian is unfortunate and indeed unwarranted. From Jacob Arminius and the “Remonstrant Articles” on, the Arminian tradition has affirmed the corruption of the will by sin and the necessity of grace for redemption. Arminianism is not Pelagian.
If Arminianism cannot be traced back to Pelagius, perhaps the Semi-Pelagianism of John Cassian and Vincent of Lérins is the ancestor of Arminianism. Both Semi-Pelagianism and Arminianism insist upon a synergistic view of redemption. A person’s salvation is the result of two agencies: (1) God’s grace and (2) human faith and obedience. But here again, there are important dissimilarities. The Semi-Pelagians thought of salvation as beginning with human beings. We must first seek God; and his grace is a response to that seeking. The Arminians of the seventeenth century, however, held that the human will has been so corrupted by sin that a person cannot seek grace without the enablement of grace. They therefore affirmed the necessity and priority of grace in redemption. Grace must go before a person’s response to the gospel. This suggests that Arminianism is closer to Semi-Augustinianism than it is to Semi-Pelagianism or Pelagianism. The word Pelagian as a description of Arminians—or Roman Catholics for that matter—does them an injustice because it associates them with a theological tradition that is truly heretical in that Pelagius trivialized grace, and in so doing trivialized the work of Christ. Both the Semi-Augustinians of the fifth and sixth centuries and the Arminians of the seventeenth century sought understandings of sin and redemption that were qualifications of Augustinianism. Semi-Augustinianism was not a Pelagianism that had moved toward Augustine but rather a softening of Augustinianism that sought to modify or excise elements of Augustine’s teaching that were found offensive (particularist election and a doctrine of divine agency that seemed to render human agency irrelevant). As Arminianism began as a reaction to the Augustinian commitments of the Reformed churches and reacted negatively to much the same issues as had the Semi-Augustinians, Arminianism is properly understood as Semi-Augustinianism.
Yet we should appreciate the reality that the four positions sketched here as coming out of the Augustinian-Pelagian controversy of the fifth century do not exhaust the list of possible ways that sin and redemption can be understood or the ways in which divine agency can be thought of as relating to human action and decision making. Yes, Augustinianism (salvation is all of God’s grace) and Pelagianism (salvation is the product of human achievement) do seem to mark the polar extremes. But what lies between might be more of a continuum than a few discrete points. Between the two monergistic poles is the admixture, the synergism of dual agency in redemption. The realization of a continuum of beliefs may help us understand something of the diversity of belief within a tradition.
In 529 the Synod of Orange declared Semi-Pelagianism a heresy and declared a form of Augustinianism to be the official teaching of the Roman Church. Yet the emphasis upon the cooperation of human agency in redemption left a space for Semi-Pelagian ideas to flourish in popular belief. Even though the synod did not affirm a doctrine of meritorious works and insisted that God’s grace is the sole efficient cause of salvation, a Semi-Pelagian—and often an outright Pelagian—view of human agency would dominate in common folk belief. Indeed, the customs and structures that arose within the medieval Roman Church would lean toward a view of Christianity as a religion of performance, merit and obligatory rite. Something quite similar seems to exist within the Arminian tradition. Popular Arminian writing often tends to be so dismissive of anything that might qualify “libertarian free will” that it gives itself over to a moralist and meritorious doctrine of redemption. Redemption is offered by God, but we must earn it. This is, of course, the very danger that the Calvinist sees in all synergistic understandings of redemption.
But we Calvinists have our own version of popular or folk belief as well. If Arminian popular belief tends toward the overestimation of human ability and the redemptive contribution of human achievement, Calvinist popular belief often seems to overemphasize its redemptive monergism. We seek to out-Augustine Augustine. If a little monergism is good, more is better. As a result, we make God the sole cause of all things, sin as well as grace, unbelief as well as belief. And human beings do become mere pawns or actors walking through the scenery of their lives.
The Augustine-Pelagius controversy is our first monumental historical event. This controversy sets the stage for the following two chapters, which focus on issues keenly debated by Augustine and Pelagius and still disputed today: predestination and the perseverance of the saints.
NOTES
[1]Vincent of Lérins Commonitory for the Antiquity and Universality of the Catholic Faith Against the Profane Novelties of All Heresies 2.6.
[2]Quoted in Olson, Story of Christian Theology, p. 283.
[3]Canons of the Council of Orange, para. 1-2, 13, 22.
John 15:16 says, “You did not choose me, but I chose you…” Does this teach the the doctrine of divine election? Albert Mohler says yes, but James White says no. Who is correct. Let’s discuss… (More at Election According to Jesus)
Here is the Calvinist/TULIP/Reformed reading
John 15:14–19 — The “Calvinized” Reading
What happens when we take Jesus’ words to His disciples and read them as though He were directly explaining the Calvinistic doctrine of unconditional individual election to a modern Reformed believer?
14 “You are my friends if you do what I command you.”
[MODERN REFORMED BELIEVER]: I am one of Christ’s elect, and my obedience demonstrates that I am truly regenerated and therefore one of His genuine believers.
15 “I do not call you servants anymore, because a servant doesn’t know what his master is doing. I have called you friends, because I have made known to you everything I have heard from my Father.”
[MODERN REFORMED BELIEVER]: Jesus has revealed the truth to me because I am one of God’s elect. His saving revelation has been effectually given to me because God has chosen me.
16 “You did not choose me, but I chose you. I appointed you to go and produce fruit and that your fruit should remain…”
[MODERN REFORMED BELIEVER]: “I did not choose Christ. Christ unconditionally chose me for salvation before I was born. His sovereign choice preceded my faith, and His effectual calling ensured that I would believe.”
17 “This is what I command you: Love one another.”
[MODERN REFORMED BELIEVER]: My obedience and love for other believers are evidence that I am genuinely elect. If I persevere in faith and obedience, I demonstrate that I was truly regenerated.
18 “If the world hates you, understand that it hated me before it hated you.”
[MODERN REFORMED BELIEVER]: The world hates me because I am one of God’s elect and therefore belong to Christ rather than to the world.
19 “If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own. However, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of it, the world hates you.”
[MODERN REFORMED BELIEVER]: “Jesus chose me out of the world because I am one of the individuals God unconditionally elected to salvation rather than one of those whom He passed over.”
Responding to the Calvinist Reading
The Calvinist reading of John 15:16 begins with something absolutely true: Jesus chose His disciples. The problem is what is then inferred from that statement. Jesus says,
“You did not choose Me, but I chose you. I appointed you to go and produce fruit and that your fruit should remain.”
The Calvinist interpretation often moves from “I chose you” to “God unconditionally chose you for salvation,” and then from “I appointed you” to “God effectually called you.”
But those additional theological conclusions are not actually stated in the passage. The immediate context tells us what Jesus’ choice involved: He chose and appointed these disciples to go, bear fruit, remain faithful, love one another, and serve as His witnesses in the world. In fact, just three verses later Jesus explains this choice by saying, “because I have chosen you out of the world,” in the context of warning these same disciples that the world will hate and persecute them. The question is therefore not whether there is divine election in John 15:16—there clearly is—but what Jesus elected these people to do. A sound hermeneutic requires us to let the context answer that question before importing a systematic-theological definition of election into the text.
This is where hermeneutics becomes especially important. The principles of definition, usage, context, historical setting, logic, unity, and inference remind us that a conclusion may be true in a larger theological system without being the meaning of a particular verse. See my Five-Finger Life Punch that simply puts the matter thus:
biblical hermeneutics seeks to recover the meaning communicated to the original hearers, while exegesis draws meaning out of the text rather than reading our presuppositions into it.
John 15 is Jesus speaking to His disciples on the eve of His crucifixion, preparing them for continued obedience, fruitfulness, persecution, and witness. John 17 continues this same distinction: Jesus specifically prays for those given to Him and entrusted with His word, and then distinguishes them from those who will subsequently believe through their message. The apostles have a unique role as Christ’s appointed witnesses.
Therefore, when a modern Reformed believer reads “You did not choose Me” as “you were unable to choose Christ,” “I chose you” as “I unconditionally elected you to salvation,” and “I appointed you” as “I effectually called you,” he has moved beyond what John 15:16 actually says.
The issue is not whether God chooses; the issue is whether we have allowed the text to define what His choosing means, or whether we have made the Calvinistic system define it for us.
That is precisely the difference between exegesis and eisegesis.
Exegesis – (Gk. explanation) Critical exposition or explanation of the meaning of a scriptural passage in the context of the whole Bible. The reader of Scripture studies the word meanings and grammar of the text to discern what… was communicated, drawing the meaning out of the text rather than reading what he wants into the text (eisegesis).
Eisegesis – is the process of interpreting a text or portion of text in such a way that it introduces one’s own presuppositions, agendas, and/or biases into and onto the text.
[….]
Who was the writer?
To whom were they writing?
Is the choice of words, wording, or word order significant in this particular passage?
What is the cultural, historical context?
What was the author’s original intended meaning?
How did the author’s contemporaries understand him?
Why did he say it that way?
[….]
3) Rule of Context: Avoid using words out of context. Context must define terms and how words are used.
Many a passage of Scripture will not be understood at all without the help afforded by the context; for many a sentence derives all its point and force from the connection in which it stands. (Biblical Hermeneutics, Terry. M. S.. p. 117. 1896.)
[Bible words] must be understood according to the requirements of the context. (Thayer’s Greek English Lexicon of the New Testament, p. 97.)
Every word you read must be understood in the light of the words that come before and after it. (How to Make Sense, Flesch, Rudolph, p. 51, Harper & Brothers. 1959.)
[Bible words] when used out of context . . . can prove almost anything. [Some interpreters] twist them . . . from a natural to a non?natural sense. (Irenaeus, second century church father, quoted in Inspiration and Interpretation, p. 50, Eerdmans Pub. Co., 1957.)
The meaning must be gathered from the context. (Encyclopedia Britannica, Interpretation of Documents. V. 8, p. 912. 1959.)
This is a slightly truncated version of a Faith On Fire video. I am not always a fan of his style, or hyperbole… but this was good.
BIBLIOGRAPHY:
RPT. “A Short Study on Ways to Approach Scripture That Create Sound Doctrine.” Religio-Political Talk. Accessed October 4, 2026. Religio-Political Talk
RPT. Five-Finger Life Punch. Religio-Political Talk, August 2023. Five-Finger Life Punch
Myers, Jeremy. “John 15:16—‘You Did Not Choose Me, but I Chose You.’” Redeeming God. Redeeming God
“John 15:16—‘You Did Not Choose Me, but I Chose You.’” Answering Calvinism. Answering Calvinism
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The argument also draws substantially on John 6:70; John 13:18; John 15:1–27; John 17:6–20; Acts 10:39–43; Romans 3:1–2; Ephesians 3:1–12; and Genesis 12:1–3.
If mankind is not depraved from birth to adulthood then are we to say we are neutral creatures?
So election depends on who comes forward rather those who are selected for salvation?
Would this make Christ atonement a failure we do know that not everyone will be saved yet the atonement were meant for everyone? Cuz the purpose of Christ death is to save and if someone didnt come forward for salvation so what Christ paid is gone to waste?
So Holy Spirit is reduced to a persons free will decision to overcome it rather than accept it? What if corruption has been acquired and formed in someones life from child to adulthood that it leeches to them on how they think and act, so it means they have lost all hope?
So if Faith is not a gift but rather a response out of free will then we are the ones whos maintaining our Salvation? right? So free will plays a big part of whether or not we will be saved at the end of the day cuz the moment we fail on exercising our faith we are doomed? So we are ought to be perfect in order for us to be deemed worthy of salvation?
So lets deal with these a little, if only to post to fill space on RPT.
1) IF MANKIND IS NOT DEPRAVED FROM BIRTH TO ADULTHOOD
THEN ARE WE TO SAY WE ARE NEUTRAL CREATURES?
The Provisionist/Traditional Baptist position in your sources is not:
“Humans are born morally neutral and therefore don’t really need grace.”
It is:
Humans are born into a sinful condition, inherit a nature and environment inclined toward sin, inevitably sin, and desperately need God’s grace—but they are not born guilty of Adam’s personal sin or rendered incapable of responding to God’s gracious gospel.
In Anyone Can Be Saved (Article 2: The Sinfulness of Man) his distinction is explicitly stated:
humanity inherits “a nature and environment inclined toward sin,” and every morally capable person sins, but Adam’s sin does not itself incapacitate someone’s will or make that person guilty before personally sinning. (Article 2 from the Journal for Baptist Theology and Ministry [JBTM] Volume 9 number 2 [Fall 2012])
That gives you a useful three-category distinction:
Calvinism:
Neutralism/Pelagianism:
Provisionist/Traditional Baptist position:
That’s why the Provisionism graphic says:
“Humanity Is Sinful and Lost, Yet God’s Grace Enables a Genuine Response.”
That’s the important middle position.
And Saved by Grace through Faith or Saved by Decree? makes essentially the same argument: Robinson distinguishes depravity from the Calvinistic claim of total inability, arguing that people can be deeply corrupted without that corruption making gospel response metaphysically impossible. So the answer to the first challenge is:
“No. We aren’t saying man is neutral. We’re saying sinful does not mean incapable of responding to God’s grace.”
2) SO ELECTION DEPENDS ON WHO COMES FORWARD RATHER THOSE WHO ARE SELECTED FOR SALVATION?
This is probably the most important clarification to address. The answer is this, and it is simple [like the Gospel]:
God’s grace establishes the condition of salvation; faith does not earn election.
The Anyone Can Be Saved statement describes election as God’s eternal plan “in Christ” to have a people who are His by repentance and faith. It specifically rejects the idea that God predestines some individuals to salvation and others to condemnation irrespective of their response. AW Tozer says that “God’s sovereign decree establishes the destination and the conditions, without requiring God to decree which individual will make the choice.”
Robinson makes the same distinction in his discussion of Ephesians 1:
believers are chosen in Christ, and he argues that the New Testament presents election to salvation as involving union with Christ through faith and repentance. Saved by Grace through Faith or…
So saying that “Man chooses himself for salvation” is the wrong way to frame it.
That’s too strong and makes the objection easy. It should be stated as:
God chooses the terms of salvation; man does not choose the terms. God graciously provides Christ, the atonement, the gospel and the call to repent and believe. The sinner responds to that provision. Chafer notes, about 115 passages condition salvation on believing alone, and another 35 simply on faith.
Faith isn’t competing with God’s sovereignty. Faith is the condition God established for receiving His gracious provision.
Faith does not earn salvation; it receives the salvation God has graciously provided.
And that’s why Ephesians 2:8–9 is so important: the response of faith doesn’t become a meritorious work simply because it is genuinely exercised by the person. The Anyone Can Be Saved statement explicitly says grace takes the initiative and that faith is not a meritorious work earning salvation.
Article Four: The Grace of God
We affirm that grace is God’s generous decision to provide salvation for any person by taking all of the initiative in providing atonement, in freely offering the gospel in the power of the Holy Spirit, and in uniting the believer to Christ through the Holy Spirit by faith.
We deny that grace negates the necessity of a free response of faith or that it cannot be resisted. We deny that the response of faith is in any way a meritorious work that earns salvation.
He argues that the objective work of the cross is universal while its saving benefits are received by the individual through faith. Therefore, the fact that not everyone is saved does not mean Christ’s death failed. Saved by Grace through Faith or…
In Anyone Can Be Saved the authors are even more explicit. Article 3 says Christ’s sacrifice is the effective sacrifice for the sins of every person, while denying that the atonement automatically results in salvation without repentance and faith. It also explicitly denies that Christ died only for those who will ultimately be saved.
So:
Did Christ die for people who reject Him?
YES.
Does that mean those people are automatically saved?
No.
Does their rejection make Christ’s sacrifice defective?
No.
The cross accomplished what God intended it to accomplish: a sufficient and universal provision of redemption, which is savingly appropriated through faith.
Think of the distinction:
Faith simply receives what Christ provided. That’s why the objection: “What Christ paid is gone to waste” … doesn’t follow.
The cross isn’t a transaction in which Christ failed to save someone because that person rejected the benefit.
4) ISN’T THE HOLY SPIRIT REDUCED TO SOMEONE’S FREE WILL OVERCOMING HIM?
No.And this is where “resistible grace” is often badly characterized. Provisionist’s do not present the sinner as standing there with equal power to God and saying:
“My free will is stronger than the Holy Spirit!”
That’s not the argument.
The Anyone Can Be Saved statement actually describes grace as God taking all the initiative:
God provides the atonement, freely offers the gospel through the Holy Spirit, and unites the believer to Christ through the Spirit by faith. [adapted from — Anyone Can Be Saved, Article 4: “The Grace of God”]
It then specifically denies that grace cannot be resisted. THAT’S a radically different picture from:
“Man overpowers God.”
Rather:
God initiates. God provides Christ. God sends the gospel. The Spirit convicts and draws. The sinner is confronted with God’s gracious offer. The sinner may receive or resist.
Robinson similarly describes God’s drawing, gospel proclamation, Christ’s cross and the Spirit’s conviction of the world as expressions of God’s grace available to everyone, while explicitly arguing that such grace can be resisted. Pastor Rogers puts it thus via an older post:
Within the Non-Calvinist camp, there are at least two nuanced views on how God allows sinners to respond in faith. The first view is the Arminian view — which says that God’s work of grace (prevenient grace) for all people is needed to enable any sinner to freely choose to respond in faith to the Gospel message. The second view is the Provisionist View — which says that the Gospel message itself [see more below] is God’s work of grace so that when it is preached to all people, any sinner can freely choose to respond in faith. The proclamation of the Gospel is powerfully sufficient enough to bring salvation to those who will believe. While the Arminian and the Provisionist each have a different take on why all humans can respond to God’s offer, these two views both affirm the importance of God’s initiative of grace to invite all sinners to salvation. (from the book Grace For All: Understanding God’s Plan of Salvation).
— Michael R. Cariño
The “More Below”
Grace Enablements
Includes but are not limited to: God’s salvific love for all (John 3:16), God’s manifestation of his power so that all may know he is the Sovereign (Isa 45:21–22) and Creator (Rom 1:18–20), which assures that everyone has opportunity to know about him. Christ paying for all sins (John 1:29), conviction of the Holy Spirit (John 16:7–11), working of the Holy Spirit (Heb 6:1–6), enlightening of the Son (John 1:9), God’s teaching (John 6:45), God opening minds and hearts (Luke 24:45; Acts 16:14; 26:17–18;), and the power of the Gospel (Rom 1:16), without such redemptive grace, no one seeks or comes to God (Rom 3:11).
Because of these gracious provisions and workings of God, man can choose to seek and find God (Jer 29:13; Acts 17:11–12). Moreover, no one can come to God without God calling (Acts 2:39), drawing (John 6:44), and that God is drawing all individuals (John 12:32). The same Greek word for draw, helkuō, is used in both verses. “About 115 passages condition salvation on believing alone, and about 35 simply on faith.” Other grace enablements may include providential workings in and through other people, situations, and timing or circumstances that are a part of grace to provide an opportunity for every individual to choose to follow Christ.
These are grace enablements in at least three ways; first, they are provided by God’s grace rather than deserved by mankind; second, the necessary components for each and every individual to have a genuine opportunity to believe unto salvation are provided or restored by God; third, they are provided by God without respect to whether the individual will believe or reject, which response God knew in eternity past.
The offer of the Gospel is unconditional, but God sovereignly determined to condition the reception of the offer upon grace-enabled faith; therefore, faith is not reflective of a work or virtue of man, but of God’s sovereign plan of salvation by grace through faith (Eph 2:8). This indicates faith is the means to being regenerated and saved, not the reason for being saved. This truth of Scripture does not imply God is held captive to the choice of man, but rather it demonstrates God in eternity coextensively determined to create man with otherwise choice and provide a genuine offer of salvation, which can be accepted by grace-enabled faith or rejected. Additionally, to fulfill this plan, God is not obligated to disseminate the Gospel to people he knows have rejected the light he has given them (Rom 1:18–23) and will also reject the Gospel; although he may still send the Gospel to them.
So the question: “What if corruption has formed in someone’s life from childhood to adulthood?” — actually reinforces the need for grace.
The answer isn’t:
“People don’t need grace because they’re basically good.”
It is:
“They desperately need grace precisely because they are deeply corrupted.”
The disagreement is over whether that corruption means:
And there’s an important logical point:
Influence ≠ inability.
A person’s upbringing, habits, addictions, worldview, family, trauma, culture, desires, etc. can profoundly influence how he responds without establishing that he possesses zero capacity to respond to God’s revelation and grace.
So grace can be resisted… but our next dealing is with: assurance / security / apostasy / perseverance.
Those are related, but they’re actually two different questions:
Question A: Can a person resist God’s gracious call before salvation?
Question B: Once a person believes, what guarantees his salvation and what is the basis of assurance?
5) IF FAITH IS A RESPONSE, AREN’T WE MAINTAINING SALVATION?
This is the strongest objection rhetorically—but it also sneaks in another false equation: Human response = human merit.
It doesn’t follow.
Grace provides salvation; faith receives it.
And it specifically denies that the response of faith is a meritorious work. When Calvinists say “total depravity,” does that mean man cannot believe the gospel, or does it merely mean man cannot do anything meritorious enough to earn God’s favor?
We might raise a question at this point as to whether to understand total depravity as the lack of ability to believe (have faith) or just as the lack of ability to do something like perform a meritorious work that would obtain God’s favor. It is suggested here that the Dortian Calvinist position is both internally logically invalid and externally contradictory as it relates to the requirement to believe in Christ as the only means through which one might receive eternal life as a gift. Faith, not human works, is biblically the means through which regeneration is received from the Spirit. It is never said to be the inevitable ensuing result of such regeneration. We are not called on to be regenerated in order to believe, but we are obliged to believe as a condition for regeneration unto eternal life to take place. A life lived by faith after regeneration defines who are the overcomers in the realm of Christian life and demonstrates spiritual growth toward maturity.
A. Strong inability
The sinner cannot believe in Christ without first being regenerated.
B. Merit inability
The sinner cannot earn salvation through good works, but can nevertheless respond to God’s gracious offer in faith.
So:Faith, not human works, is biblically the means through which regeneration is received from the Spirit.
The end of that very long sentence in Ephesians says:
In him you also were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and when you believed. 14 The Holy Spirit is the down payment of our inheritance, until the redemption of the possession, to the praise of his glory.
HEARD THE GOSPEL BELIEVED IN CHRIST SEALED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT THE SPIRIT IS THE GUARANTEE OF OUR INHERITANCE
The basis of assurance isn’t:
“I know I’m saved because I have successfully demonstrated sufficient perseverance.”
Rather, Paul points believers to God’s action and promise:
He seals the believer with His Spirit, and the Spirit is the guarantee of the inheritance.
And there’s an important grammatical detail, Ephesians 1:13 says:
“having believed, you were sealed…”
The Greek participle pisteusantes (“having believed”) precedes esphragisthēte (“you were sealed”). So the text naturally presents believing sealing, rather than requiring us to insert a prior regeneration faith sequence into the passage. Then verse 14 describes the Spirit as:
“the guarantee [arrabōn] of our inheritance…”
That word carries the idea of a pledge, deposit, or down payment guaranteeing what is to come.
And “if I stumble, I’m doomed” is not the position. This is another important distinction.
There is a huge difference between:
“I sinned.”
and
“I deliberately and finally renounce Christ and abandon the faith.”
Robinson specifically describes apostasy in the latter terms. He says the issue isn’t accidentally “losing” salvation, but a willful, deliberate decision to abandon or renounce the faith.
The crucial question in the case of apostasy concerns whether a true believer in Christ can at some point in their lives forsake their faith, or fall from grace. A common but unhelpful term is “lose one’s salvation.” The problem with this way of stating the issue is that it is too close to being something that happens accidentally—similar to “I lost my glasses.” But here we are not talking about something in the Christian’s life that happens accidentally, but rather is a willful, deliberate decision and choice to abandon or renounce the faith. To the question as to whether a Christian can fall from grace in a final sense, typically at least three different answers have been given. The Calvinist says no; the non-Calvinist says yes; and a third position says, “Theoretically Yes, but in practice, No” (hypothetical apostasy). — Oops – I Thought I Was a Four Point Calvinist
So the challenger’s formulation:
“the moment we fail on exercising our faith we are doomed”
doesn’t accurately represent the position.
It turns apostasy into ordinary Christian failure.
But the New Testament itself distinguishes falling into sin from abandoning Christ.
Its Article 9 of Anyone Can Be Saved, says that when a person responds in faith, God promises to complete the process of salvation into eternity. It describes justification, sanctification by the indwelling Spirit, and glorification—and explicitly says the Holy Spirit-sealed relationship cannot be broken.
Article Nine: The Security of the Believer
We affirm that when a person responds in faith to the gospel, God promises to complete the process of salvation in the believer into eternity. This process begins with justification, whereby the sinner is immediately acquitted of all sin and granted peace with God; continues in sanctification, whereby the saved are progressively conformed to the image of Christ by the indwelling Holy Spirit; and concludes in glorification, whereby the saint enjoys life with Christ in heaven forever.
We deny that this Holy Spirit-sealed relationship can ever be broken. We deny even the possibility of apostasy.
Here are the Journal articles published on the position, full PDFs linked in pictures:
So Traditional Southern Baptist/Provisionist thought isn’t necessarily identical to an Arminian “you can lose salvation every time you stumble” position.
“I know I am saved because I have believed Christ’s promise; my assurance rests on God’s testimony and Christ’s finished work, not on successfully measuring my future perseverance.” — Pastor Andy Woods
This is someone who can be said walked away from the faith:
SO TO RECAP
Sinfulness doesn’t require total inability.We can be thoroughly sinful without being incapable of responding to God’s gracious revelation.
Conditional election doesn’t mean man earns election. God determines the condition—repentance and faith—and salvation remains entirely God’s gracious provision.
Universal atonement doesn’t require universal salvation. Christ’s death provides salvation for all, while its saving benefits are received only by those who believe.
Resistible grace doesn’t mean man overpowers the Holy Spirit. God initiates, draws, convicts, reveals, and provides; the sinner can nevertheless resist that gracious work.
Faith isn’t a meritorious work. Trusting Christ doesn’t make Christ’s work unnecessary; faith is the means by which the sinner receives what Christ accomplished—and assurance rests on God’s promise and Christ’s finished work, not on successfully measuring future performance.
These are my rough notes to a Bible study I am still in with people from a church I left due to the increase in Calvinism from the shadows to the forefront. You will find a lot about “assurance of faith” vs. the “perseverance” many have in mind. This does not mean I settle the question, but it may add thinking to your understanding of our position.
This file combines the two quote collections originally supplied, removes repeated passages, and adds further well-known Reformed / Calvinist statements that God decrees or ordains evil events (including the fall and particular sins) while usually denying that God is himself the sinner.
Most writers in the “classic Reformed” line use this pair: (1) God unchangeably ordains whatsoever comes to pass, including sinful acts; (2) the sinfulness of the act is from the creature, not from God as author. Vincent Cheung is included as the far edge of the same logic; his “author of sin” wording is rejected by most Westminster/Ligonier/Piper writers.
Scripture texts most often cited in this debate: Acts 2:23; 4:27–28; Ephesians 1:11; Isaiah 45:7; Amos 3:6; Lamentations 3:37–38; Genesis 50:20; Romans 9.
I. Confessional standards
Westminster Confession of Faith (1646)
“God from all eternity did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass: yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures, nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.”
WCF 3.1.
“The almighty power, unsearchable wisdom, and infinite goodness of God so far manifest themselves in His providence, that it extendeth itself even to the first fall, and all other sins of angels and men; and that not by a bare permission, but such as hath joined with it a most wise and powerful bounding, and otherwise ordering and governing of them, in a manifold dispensation, to His own holy ends; yet so, as the sinfulness thereof proceedeth only from the creature, and not from God, who, being most holy and righteous, neither is, nor can be, the author or approver of sin.”
WCF 5.4. The 1689 Baptist Confession uses the same structure.
“By the decree of God, for the manifestation of His glory, some men and angels are predestinated unto everlasting life, and others foreordained to everlasting death.”
WCF 3.3.
“The rest of mankind God was pleased, according to the unsearchable counsel of His own will … to pass by; and to ordain them to dishonour and wrath, for their sin, to the praise of His glorious justice.”
WCF 3.7.
Canons of Dort
Reprobation, on the Dort account, is not a bare foresight of unbelief. God leaves some in their fall and ordains them to condemnation for their sin, while unbelief itself is not outside the decree. See First Head of Doctrine, articles 6 and 15, and the Rejection of Errors.
Canons of Dort I.6, I.15 and Rejection of Errors under the First Head.
II. Authors, A–Z
Boettner, Loraine
“In the same manner and to an infinitely greater extent God controls our actions so that they are certain although we act freely.” […] “Even the sinful acts of men are included in this plan.”
Usually cited from The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination.
“Even the fall of Adam, and through him the fall of the race, was not by chance or accident, but was so ordained in the secret counsels of God.”
The Reformed Doctrine of Predestination.
Calvin, John
“Hence we maintain that, by his providence, not heaven and earth and inanimate creatures only, but also the counsels and wills of men are so governed as to move exactly in the course which he has destined.”
Institutes 1.16.8.
“Men do nothing save at the secret instigation of God, and do not discuss and deliberate on anything but what he has previously decreed with himself, and brings to pass by his secret direction.”
Institutes 1.18.1.
“The hand of God rules the interior affections no less than it superintends external actions; nor would God have effected by the hand of man what he decreed, unless he worked in their hearts to make them will before they acted.”
Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, trans. J. K. S. Reid, p. 175f.
“… how foolish and frail is the support of divine justice afforded by the suggestion that evils come to be, not by His will but by His permission. … It is a quite frivolous refuge to say that God otiosely permits them, when Scripture shows Him not only willing, but the author of them. … Who does not tremble at these judgments with which God works in the hearts of even the wicked whatever He will, rewarding them nonetheless according to desert? Again it is quite clear from the evidence of Scripture that God works in the hearts of men to incline their wills just as he will, whether to good for His mercy’s sake, or to evil according to their merits.”
The Eternal Predestination of God 10:11.
“From these statements of the inspired word … it is, I think, sufficiently clear that God works in the hearts of men to incline their wills whithersoever He wills, whether to good deeds according to His mercy, or to evil after their own deserts; His own judgment being sometimes manifest, sometimes secret, but always righteous.”
Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God.
“Does God control even the evil wills of evil men? Calvin’s answer, in accord with Scripture, was ‘yes.’ Just as God controlled the rebellion of Pharaoh (Ex. 9:12), the cursing of Shimei (2 Sam. 16:10), and the rage of the Jerusalem crowds (Acts 2:23), so He controls even the will of all wicked men.”
The Secret Providence of God, ed. Paul Helm, trans. Keith Goad (Wheaton: Crossway, 2010), 79–80.
Note: The last block is Helm/Goad framing Calvin, not a continuous Calvin paragraph.
Cheung, Vincent
“God must be the author of evil, or evil could never have come about. God must be the author of sin, or sin could never have happened.”
“God the Author” (vincentcheung.com, 2009).
“When someone alleges that my view of divine sovereignty makes God the author of sin, my reaction is ‘So what?’ … The truth is that, whether or not God is the author of sin, there is no biblical or rational problem with him being the author of sin.”
The Author of Sin (2014), p. 4.
“God controls everything that exists and everything that happens. There is not one thing that exists or that happens that he has not decreed and caused—not even a single thought in the mind of man. Since this is true, it follows that God has decreed and caused the existence of evil. … In fact, when it comes to ontology, ‘God’s permission’ is an unintelligible term.”
The Author of Sin, p. 61.
Note: Cheung is the blunt edge of decree-theology. Most Westminster, Ligonier, and Piper writers reject calling God “the author of sin.”
Clark, Gordon H.
“I wish very frankly and pointedly to assert that if a man gets drunk and shoots his family, it was the will of God that he should do so. … In Ephesians 1:11, Paul tells us that God works all things, not some things only, after the counsel of his own will.”
Religion, Reason and Revelation (Nutley, N.J.: Craig Press, 1961), 221.
Edwards, Jonathan
“That we should say that God has decreed every action of men, yea, every action that is sinful, and every circumstance of those actions; that he predetermines that they shall be in every respect as they afterwards are; that he determines that there shall be such actions, and just so sinful as they are; and yet that God does not decree the actions that are sinful, as sin, but decrees them as good,—all of this is really consistent.”
Concerning the Divine Decrees in General, and Election in Particular.
If by “the author of sin” is meant the sinner, the agent, or doer of a wicked thing, Edwards says it would be “a reproach and blasphemy” to call God the author of sin, and he “utterly deny[s]” it in that sense. If it only means that God so disposes the state of events that sin, if permitted, “will most certainly and infallibly follow,” he does not deny the substance, though he dislikes the phrase.
Freedom of the Will / related discussions; often quoted via Piper.
“So evil is necessary, in order to the highest happiness of the creature, and the completeness of that communication of God, for which he made the world; because the creature’s happiness consists in the knowledge of God, and the sense of his love.”
Cited in John Piper, “Is God Less Glorious Because He Ordained That Evil Be?” (1998).
Frame, John M.
“The Reformed agree that God knows what would happen under all conditions, but they reject the notion that this knowledge is ever ultimately based on man’s autonomous decisions. Human decisions, they argue, are themselves the effects of God’s eternal decrees.”
“Scientia Media,” Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, 2nd ed., ed. Walter A. Elwell (Grand Rapids: Baker Academic, 2001), 1075.
Grudem, Wayne
God “brings about evil deeds through the willing actions of moral creatures. Moreover, Scripture never blames God for evil or shows God as taking pleasure in evil, and Scripture never excuses human beings for the wrong they do.”
Systematic Theology, discussion of God and evil (standard Grudem wording as commonly cited).
Hendryx, John
“In order to understand this better theologians have come up with the term ‘compatibilism’ to describe the concurrence of God’s sovereignty and man’s responsibility. Compatibilism is a form of determinism and it should be noted that this position is no less deterministic than hard determinism.”
Monergism.com. Related piece: “We are not Determinists!”
Hodge, A. A.
“God having from eternity absolutely decreed whatsoever comes to pass … he ALSO continually controls and directs the actions of all his creatures thus preserved, so that while he never violates the law of their several natures, he yet infallibly causes all actions and events singular and universal to occur according to the eternal and immutable plan embraced in his decree.”
“God’s decree ‘foreordains whatsoever comes to pass’; there was no event in the womb of the future, the futurition of which was not made certain to God by it.”
Outlines of Theology / systematic material.
Note: The paste’s line “If God’s plan doesn’t determine free human actions…” was a gloss and is omitted.
Hodge, Charles
“The decrees of God are certainly efficacious, that is, they render certain the occurrence of what He decrees. Whatever God foreordains, must certainly come to pass. The distinction between the efficient (or efficacious) and the permissive decrees of God, although important, has no relation to the certainty of events. All events embraced in the purpose of God are equally certain, whether He has determined to bring them to pass by his own power, or simply to permit their occurrence through the agency of his creatures.” […] “It was no less certain from eternity that Satan would tempt our first parents, and that they would fall, than that God would send his Son to die for sinners.”
“The doctrine of the Bible is, that all events, whether necessary or contingent, good or sinful, are included in the purpose of God, and that their futurition or actual occurrence is rendered absolutely certain.”
Systematic Theology, sections on the decrees.
Luther, Martin
“[The] omnipotence and foreknowledge of God, I repeat, utterly destroy the doctrine of ‘free-will’… Doubtless it gives the greatest possible offence to common sense or natural reason, that God, Who is proclaimed as being full of mercy and goodness, and so on, should of His own mere will abandon, harden and damn men, as though He delighted in the sins and great eternal torments of such poor wretches. It seems an iniquitous, cruel, intolerable thought to think of God; and it is this that has been such a stumbling block to so many great men down through the ages. And who would not stumble at it? I have stumbled at it myself more than once, down to the deepest pit of despair, so that I wished I had never been made a man. (That was before I knew how health-giving that despair was, and how close to grace.)”
The Bondage of the Will (1525).
Note: Luther is the Reformation source of this line, not a later “five-point” Calvinist. Editorial bullets from Collection 2 are omitted.
MacArthur, John
“He controls everything. He’s in complete control of evil.” […] “The devil is God’s devil; he’s totally controlled by God.” […] “Every single movement, as R. C. said, of every molecule is controlled by God, and a whole lot of it is evil.” […] “There’s not one molecule in the universe that’s out of line with His purposes.”
Grace to You.
“Then God is responsible for all the evil and all the divine judgment and the determination of eternal punishment. This is a God that some people just can’t live with; they’ve got to get Him off the hook.”
Grace to You (video).
Note: The second block describes the free-will theodicy MacArthur is rejecting.
Owen, John
On the fall: the tree, the serpent, and the taking of the fruit were not a bare permission. “Sovereign” here “means more than mere permission. God is not the author of sin, but neither is ‘allow’ the best explanation for it all. … it was all decreed.”
Discussion of Communion with God, as summarized in The Cripplegate, “John Owen on Why God Decreed the Fall” (2013).
Note: Owen’s own prose in Communion with God speaks of a “design in Christ” lodged from eternity after describing the fall’s ruin; the word “decreed” in the summary is the interpreter’s.
Palmer, Edwin H.
“All things that happen in all the world at any time and in all history … come to pass because God ordained them. Even sin—the fall of the devil from heaven, the fall of Adam, and every evil thought, word, and deed in all of history … is included in the eternal decree of our holy God.” […] “Sin is not only foreknown by God, it is also foreordained by God.”
The Five Points of Calvinism, 2nd ed. (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1999), pp. 24–25, 82.
Pink, A. W.
“Plainly it was God’s will that sin should enter this world, otherwise it would not have entered, for nothing happens except what God has eternally decreed. Moreover, there was more than a simple permission, for God only permits things that fulfill His purpose.” […] “Not only did God have a perfect foreknowledge of the outcome of Adam’s trial; not only did His omniscient eye see Adam eating of the forbidden fruit, but He decreed beforehand that he should do so.”
The Sovereignty of God.
Piper, John
“God so disposes all things … so that in accordance with moral necessity all men make only those choices ordained by God from all eternity.” […] “In this way He ultimately determines all acts of volition (though not all in the same way) and yet holds man accountable only for those acts which they want most to do.”
Desiring God (page/URL not in the original paste).
“Somehow, we must confess both that God has a role in bringing evil about, and that in doing so he is holy and blameless.” […] “God does bring sins about, but always for his own good purposes. So in bringing sin to pass he does not himself commit sin.”
Desiring God writing on God and evil.
“Is God less glorious because he ordained that evil be? … no, just the opposite. God is more glorious for having conceived and created and governed a world like this with all its evil. The effort to absolve him by denying his foreknowledge of sin … or by denying his control of sin … is fatal.”
John Piper, “Is God Less Glorious Because He Ordained That Evil Be?” (1998).
Shedd, W. G. T.
“In Pauline conception, predestination, or foreordination, covers and includes both the holiness that is to be rewarded with life, and the sin that is to be punished with death. The holiness of the elect is predestinated, and the sin of the non-elect likewise.” […] “the perdition of Judas was as much foreordained and free from chance, as the conversion of Saul.”
Calvinism: Mixed and Pure (Monergism reprint, 2020), 78, 34.
Sproul, R. C., Jr.
“God wills all things that come to pass.” […] “God desired for man to fall into sin.” […] “I am not accusing God of sinning; I am suggesting that God created sin.”
Almighty Over All (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1999), p. 54.
Note: R. C. Sproul Jr., not R. C. Sproul Sr.
Talbot, Mark
“Ephesians 1:11 goes even further by declaring that God in Christ ‘works all things according to the counsel of his will.’ Here the Greek word for ‘works’ is energeō, which indicates that God not merely carries all of the universe’s objects and events to their appointed ends but that he actually brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that he himself brings about these evil aspects for his glory … This includes—as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem—God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child.”
In John Piper and Justin Taylor, eds., Suffering and the Sovereignty of God (Wheaton: Crossway, 2006), 42.
Turretin, Francis
God is not the “true and proper cause” of sin; yet the fall stands under the decree so that it is certain. Secondary literature regularly pairs Turretin’s Institutes of Elenctic Theology on this point with Edwards.
Institutes of Elenctic Theology 1:611 (as cited in discussions of Edwards and the fall).
Zachariades, Theodore
“God works all things after the Council of His will. Even keeping those kings who want to commit adultery from committing so! And when He wants to, he orders those to commit adultery when he wants to!”
Video (title/date not in the paste). “Council” almost certainly = “counsel.”
Zanchius, Jerome
“Surely, if God had not willed the fall, He could, and no doubt would, have prevented it; but He did not prevent it: ergo He willed it. And if He willed it, He certainly decreed it.”
The Doctrine of Absolute Predestination, ch. II, sec. II, par. 4.
This is from a debate [of sorts] from X… really they are a series of snipes from INTJ68, So I will post his challenge, my response…. it’ll be choppy, but that is the nature of the WWW – I just want to get it on here to keep.
INTJ68 responded with this… proof texts, not dissimilar to J-Dubs proving Jehovah is Unitarian, and “disproving” the Trinity, or Mormons “showing” the Trinity is three completely separate God’s, all born through sexual acts:
I responded that these “proof” texts have been responded to, giving three examples [one mine]:
This is where John Hendryx’s admission becomes particularly important…. (From a post of mine I will link after the two videos)
Hendryx explains that theologians use “compatibilism” to reconcile God’s sovereignty with human responsibility, but he explicitly acknowledges that “compatibilism is a form of determinism” and is “no less deterministic than hard determinism.” The Calvinist answer, therefore, is not to deny that God determines human choices, but to argue that a person can still be morally responsible for a choice that God has determined him to make. In other words, compatibilism doesn’t solve the determinism problem by denying that human choices are determined; it attempts to reconcile determinism with human responsibility by insisting that a determined choice can still be considered the person’s responsible choice.
And that is precisely where the problem arises. If God determines that one person will believe and another will remain in unbelief—and the latter cannot believe unless God first regenerates him—then what does “responsibility” actually mean? The Calvinist can say the unbeliever willingly rejects Christ, but the deeper question remains: could he have done otherwise without God first giving him the ability to do otherwise? If the answer is no, then simply calling him “responsible” does not explain how responsibility works; it merely asserts it.
…continued…
The founder of Monergism .com says that “compatibilism is a form of determinism” and is “no less deterministic than hard determinism.”
John MacArthur, however, shows why that distinction raises a profound problem. He argues that if God is the primary cause and humans are merely secondary causes moved by that primary cause, then the determinism ultimately extends to the secondary cause as well. God is the one who ultimately “decided,” “compelled,” and “coerced” the action. In other words, the human being remains the immediate or secondary cause of the action, but that secondary cause itself is also determined by the primary cause. God remains the ultimate determining cause behind both the action and the secondary cause through which that action occurs.
You miss-define sovereignty to mean that God exhaustively controls everything. So does all the “Reformed” Baptist and Calvinists I listed in a previous post.
INTJ68
I Respond:
Also, did God decree and ordain me to believe in Provisionism?
“The hand of God rules the interior affections no less than it superintends external actions; nor would God have effected by the hand of man what he decreed, unless he worked in their hearts to make them will before they acted.” — John Calvin, Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, tr. J. K. S. Reid, p.175f
If God determines all things—including the interior affections and thoughts that precede our actions—then He determined the chain of thoughts, desires, experiences, and circumstances by which I came to believe Provisionism. As Calvin put it, God “worked in [our] hearts to make [us] will before [we] acted.”
So my belief in Provisionism is, on your own system, part of that determined chain. Why, then, mock me for believing what your theology says God determined me to believe? Before you call my theology “trash,” explain why your system requires God to determine the very thoughts and convictions you are condemning me for having.
INTJ68 said “Lol, you people always do the meme.” and then posted a meme. I did note he started this all essentially with a trash can meme.
I Respond:
Sorry Charlie, you are fighting the Paul Washers of your heretical faith
JOHN CALVIN
“… how foolish and frail is the support of divine justice afforded by the suggestion that evils come to be, not by His will but by His permission. … It is a quite frivolous refuge to say that God otiosely permits them, when Scripture shows Him not only willing, but the author of them. … Who does not tremble at these judgments with which God works in the hearts of even the wicked whatever He will, rewarding them nonetheless according to desert? Again it is quite clear from the evidence of Scripture that God works in the hearts of men to incline their wills just as he will, whether to good for His mercy’s sake, or to evil according to their merits.”
— The Eternal Predestination of God 10:11.
GORDON H. CLARK
“I wish very frankly and pointedly to assert that if a man gets drunk and shoots his family, it was the will of God that he should do so. … In Ephesians 1:11, Paul tells us that God works all things, not some things only, after the counsel of his own will.”
“The Reformed agree that God knows what would happen under all conditions, but they reject the notion that this knowledge is ever ultimately based on man’s autonomous decisions. Human decisions, they argue, are themselves the effects of God’s eternal decrees.”
— “Scientia Media,” Evangelical Dictionary of Theology, 2nd ed., ed. Walter A. Elwell (Grand Rapids: Baker Academic, 2001), 1075.
JOHN PIPER
“God so disposes all things … so that in accordance with moral necessity all men make only those choices ordained by God from all eternity.” […] “In this way He ultimately determines all acts of volition (though not all in the same way) and yet holds man accountable only for those acts which they want most to do.”
“Ephesians 1:11 goes even further by declaring that God in Christ ‘works all things according to the counsel of his will.’ Here the Greek word for ‘works’ is energeō, which indicates that God not merely carries all of the universe’s objects and events to their appointed ends but that he actually brings about all things in accordance with his will. In other words, it isn’t just that God manages to turn the evil aspects of our world to good for those who love him; it is rather that he himself brings about these evil aspects for his glory … This includes—as incredible and as unacceptable as it may currently seem—God’s having even brought about the Nazis’ brutality at Birkenau and Auschwitz as well as the terrible killings of Dennis Rader and even the sexual abuse of a young child.”
— In John Piper and Justin Taylor, eds., Suffering and the Sovereignty of God (Wheaton: Crossway, 2006), 42.
How bout Macarthur, Sproul, Piper and others. I grant that some “say” compatibilism, but people are not thinking to the logical conclusion of it. What is free will compatible with? Theistic determinism? That crumbles un the law of non-contradiction. Sproul teaches double predestination…. so where is the “compatiblism” in that. You are fighting not me, but ….
John Calvin, Theodore Beza, William Perkins, Francis Turretin, Amandus Polanus, Girolamo Zanchi, John Owen, Thomas Goodwin, Stephen Charnock, Jonathan Edwards, A. A. Hodge, Charles Hodge, B. B. Warfield, R. L. Dabney, William G. T. Shedd, Herman Bavinck, Abraham Kuyper, Louis Berkhof, Cornelius Van Til, Gordon H. Clark, R. C. Sproul, John Piper, John MacArthur, J. I. Packer, James Montgomery Boice, Sinclair Ferguson, R. C. Sproul Jr., Michael Horton, Wayne Grudem, Thomas Schreiner, Albert Mohler, Paul Washer, James White
INTJ68
I Respond:
Thank you for proving my point. Took a while to get here. Notice what is happening here. Paul Washer says we are ‘free to will,’ but only according to our nature—and then says our fallen nature guarantees evil until God gives us a new heart. That’s not an explanation of libertarian free will; it’s an explanation of compatibilist freedom. The real question isn’t whether we voluntarily do what we want. The question is whether we could have done otherwise. If my nature determines what I will want, and God must first change that nature before I can choose Christ, then saying ‘you’re free to will’ doesn’t establish libertarian freedom—it simply redefines freedom so that determinism can still be called free will.
If the fallen man is genuinely free to choose Christ, why does he need God to give him a new heart before he can choose Christ? But if he cannot choose Christ until God changes his nature, then what exactly was his ‘free will’ doing in the first place?
Pelagius did not actually believe that—well, not quite. Of the fourteen charges brought against him, he accepted only half of one.
“So you deny original sin? Then you’re a Pelagian.”
That charge has been around for a long time. Luther, for example, attacked Zwingli’s view of original sin as Pelagian. But Zwingli did not simply deny that Adam’s fall affected the rest of humanity. He taught that Adam’s sin left humanity with an inherited condition of corruption, misery, bondage, and death; what he rejected was the idea that Adam’s guilt itself was personally imputed to his descendants.
That is what makes Ali Bonner’s historical analysis so useful. “Pelagianism” was not the name of a neat, clearly defined theological system into which everyone who disagreed with Augustine could be placed. Bonner argues that the category was shaped through controversy, and that the historical record is much messier than the formula “deny original sin = Pelagian” suggests. Pelagius himself believed that Adam’s sin affected his descendants, even though he rejected Augustine’s account of inherited original sin. A different view of Adam, original sin, or inherited guilt, then, does not by itself make someone a Pelagian.
A useful comparison is the label “trickle-down economics.” It became a standard way to describe—and criticize—Reagan-era economic policy, though Reagan did not use the phrase to define his own program. His administration spoke instead about cutting tax rates, encouraging growth, and supply-side economics. Nor did the broader idea begin with Reagan. JFK also pushed for major tax cuts, arguing that “tax rates are too high” and that stronger economic growth would ultimately increase revenue. He is also remembered for the line, “a rising tide lifts all boats.”
Of course, the point is not that Pelagianism and “trickle-down economics” are the same kind of thing. The comparison is about how quickly a polemical label can take the place of describing what someone actually believes.
So before calling someone a Pelagian, it is worth asking whether that person actually holds Pelagius’s theology—or merely has a different account of how Adam’s sin is transmitted and what its consequences are.
That is all I feel like cataloging here. Gotta go prep for the work week.
R.C. Sproul’s Statement on Predestination (from Chosen by God):
“What predestination means, in its most elementary form, is that our final destination, heaven or hell, is decided by God not only before we get there, but before we are even born. It teaches that our ultimate destiny is in the hands of God. Another way of saying it is this: From all eternity, before we ever live, God decided to save some members of the human race and to let the rest of the human race perish. God made a choice–he chose some individuals to be saved unto everlasting blessedness in heaven and others he chose to pass over, to allow them to follow the consequences of their sins into eternal torment in hell.” (Chosen By God, p.22, emphasis mine)
This is double predestination in practice, even if Sproul calls the active-positive version for reprobation a caricature.
If the elect cannot fail to be saved,
and the reprobate cannot be saved because God withholds the only grace capable of producing faith,
then what practical difference remains between active reprobation and passive reprobation?
Elect infants, dying in infancy, are regenerated, and saved by Christ, through the Spirit, who works when, and where, and how He pleases: so also are all other elect persons who are incapable of being outwardly called by the ministry of the Word.
– Westminster Confession of Faith (WCF) 10.3
“Holy Spirit can save an infant by changing his heart, giving grace, and applying the merit of Christ to him. The Westminster divines certainly believed that babies can be saved. They did not teach that all infants are necessarily saved; rather, they taught that only an undetermined number of elect infants are saved. Obviously, an elect infant is going to be saved, and any saved infant is elect, but the divines did not speculate on which infants those would be.”
– R.C. Sproul, Truths We Confess: A Systematic Exposition of the Westminster Confession of Faith (Sanford, FL: Reformation Trust, 2019), 321.
Sproul conforms his support for the ideas in the WCF:
One of the most important confessions of faith ever penned, particularly in the English-speaking world, is the Westminster Confession of Faith. By the confession’s own statements, no confession written by uninspired authors is to be taken as having supreme authority over the believer. Confessions cannot bind the conscience in the manner that the Word of God can and does. At the same time, though human confessions and creeds are penned by fallible people without the benefit of the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, the profound level of theological and biblical precision manifest in the Westminster Confession of Faith is awe-inspiring. (Ibid., xvii.)
[….]
The Westminster Confession is the most precise and accurate summary of the content of biblical Christianity ever set forth in a creedal form. Creeds such as the Belgic Confession, the Heidelberg Catechism, and the Scots Confession should be highly regarded, but no historic confession surpasses in eloquence, grandeur, and theological accuracy the Westminster Confession of Faith. (Ibid., xix)
Critiquing the matter via CHAT:
The Internal Tension
Sproul writes:
“The Westminster divines certainly believed that babies can be saved. They did not teach that all infants are necessarily saved; rather, they taught that only an undetermined number of elect infants are saved.”
The immediate question is:
If only elect infants are saved, what happens to non-elect infants?
Historically, Westminster does not explicitly answer that question. Critics argue that the silence is revealing. If the Confession intended to teach universal infant salvation, it could have said:
“All infants dying in infancy are saved.”
Instead it says: “Elect infants.” Sproul defends that wording rather than correcting it.
Critique #1: Election Becomes the Ultimate Divider
Sproul affirms:
unconditional election,
total inability,
monergistic regeneration,
and reprobation.
Therefore, infant salvation cannot be based upon:
personal faith,
conscious belief,
repentance,
or moral innocence.
It must ultimately rest on election.
Critics respond:
If election alone determines which infants are saved, then election alone determines which infants are not saved.
Thus the question becomes: Why would God elect some infants and not others?Sproul never provides a clear answer.
Critique #2: Original Guilt Creates the Problem
Sproul consistently taught:
Adam’s guilt is imputed to humanity,
infants are fallen,
infants need Christ’s grace.
Critics agree infants need grace but ask:
Does inherited guilt alone make an infant deserving of eternal punishment?
Many opponents argue Scripture consistently ties judgment to:
knowledge,
personal rebellion,
actual transgression.
Examples often cited:
Deuteronomy 1:39
Isaiah 7:15-16
Jonah 4:11
Romans 4:15
The criticism is:
Sproul imports Augustine’s doctrine of inherited guilt and then must wrestle with implications Augustine himself embraced.
Critique #3: The Moral Character of God
This is probably the most emotionally and philosophically powerful objection.
If:
an infant never consciously sins,
never rejects God,
never suppresses truth,
never commits personal acts of rebellion,
Yet could still be damned, Critics ask:
What meaningful sense of justice remains?
This is where many critics invoke the same concern raised by Juncker regarding determinism:
If moral categories are detached from personal responsibility, words like justice become difficult to understand.
FULLER QUOTE:
“If determinism is true then either God is evil and the author of evil or all talk of good and evil, of praise and blame, of moral responsibility, and of justice is meaningless and incomprehensible with reference to God. That is, if God can cause or determine evil and yet remain good, and if God can punish those who do exactly and only what He has meticulously caused and determined them to do and yet remain just, then we have no idea who God is or what He might or might not do or what Scripture could possibly mean when it calls Him ‘good’ and ‘just.'”
Eternal punishment without personal rebellion appears inconsistent with ordinary moral reasoning and the biblical portrayal of God’s fairness.
Critique #4: Westminster Creates an Unnecessary Problem
Many critics argue Westminster itself created the issue. The Confession says:
“Elect infants.”
Critics ask why not simply say:
“Infants dying in infancy are saved through Christ”?
Mohler, Warfield, and Spurgeon essentially move in that direction. Sproul, however, insists the Westminster divines intentionally did not teach universal infant salvation. Critics argue:
That commitment to confessional precision ends up preserving a theological possibility that Scripture never explicitly teaches.
Critique #5: Sproul’s Loyalty to Westminster
This critique becomes stronger when paired with Sproul’s own statements:
“The Westminster Confession is the most precise and accurate summary of the content of biblical Christianity ever set forth in a creedal form.”
and
“One of the most important confessions of faith ever penned…”
Because Sproul viewed Westminster so highly, critics argue he was reluctant to depart from its language regarding elect infants even when later Reformed theologians moved toward affirming universal infant salvation.
The Strongest One-Sentence Critique
The strongest critique is probably this:
By affirming unconditional election, inherited guilt, and Westminster’s doctrine of “elect infants,” Sproul leaves open the possibility that some infants are not elect and therefore not saved, a conclusion many critics believe is inconsistent with both the justice and goodness of God as revealed in Scripture.
Exhaustive Determinism:
Sproul affirms that God ordains whatsoever comes to pass (echoing Westminster):
He knows all things that will happen because he ordains everything that does happen. This is crucial to our understanding of God’s omniscience. He does not know what will happen by virtue of exceedingly good guesswork about future events. He knows it with certainty because he has decreed it.
The Westminster Confession avers: “God from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass. . . .”
This statement refers to God’s eternal and immutable decretive will. It applies to everything that happens. Does this mean that everything that happens is the will of God? Yes. Augustine qualified this answer by adding the words, “in a certain sense.” That is, God ordains “in some sense” everything that happens. Nothing that takes place is beyond the scope of his sovereign will. The movement of every molecule, the actions of every plant, the falling of every star, the choices of every volitional creature, all of these are subject to his sovereign will. No maverick molecules run loose in the universe, beyond the control of the Creator. If one such molecule existed, it could be the critical fly in the eternal ointment. As one grain of sand in the kidney of Oliver Cromwell changed the course of English history, so one maverick molecule could destroy every promise God has ever made about the outcome of history.
— What Is Reformed Theology, p. 172
Sproul’s view functionally equivalent to Calvin’s broader decretive will, even if he rejects “equal ultimacy” (symmetrical positive-positive reprobation where God actively works sin in the reprobate the same way He works faith in the elect). Sproul’s inconsistency is “too embarrassed to follow Calvinism to its logical extreme” and pleading ignorance/mystery on hard questions (e.g., the fall of Adam/Eve).
Calvin (Institutes 3.21.5): Explicitly symmetric language —
“some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation… created for one or the other of these ends.”
Sproul: Rejects the symmetrical mode (equal ultimacy / positive-positive) as sub-Calvinist or a caricature that makes God the author of sin. He prefers asymmetric (positive election + negative reprobation/preterition: God passes over the non-elect, leaving them in their sin). Yet critics [like myself] argue this is rhetorical softening — because Sproul still affirms:
God’s decree covers all events.
Reprobation is part of the eternal decree before creation.
The non-elect are chosen to be passed over before birth.
Sproul’s distinctions, while rhetorically softer than Calvin’s, do not ultimately escape the force of double predestination or exhaustive determinism.
… The issue here seems to be how one defines “ordains” or “foreordains.” Calvinists I debate on the internet consistently argue that “ordain” means to decree. I ask them, “Did God decree the Holocaust?” “Did God decree the killing fields of Cambodia?” “Did God decree every act of rape, torture and murder that has ever taken place?” And they say yes! Unbelievable.
What about Calvin on this issue? You deny he was supralapsarian, claiming God’s positive-positive, double-predestination, but excerpts from his writings strongly suggest that was his position. Calvin was quite straightforward on saying God decreed the Fall, writing:
…whence does it happen that Adam’s fall irremediably involved so many peoples, together with their infant offspring, in eternal death unless because it so pleased God?…The decree is dreadful indeed, I confess. Yet no one can deny that God foreknew what end man was to have before he created him, and consequently foreknew because he so ordained by his decree…God not only foresaw the fall of the first man, and in him the ruin of his descendants, but also meted it out in accordance with his own decision.” (Institutes of the Christian Religion, 3.23.7)
That seems to go beyond mere “permission.” He also wrote:
The predestination by which God adopts some to the hope of life, and adjudges others to eternal death, no man who would be thought pious ventures simply to deny….By predestination we mean the eternal decree of God, by which he determined with himself whatever he wished to happen with regard to every man. All are not created on equal terms, but some are preordained to eternal life, others to eternal damnation; and, accordingly, as each has been created for one or other of these ends, we say that he has been predestinated to life or to death (Institutes of the Christian Religion 3.21.5).
We also read:
From this it is easy to conclude how foolish and frail is the support of divine justice afforded by the suggestion that evils come to be not by [God’s] will, but merely by his permission. Of course, so far as they are evils, which men perpetrate with their evil mind, as I shall show in greater detail shortly, I admit that they are not pleasing to God. But it is a quite frivolous refuge to say that God otiosely [= idly] permits them, when Scripture shows Him not only willing but the author of them…Who does not tremble at these judgments with which God works in the hearts of even the wicked whatever He will, rewarding them nonetheless according to desert. Again, it is quite clear from the evidence of Scripture that God works in the hearts of men to incline their will just as he will, whether to good for his mercy’s sake, or to evil according to their merits.” (Concerning the Eternal Predestination of God, 177)
Other famous Calvinists say, for example,
“The Sovereignty of God over all, and his independency, clearly shew, that whatever is done in time is according to his decrees in eternity.” (John Gill, A Body of Doctrinal and Practical Divinity, p. 173)
Or
“As a builder draws his plan before he begins to build, so the great Architect predestined everything before a single creature was called into existence.” (Arthur Pink, The Doctrines of Election and Justification, p.9)
Or
“Surely if God had not willed the fall, He could, and no doubt would, have prevented it; but he did not prevent it: ergo, He willed it. And if He willed it, He certainly decreed it.” (Jerome Zanchius, The Doctrine of Absolute Predestination, p. 88)
So, by claiming supralapsarianism is “anti-Calvinism,” you are dismissing not only prominent Calvinists from the past, but also Calvin himself. …
[T]heological compatibilists [RPT: like Grudem, Sproul, MacArthur, and the like] often make claims and engage in rhetoric that naturally lead people to conclude that God loves them and desires their salvation in ways that are surely misleading to all but those trained in the subtleties of Reformed rhetoric. . . . Such language loses all meaning, not to mention all rhetorical force, when we remember that on compatibilist premises God could determine the impenitent to freely repent, but has chosen instead to determine things in such a way that they freely persist in their sins.
Why No Classical Theist – Let Alone Orthodox Christian – Should Ever Be a Compatibilist (PDF)
God’s refusal to determine the repentance of sinners when it is within his power to do so can be called nothing other than immoral. Damning certain people by withholding something freely given to others is not glorious.
Sproul and Calvin say it is indeed a horrible decree. Sproul’s honesty at this point would be refreshing if his conclusions weren’t so disturbing:
“The nasty problem for the Calvinist [is] . . . . If God can and does choose to insure the salvation of some, why then does he not insure the salvation of all? . . . The only answer I can give to this question is that I don’t know. . . . One thing I do know. If it pleases God to save some and not all, there is nothing wrong with that.” On the contrary, it is the very definition of wrong.” (Fuller Quote)
Here is Sproul’s chapter 58 from his book, Essential Truths of the Christian Faith, I will add some emphasis:
PREDESTINATION AND REPROBATION
Every coin has a flip side. There is also a flip side to the doctrine of election. Election refers to only one aspect of the broader question of predestination. The other side of the coin is the question of reprobation.
God declared that He loved Jacob but hated Esau. How are we to understand this reference to divine hatred?
Predestination is double. The only way to avoid the doctrine of double predestination is to either affirm that God predestinates everybody to election or that He predestinates no one to either election or reprobation.
Since the Bible clearly teaches predestination to election and denies universal salvation, we must conclude that predestination is double. It includes both election and reprobation. Double predestination is unavoidable if we take Scripture seriously. What is crucial, however, is how double predestination is understood.
Some have viewed double predestination as a matter of equal causation, where God is equally responsible for causing the reprobate not to believe as He is for causing the elect to believe. We call this a positive-positive view of predestination.
The positive-positive view of predestination teaches that God positively and actively intervenes in the lives of the elect to work grace in their hearts and bring them to faith. Likewise, in the case of the reprobates, He works evil in the hearts of the reprobate and actively prevents them from coming to faith. This view has often been called “hyper-Calvinism” because it goes beyond the view of Calvin, Luther, and the other Reformers.
The Reformed view of double predestination follows a positive-negative schema. In the case of the elect, God intervenes to positively and actively work grace in their souls and bring them to saving faith. He unilaterally regenerates the elect and insures their salvation. In the case of the reprobate He does not work evil in them or prevent them from coming to faith. Rather, He passes over them, leaving them to their own sinful devices. In this view there is no symmetry of divine action. God’s activity is asymmetrical between the elect and the reprobate. There is, however, a kind of equal ultimacy. The reprobate, who are passed over by God, are ultimately doomed, and their damnation is as certain and sure as the ultimate salvation of the elect.
The problem is linked to biblical statements such as those regarding God’s hardening of Pharaoh’s heart. That the Bible says God hardened Pharaoh’s heart is beyond dispute. The question remains, how did God harden Pharaoh? Luther argued for a passive rather than an active hardening. That is, God did not create fresh evil in Pharaoh’s heart. There was already enough evil present in Pharaoh’s heart to incline him to resist the will of God at every turn. All God ever has to do to harden anybody is to remove His restraining grace from them and give them over to their own evil impulses. This is precisely what God does to the damned in hell. He abandons them to their own wickedness.
In what sense did God “hate” Esau? Two different explanations are offered to solve this problem. The first explains it by defining hate not as a negative passion directed toward Esau but as simply the absence of redemptive love. That God “loved” Jacob simply means that He made Jacob the recipient of His unmerited grace. He gave Jacob a benefit that Jacob did not deserve. Esau did not receive the same benefit and in that sense was hated by God.
The first explanation sounds a bit like special pleading to get God off the hook for hating somebody. The second explanation gives more strength to the word hate. It says simply that God did in fact hate Esau. Esau was odious in the sight of God. There was nothing in Esau for God to love.
Esau was a vessel fit for destruction and altogether worthy of God’s wrath and holy hatred. Let the reader decide.
Summary
Predestination is double; it has two sides to it.
Some teach that God is equally responsible for election and reprobation. This is characteristic of hyper-Calvinism.
The Reformed view of double predestination reflects a positive-negative schema.
God passively, not actively, hardened Pharaoh’s heart.
God hated Esau in the sense of failing to give him a blessing of grace or in the sense of abhorring him as a vessel fit for destruction.
In other words, as The Encyclopedia of The Reformed Faith (page 144), and later the The Westminster Handbook to Reformed Theology (page 87) clearly says:
The Reformed approach to divine freedom is nowhere more apparent than in the doctrine of the eternal decrees: God freely wills the existence and preservation of the created order and freely determines the eternal destiny of all creatures, solely on the ground of God’s goodness and solely for the sake of God’s ultimate glory. In creation and providence, God encounters no barriers to the exercise of God’s will, and in the work of redemption God acts utterly graciously, apart from any merit belonging to the creature.
[….]
Reformed theology has followed an Augustinian paradigm in its understanding of human freedom…
Donald K. McKim and David F. Wright, eds., Encyclopedia of the Reformed Faith (Louisville, KY: Westminster John Knox Press, 1992), 144,146.
JOHN 6:44
Steve Lemke
R. C. Sproul argued at great length that John 6:44 (“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him” [HCSB]) does not refer merely to the necessity that God “woo or entice men to Christ,” such that humans can “resist this wooing” and “refuse the enticement.”11 In philosophical language, Sproul said, this wooing is a necessary but not sufficient condition for salvation “because the wooing does not, in fact, guarantee that we will come to Christ.”12 Sproul stated that such an interpretation is “incorrect” and “does violence to the text of Scripture.”13
Instead, Sproul insists, the term “draw” is “a much more forceful concept than to woo” and means “to compel by irresistible superiority.”14 However, in discussing irresistible grace, Sproul tells of a student who, hearing a lecture on predestination by John Gerstner, rejected it. When Gerstner asked the student how he defined Calvinism, the student described it as the perspective that “God forces some people to choose Christ and prevents other people from choosing Christ.” Gerstner then said, “If that is what a Calvinist is, then you can be sure that I am not a Calvinist either.”15What is the difference between compelling “by irresistible superiority” and “forcing” people to do something? Sproul likewise chastised a Presbyterian seminary president for rejecting the Calvinist doctrine that “God brings some people, kicking and screaming against their wills, into the kingdom.” Sproul described this Presbyterian theologian’s view as “a gross misconception of his own church’s theology,” as a “caricature,” and “as far away from Calvinism as one could possibly get.”16 So which way is it? If God compels people with “irresistible superiority,” in what way is it inaccurate to say that God forces people to choose Christ? The Synod of Dort insisted that such attempts at moral persuasion of unsaved persons was wasted time. The irresistibility of God’s grace (and not merely the use of strong moral persuasion) was precisely what the Synod of Dort rejected and the Remonstrants affirmed. While the Remonstrants affirmed that the compelling grace of God persuades the lost to receive Christ as Lord and Savior, the Synod of Dort insisted that this was not going far enough. Note their explicit denial that a person can “resist” God. The language used in the Synod of Dort describes God’s omnipotence as being such that God can “potently and infallibly bend man’s will to faith and conversion.”17
Bending the will of a fallible being by an omnipotent Being powerfully and unfailingly is not merely sweet persuasion. It is forcing one to change one’s mind against one’s will. Calvinists often describe their position as monergism as opposed to synergism. In monergism, God works entirely alone, apart from any human role.18
11. Sproul, Chosen by God, 69–70 (see chap. 1, n. 106). 12. Sproul, 69. 13. Sproul, 69. 14. Sproul, 69. 15. Sproul, 122. 16. Sproul, 122. 17. Dennison, Reformed Confessions, 4:143 (III–IV, Rejection of Errors, par. 8).
John Wagner’s Letter to Sproul
… Let me deal next with the issue of your concept and use of the Greek word helkō, commonly translated “draws” in John 6:44. Even if you reject everything else I write here, please accept this one. You really did not get this right. And Calvinists who have read CBG have passed on this incorrect information. You quoted Kittel’s Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, and claim because that word means “drag” or “compel” in a physical context such as Acts 16:19 and James 2:6, that therefore it means “drag” or “compel” in the spiritual context of John 6:44.
The evidence indicates it doesn’t. I assume you are aware that a Greek word can have more than one meaning. I looked at Kittel and I see for helkō in regard to John (i.e. 6:44, 12:32) it means, “a beneficent ‘drawing of God…of drawing to oneself in love. This usage is distinctively developed by Jn., perhaps with some influence of Gnosticism. Force or magic may be discounted, but not the supernatural element.” The abridged version of Kittel says, “There is no thought here of force or magic. The term figuratively expresses the supernatural power of the love of God or Christ which goes out to all (12:32) but without which no one can come.”
Did you get that? Both summaries dismiss force, which would be consistent with “drag” or “compel” (though I agree that would be accurate when the word is used in a physical context). Just wondering why you didn’t mention that! Let’s put your position to rest with more citations:
BDAG: has helkō in John 6:44 as “draw, attract.”
Analytical Lexicon to the Greek New Testament by William Mounce says helkō means “to draw mentally and morally, John 6:44; 12:32.”
The Hebrew-Greek Key Study Bible by Calvinist Spiro Zodhiates: “Helko is used of Jesus on the cross drawing by love, not force” (Jn. 6:44; 12:32).
A Critical Lexicon and Concordance to the English and Greek New Testament by Ethelbert W. Bullinger, p. 235: Helko means “to draw, esp. implying a certain attraction mentally or morally; also to draw to a certain point.” This source also mentions surō as a word more consistent with how Calvinists interpret helkō. Surō generally implies a violent dragging. This source defines it as “to draw, drag or trail along as a net; esp. with the notion of force and sometimes with violence.”
The Renaissance New Testament by Randolph Yeager, says about helkō:
It does not necessarily involve coercion, though it does involve persuasion and motivation–John 6:44; 12:32…. [Helkō] does not imply coercion in the two places where it is applied to the elect [the two just-mentioned verses]. Swords, fish nets and political prisoners (John 18:10; 21:6, 11: Acts 16:19) may resist, but the element of resistance is not implicit in the word itself….
Greek and English Lexicon of the New Testament by Edward Robinson, say helkō means “to draw by a moral influence, John 6:44, 12:32.”
Please notice that none of these sources indicate that helkō means drag or compel in John 6:44. And your version is especially problematic for John 12:32. Do you believe God drags all men to himself? So it’s kind of funny that the Arminian professor you debated didn’t need to cite some “obscure Greek poet.” The info is clear in many lexicons and similar sources. And by the way, contrary to what you experienced, in the formal 1999 debate I was in against a Calvinist pastor, he repeated your argument on helkō and I nailed him on this point.
And that ties into the issue of the nature of unsaved man. You write, “If a person who is still in the flesh, who is not reborn by the power of the Holy Spirit, can incline or dispose himself to Christ, what good is rebirth?” This is another strawman. Classical Arminians do not believe man can “incline or dispose himself ” all by himself. Arminius wrote strongly of man being depraved and dead and that man needs the heavy convicting and drawing of the Holy Spirit. However, he completely rejected irresistible grace, the biggest oxymoron I can think of. And as for rebirth, that comes after faith, not before.
You slightly acknowledge the idea of prevenient grace and then ask “If so, where” does the Bible teach this concept? Did you even make any effort toward finding an answer for this? Well, John 6:44, which I have proven is not about “dragging,” is one. Furthermore, let’s recall John 16:8, saying that the paraclete “will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment in regard to sin because men do not believe in me.”
The Greek for “convict” is elenchō, and has the connotation of a trial attorney making a legal and moral argument to a jury. In this case, the Holy Spirit conducts that function in the human heart—but not in irresistible manner. Other verses include John 1:9: “The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.” Also, John 12:32, in which Christ says, “When I am lifted up from the earth. I will draw (helkō) all men to myself.” But this is also not irresistible.
Describing prevenient grace, Thomas C. Oden writes:
Prevenient grace antecedes human responsiveness so as to prepare the soul for the effective hearing of the redeeming Word. This preceding grace draws persons closer to God, lessens their blindness to divine remedies, strengthens their will to accept revealed truth, and enables repentance. Only when sinners are assisted by prevenient grace can they begin to yield their hearts to cooperation with subsequent forms of grace….
Does scripture teach the concept of prevenient grace? There is no one passage that lays out a systematic definition of it, however, the concept becomes apparent throughout the overall tenor of scripture. Here are some passages that refer to the different aspects of prevenient grace:
Prevenient Grace Draws:
John 6:44 No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.
John 12:32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself. Prevenient Grace is Universal:
Titus 2:11 For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. John 1:9 The true light that gives light to every man was coming into the world.
John 16:7-8 But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. When he comes, he will convict the world of guilt in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment:
Romans 1:18-19 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
Prevenient Grace Convicts the Non-Believer:
Acts 16:14 One of those listening was a woman named Lydia, a dealer in purple cloth from the city of Thyatira, who was a worshiper of God. The Lord opened her heart to respond to Paul’s message.
Acts 16:29-30 The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. He then brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”
Prevenient Grace Works in Combination with the Hearing of the Word:
Acts 2:37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”
Romans 10:17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word of Christ.
Prevenient Grace is Given Generously:
Romans 8:32 He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things?
Romans 2:4 Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?
Acts 17:26-27 From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us.
Prevenient Grace Can be Rejected:
Matt. 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
John 5:34,39,40 Not that I accept human testimony; but I mention it that you may be saved…You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
Acts 7:51 You stiff-necked people, with uncircumcised hearts and ears! You are just like your fathers: You always resist the Holy Spirit!
Heb 4:2 For we also have had the gospel preached to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because those who heard did not combine it with faith.
Heb 10:29 How much more severely do you think a man deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God under foot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified him, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?
Prevenient Grace Results in Saving Grace when it is Accepted:
Ephesians 5:14 For it is light that makes everything visible. This is why it is said: “Wake up, O sleeper, rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you.”
Ephesians 2:8-9 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast.
There are actually three very good books on this issue of prevenient grace: The Transforming Power of Grace by Thomas C. Oden, Prevenient Grace by W. Brian Shelton, and Streams of Mercy by J. Gregory Crofford. …
BTW, I prefer pastor Rogers understanding vs a straight Arminian:
Within the Non-Calvinist camp, there are at least two nuanced views on how God allows sinners to respond in faith. The first view is the Arminian view — which says that God’s work of grace (prevenient grace) for all people is needed to enable any sinner to freely choose to respond in faith to the Gospel message. The second view is the Provisionist View — which says that the Gospel message itself [see more below] is God’s work of grace so that when it is preached to all people, any sinner can freely choose to respond in faith. The proclamation of the Gospel is powerfully sufficient enough to bring salvation to those who will believe. While the Arminian and the Provisionist each have a different take on why all humans can respond to God’s offer, these two views both affirm the importance of God’s initiative of grace to invite all sinners to salvation. (from the book Grace For All: Understanding God’s Plan of Salvation).
— Michael R. Cariño
The “More Below”
Grace Enablements
Includes but are not limited to: God’s salvific love for all (John 3:16), God’s manifestation of his power so that all may know he is the Sovereign (Isa 45:21–22) and Creator (Rom 1:18–20), which assures that everyone has opportunity to know about him. Christ paying for all sins (John 1:29), conviction of the Holy Spirit (John 16:7–11), working of the Holy Spirit (Heb 6:1–6), enlightening of the Son (John 1:9), God’s teaching (John 6:45), God opening minds and hearts (Luke 24:45; Acts 16:14; 26:17–18;), and the power of the gospel (Rom 1:16), without such redemptive grace, no one seeks or comes to God (Rom 3:11).
Because of these gracious provisions and workings of God, man can choose to seek and find God (Jer 29:13; Acts 17:11–12). Moreover, no one can come to God without God calling (Acts 2:39), drawing (John 6:44), and that God is drawing all individuals (John 12:32). The same Greek word for draw, helkuō, is used in both verses. “About 115 passages condition salvation on believing alone, and about 35 simply on faith.” Other grace enablements may include providential workings in and through other people, situations, and timing or circumstances that are a part of grace to provide an opportunity for every individual to choose to follow Christ.
These are grace enablements in at least three ways; first, they are provided by God’s grace rather than deserved by mankind; second, the necessary components for each and every individual to have a genuine opportunity to believe unto salvation are provided or restored by God; third, they are provided by God without respect to whether the individual will believe or reject, which response God knew in eternity past.
The offer of the gospel is unconditional, but God sovereignly determined to condition the reception of the offer upon grace-enabled faith; therefore, faith is not reflective of a work or virtue of man, but of God’s sovereign plan of salvation by grace through faith (Eph 2:8). This indicates faith is the means to being regenerated and saved, not the reason for being saved. This truth of Scripture does not imply God is held captive to the choice of man, but rather it demonstrates God in eternity coextensively determined to create man with otherwise choice and provide a genuine offer of salvation, which can be accepted by grace-enabled faith or rejected. Additionally, to fulfill this plan, God is not obligated to disseminate the gospel to people he knows have rejected the light he has given them (Rom 1:18–23) and will also reject the gospel; although he may still send the gospel to them.
Sproul continues his thinking is an audio message I have audio of here. In it he says:
Augustine said, I still, in my fallenness, have the ability to choose what I want, but in my heart there’s no desire for God. I have lost any desire for the things of God. If I’m left to myself, the desires of my heart are only wicked continuously. My heart and my soul are dead to the things of God.
I can listen to preaching, I can hear hymns, I can see — I can do all those things and see other people weeping and in ecstasy and all moved by all kinds of religious overtones and consideration.
It leaves me cold.
My heart has calluses on it. It’s recalcitrant.
My neck is stiff.
I’m not moved by anything that has anything to do with God. That’s our natural state. The Bible says that we are dead to the things of God in our fallen condition. Original sin deadens the soul to the things of God.
God so loved the world, He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth should not perish, but have everlasting life. And I have people quote that to me, to say man is not fallen to such a degree that he’s lost his power to choose Christ, because that verse says that whosoever believeth will not perish, but have everlasting life.
Now, what does that verse teach us about the extent of the fall of man? Absolutely nothing. It doesn’t say who will believe in Christ. All it says is, if you do A, if you believe, you will not perish, and you will have everlasting — you will live forever.
But the question still is left, Why does one person believe and another person not believe?
Augustine said, Now, you’re dead in your sins and trespasses. You don’t have any desire for Christ, and the only way you will ever choose Christ is if God melts your heart, if God softens that stone-cold, recalcitrant heart, if God the Holy Spirit rapes your soul and puts in you a desire for Christ.
That’s what has to happen.
According to Augustine.
And many try to do away with this control of God through what is called “compatibilism”, but as MacArthur notes, this is fictitious in the end:
In order to understand this better theologians have come up with the term “compatibilism” to describe the concurrence of God’s sovereignty and man’s responsibility. Compatibilism is a form of determinism, and it should be noted that this position is no less deterministic than hard determinism.
John Hendryx (John Hendryx is the creator and editor of Monergism . com)
And then this is John MacArthur:
So free will trumps evil on God’s value scale, so God had to allow for the possibility of evil in order to protect the more highly prized autonomy; and He had to protect autonomy to protect Himself from this bad press, being responsible for evil. Humans then must have self-determination, freedom to act. If God acted as the primary cause and humans only as a secondary cause moved by the primary cause, then God being the primary cause is responsible; and people are not free, and therefore God decided and God compelled and God coerced, and God actually overturned human will. Then God is responsible for all the evil and all the divine judgment and the determination of eternal punishment. This is a God that some people just can’t live with; they’ve got to get Him off the hook.
This passage is John MacArthur directly describing (and strongly rejecting) the popular “free will defense” theodicy. He uses it to contrast with his own high Calvinist / compatibilist view of God’s sovereignty.
Some AI convo:
Yes. If we define determinism as:
Every human choice is ultimately rendered certain by God’s decree and providential causation, such that no person could ultimately do otherwise than what God ordained,
then John MacArthur is unquestionably on the deterministic side of the spectrum.
The important thing is that MacArthur would almost certainly reject the label “fatalist”, and he would likely prefer “compatibilist” or “Reformed”, but philosophically speaking, compatibilism is a species of determinism. Hendryx is correct on that point.
The key question is:
Does MacArthur believe humans possess libertarian freedom (the ability to choose A or not-A under identical circumstances)?
The answer is no.
The MacArthur Quote You Posted
The fascinating thing about that quotation is that MacArthur is not denying determinism.
He is describing what he believes his opponents fear determinism entails.
Notice the structure:
“If God acted as the primary cause…“
“If God compelled…“
“If God actually overturned human will…“
“Then God is responsible…“
MacArthur is setting up the objection.
The question becomes:
Does MacArthur believe God does these things?
Elsewhere he clearly teaches:
Total inability
Unconditional election
Irresistible grace
Monergistic regeneration
God’s exhaustive sovereignty
Those doctrines require that God determine who will believe.
Compare MacArthur to Sproul
Sproul says:
“The only way you will ever choose Christ is if God melts your heart.”
Then he quotes Augustine:
“God the Holy Spirit rapes your soul and puts in you a desire for Christ.”
Sproul is being more explicit.
MacArthur teaches the same monergistic regeneration, but usually with softer language.
Both affirm:
Fallen man cannot come.
God must first regenerate.
Regeneration guarantees faith.
Those not regenerated remain unable.
That is deterministic in the relevant philosophical sense.
The Real Tell: MacArthur on Election
MacArthur repeatedly teaches:
God chose the elect before creation.
The elect will certainly come.
The non-elect will not come.
Faith itself is a gift from God.
Once those propositions are accepted, the outcome is fixed.
That is why Hendryx says:
“Compatibilism is a form of determinism.”
Because the certainty of the outcome remains intact.
The Important Distinction
A lot of Calvinists hear:
“determinism”
and immediately think:
“atheistic hard determinism.”
But philosophers don’t define determinism that way.
Determinism simply means:
Given the causes and conditions, only one outcome is possible.
MacArthur’s theology appears to satisfy that definition.
Why Your Argument Finds Tension Here
What’s interesting is that the quotation you cited almost sounds like MacArthur is describing your objection:
If God is the primary cause and humans are merely secondary causes moved by Him, then God becomes responsible.
The difficulty is that Calvin, Sproul, Piper, and many Reformed theologians frequently describe God as:
determining wills,
inclining hearts,
ordaining evil events,
governing every detail,
and ensuring outcomes.
So critics ask:
If God determines the desires, determines the will, determines the outcome, and determines who receives regenerating grace, how is He not functioning as the primary determining cause?
That is the exact issue your series has been exploring.
In Short
If by determinism you mean:
Human choices are rendered certain by God’s eternal decree and providential governance, with no ultimate ability to do otherwise,
then:
Calvin = Determinist
Edwards = Determinist
Sproul = Determinist
Piper = Determinist
MacArthur = Determinist
Hendryx explicitly admits compatibilism is determinism
The real debate is not whether these men are deterministic.
The real debate is whether compatibilist determinism can preserve meaningful moral responsibility, justice, and divine goodness.
That’s where the battle shifts from historical theology into philosophy.
This video is long, but has turned into one of my favorites!
Calvinist’s Fatal Flaw: Guilty Babies
Dr. Leighton Flowers plays a clip from Jeremiah Notier, aka The Apologetic Dog, in which he accuses Dr. Flowers of being a “Pelagian” because I do not affirm the concept that all babies are born guilty and deserving of Hell.
GOSPEL COALITION article summary
One-Paragraph Summary
The article defends the Reformed doctrine of double predestination/reprobation, arguing that God’s eternal decree includes both the unconditional election of some individuals to salvation and the passing over of others, who are ultimately condemned according to divine justice. It appeals particularly to Pharaoh and Romans 9, arguing that God actively hardened Pharaoh and raised him up to display His glory, and that Paul’s “vessels of mercy” and “vessels of wrath” describe God’s sovereign distinction between individuals. The article further argues that reprobation logically follows from unconditional election: if God unconditionally chooses some but not all for salvation, then the others are necessarily excluded from that saving choice. It distinguishes preterition, God’s withholding of saving grace, from predamnation, God’s determination to judge the non-elect according to justice. Although Reformed theology maintains an asymmetry between election and reprobation, the article nevertheless places both salvation and condemnation within God’s eternal sovereign decree rather than treating the damnation of the non-elect as merely something God foreknows or passively permits.
The article is a defense of the Augustinian/Reformed doctrine of reprobation, which teaches that God’s eternal decree concerns not only those whom He chooses to save, but also those whom He does not choose to save. In the author’s formulation, reprobation involves God eternally withholding saving grace from certain individuals and determining to judge them according to divine justice. The author therefore understands reprobation as more than God’s foreknowledge that certain people will reject Him; their exclusion from saving grace and ultimate condemnation fall within God’s sovereign eternal decree.
The article develops this position in three primary ways.
Scripture Teaches Reprobation
The author argues that Scripture directly supports reprobation, with Pharaoh and Romans 9 serving as the principal examples. In the Exodus account, the author rejects the interpretation that God hardened Pharaoh merely as a response to Pharaoh’s prior self-hardening. Instead, the article argues that God announced beforehand that He would harden Pharaoh and raised him up for the purpose of displaying His power and glory.
Romans 9 is presented as the clearest New Testament explanation of this principle. The author interprets Paul’s discussion of the “vessels of mercy” and “vessels of wrath” as teaching that God sovereignly distinguishes between individuals, preparing some for mercy and enduring others who are prepared for destruction. The purpose is ultimately God’s glory: His mercy and grace are displayed toward the elect while His wrath and power are displayed toward those destined for destruction.
Reprobation Logically Follows From Unconditional Election
This is one of the article’s most important arguments.
If salvation depends upon God’s unconditional choice of particular individuals, and God does not choose everyone, then there must necessarily be individuals whom God does not choose for salvation.
The author therefore argues that unconditional election necessarily entails reprobation. Simply calling the position “single predestination”—God predestines some to salvation but does not predestine anyone to condemnation—does not resolve the problem. According to the article, such a view leaves the destiny of the non-elect outside God’s purposeful decree, which the author considers inconsistent with God’s comprehensive sovereignty.
The argument is therefore:
Unconditional election → some are chosen → others are not chosen →
their exclusion from saving grace falls within God’s sovereign decree.
God’s sovereignty extends over salvation and human choices
The article’s argument does not stop with election. It presents God’s sovereignty as extending over everything that comes to pass, including human choices. Consequently, the distinction between those who believe and those who reject Christ ultimately falls under God’s sovereign will.
The doctrine is also presented as spiritually beneficial because it humbles humanity. Rather than viewing humanity as the ultimate reference point, believers are reminded that human beings exist for God’s glory and that God’s purposes, rather than human preferences, determine reality.
The Two Aspects of Reprobation
The article makes an important distinction between two aspects of reprobation:
Preterition — the negative aspect: God eternally chooses not to extend saving grace to particular individuals. The article says this decision is not based on foreseen works, merit, or sin, but on God’s sovereign will.
Predamnation — the positive aspect: God eternally determines to deal with those individuals according to divine justice. Reformed theologians disagree over whether this decree itself is conditioned upon foreseen or actual sin, but the article maintains that the ultimate condemnation of these individuals is included within God’s sovereign purpose.
The article goes further and states that the Augustinian/Reformed tradition agrees that God predestines certain individuals to be justly punished, and that at least some aspect of this reprobation is not based on foreseen sin but on God’s good pleasure, with the purpose of magnifying His justice and grace.
Is This Double Predestination?
In substance, yes. The article is defending a form of double predestination, although it insists that election and reprobation are not perfectly symmetrical. The distinction can be summarized this way:
The author specifically identifies the “asymmetry between election and reprobation” as an important qualification within Reformed theology. Thus, the article is not merely saying that God permits some people to reject Him. Its position is substantially stronger:
God’s eternal decree establishes both who will receive saving grace and who will be passed over, with the non-elect ultimately being condemned according to divine justice.
And the author’s fundamental argument is that this conclusion follows from the combination of unconditional election, God’s exhaustive sovereignty, and the author’s interpretation of passages such as Pharaoh and Romans 9.
BABIES DESTINED TO HELL
Mind you, I am not the biggest fan of Faith On Fire, but once in a while there is really good stuff. It is 10-minutes long, here is his description:
Christianity is under attack more today than ever, and a big part of that attack comes from Calvinists. Did God create billons of people that God never wanted? Calvinism teaches that God did exactly. Calvinists want people to believe that the God of the Bible has predestined billions of people to hell before they were ever born. They think God has kept any hope of salvation from most people on purpose for His own glory and so God can demonstrate His wrath on them because God ordained and decreed their eternal punishment before the foundation of the world. They believe God reserves salvation for only some preselected elect people who are saved unconditionally by God’s grace.
According to Calvinism, Satan wants all people to join him in hell and the lake of fire, and they think God wants only most people to join Satan in hell and the lake of fire, and Satan doesn’t even have much of anything to do with any of it because it was all meticulously and divinely determined by God before Creation anyway.
TULIP or the 5 points of Calvinism are doctrines of salvation unique and distinctive to Calvinism, not Biblical Christianity. Those Calvinistic doctrines are from Satan and I expose the implications of them and the dangerous errors of that theology.
KINDA THE SUMMARY OF THE ABOVE [added to by RPT]
The Argument
Heaven is infinitely better than earthly life. If a person dies in infancy and is therefore guaranteed eternal joy with God, then death produces an infinitely greater outcome than continued earthly existence. If that same child survives, however, the outcome is no longer certain. The child may eventually believe and be saved—or reject Christ and be lost.
On the assumption that all infants who die are saved, death in infancy cannot result in hell. The theological premise establishes a guaranteed positive eternal outcome. The child loses earthly life, but does not lose salvation. Indeed, the child is removed from the possibility of later rejecting Christ and experiencing eternal condemnation.
Continued life therefore introduces a risk that did not previously exist. The infant who dies remains within the category of guaranteed salvation. The infant who survives eventually becomes a morally accountable person whose eternal destiny, under the same theological system, is no longer universally guaranteed. Poverty, abuse, family circumstances, unbelieving parents, cultural influences, and personal rejection of the gospel can all become factors in that person’s earthly and spiritual history.
This creates an uncomfortable asymmetry. If universal infant salvation is true, then preserving an infant’s earthly life simultaneously preserves the possibility of that person’s eternal salvation and the possibility of eternal loss. Death removes the second possibility entirely. Thus, within the stated theological premises, earthly life is not an unqualified spiritual benefit; it is also an exposure to the possibility of damnation.
The argument cannot simply appeal to the value of earthly life without addressing the theological premise. If the decisive consideration is that every human life must be preserved because earthly life is intrinsically preferable to death, then that principle needs to be reconciled with the claim that death in infancy results in guaranteed eternal happiness. Likewise, saying that humans must never interfere with God’s timing does not by itself resolve the underlying question: Why is death unquestionably tragic if the death of an infant guarantees the very heavenly outcome that the believer regards as infinitely superior to earthly existence?
The same reasoning raises a broader question about moral consistency. If the theological argument works because infants who die are guaranteed salvation, one must explain why that principle stops at infancy. If accountability is the relevant dividing line, then the argument necessarily raises questions about children who have not yet reached that threshold. If the argument does not extend beyond infancy, then the theological basis for making infancy the decisive boundary must be identified.
The central A→B problem is therefore this:
A: Every infant who dies is guaranteed eternal salvation.
B: Continued earthly life introduces the possibility that the child will eventually reject Christ and be eternally lost.
Question: Why should earthly preservation be treated as an unequivocal spiritual good when, according to A and B, preserving earthly life also preserves the possibility of eternal damnation?
The force of the argument is not that abortion is thereby proven morally permissible. Rather, it exposes a tension within the theological premises themselves. If universal infant salvation is asserted, then the believer must explain why preventing the loss of earthly life is necessarily more important than preventing the possibility of eternal loss. Simply saying that earthly life is valuable does not answer the theological question; it changes the question from
“What happens eternally to this child?”
to
“Is earthly life intrinsically valuable even when it introduces the possibility of eternal damnation?”
Romans 9:20 (The Premise): The top header notes that Romans 9:20 quotes one of these Old Testament passages (“But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? ‘Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, “Why did you make me like this?”‘”).
Isaiah 29:16: Described as “The one Paul quotes. The clay denies its maker sees.” In context, this verse rebukes those who try to hide their plans from the Lord, acting as if the clay has more knowledge than the potter.
Isaiah 45:9: Described as “God frees a Gentile. Cyrus, for Israel’s rescue.” This passage warns against arguing with one’s Creator, set against the backdrop of God sovereignly choosing Cyrus (a pagan king) to liberate Israel.
2 Timothy 2:21: Described as “Paul’s own potter. The vessel purges itself.” This verse emphasizes human responsibility, stating that if a person cleanses themselves from dishonorable things, they will become a vessel instrument for noble purposes.
Jeremiah 18: Described as “Marred and remade. He relents when the nation turns.” This passage shows that the potter reshapes the clay based on its response, illustrating that God alters His planned judgment if a nation repents.
Isaiah 64:8: Described as “The clay calls him Father, asks mercy, and is heard.” A communal prayer of confession acknowledging God as the potter and Father, pleading for Him not to remain angry forever.
Job 10:9: Described as “The clay pleads its case. Job is called blameless.” Job remembers that God molded him like clay and questions why he is facing such intense, seemingly unprovoked suffering.
Paul did not invent the potter in Romans 9. He quoted it. Five words straight from Isaiah 29:16.
Isaiah 29
The clay there is hiding its works and saying:
“Who seeth us?” — Isaiah 29:15
Paul is answering a man who ducked behind God’s power to escape his own guilt.
Then read the rest.
Jeremiah 18
The vessel is marred and remade, and God says why:
“If that nation… turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil.” — Jeremiah 18:8
Isaiah 64
The clay calls the potter Father and asks mercy.
It is not rebuked.
Paul’s Own Potter — 2 Timothy 2
How does a vessel become a vessel of honour?
“If a man therefore purge himself.” — 2 Timothy 2:21
Every potter in Scripture relents, frees, listens, or is purged by the man himself.
Not one shapes a vessel for the fire and gives the clay no say.
Not even Paul’s.
And a Helpful Resource on the Potter-and-Clay Metaphor (HERE)
Israel Steinmetz’s article, “Salvation by Design or Determination? Re-examining the Potter-and-Clay Metaphor,” takes a fresh look at Romans 9 by asking an important question: What did Paul mean by the potter-and-clay imagery, and where did that imagery come from? Steinmetz argues that Paul was not inventing a new metaphor but drawing heavily from the Old Testament, particularly Isaiah 29, Isaiah 45, Isaiah 64, and Jeremiah 18.
One of the article’s strongest points is its treatment of Isaiah 29:16, the passage behind Paul’s statement in Romans 9:20. Isaiah 29 is not presenting clay as an utterly passive object with no moral responsibility. The surrounding context concerns people attempting to hide their works from God and questioning God’s knowledge of them. The passage ultimately moves toward repentance and restoration. Steinmetz therefore argues that the potter-and-clay metaphor emphasizes God’s design and authority, but not the deterministic conclusion that God unconditionally determines the eternal destiny of passive individuals.
The discussion of Jeremiah 18 is even more explicit. God sends Jeremiah to watch a potter reshape a marred vessel and then applies the illustration to Israel. God says that if a nation turns from its evil, He will relent concerning the judgment He announced; likewise, if a nation turns to evil, He will reconsider the good He had intended for it. Steinmetz sees this as demonstrating that the biblical potter metaphor involves a dynamic relationship between God and His creatures, rather than a picture of God mechanically determining an unchangeable outcome.
Steinmetz also brings the discussion back to Paul himself, pointing to 2 Timothy 2:20–21, where Paul describes vessels and then says that the person who cleanses himself becomes “an instrument for special purposes.” This reinforces the article’s larger argument: when the Old Testament background and Paul’s own usage are considered together, the potter-and-clay imagery does not require the Calvinistic concept of human beings as passive clay whose eternal destinies are unconditionally determined by God.
The article ultimately argues that “the point of the potter-and-clay metaphor is design, not determination.” That’s particularly relevant to the argument in this post because it challenges the assumption that Romans 9 can be interpreted independently of the Old Testament passages Paul is invoking.
Recommended reading: Israel Steinmetz, “Salvation by Design or Determination? Re-examining the Potter-and-Clay Metaphor,” Firebrand Magazine, August 13, 2024.
Charles Edward White’s “Does God Call All the Shots?” challenges the Calvinist interpretation of Romans 9 by arguing that Paul’s discussion must be understood within the larger context of Romans 9–11 and the Old Testament passages Paul draws upon. White argues that Romans 9 is primarily dealing with God’s purposes concerning Israel, the Gentiles, faith, and unbelief—not teaching that God unconditionally determines the eternal destiny of every individual.
White also examines Paul’s use of Jacob and Esau, Pharaoh, and the potter-and-clay imagery. His treatment of the potter is particularly relevant here. He argues that the Old Testament passages behind Romans 9—including Isaiah 29, Isaiah 45, Isaiah 64, and Jeremiah 18—do not portray human beings as passive lumps of clay whose eternal destinies are unconditionally determined by God. Instead, they repeatedly portray God as sovereign while also responding to human actions. White even points to Paul’s own use of vessel imagery in 2 Timothy 2:21, where a person becomes a vessel for honorable use by cleansing himself.
White’s argument therefore provides a direct challenge to the common Calvinist assumption that Romans 9’s potter-and-clay imagery necessarily teaches exhaustive divine determinism. His larger point is that God’s sovereignty does not require human beings to be passive or morally irrelevant participants in His dealings with them.
The video I clipped will follow the summary. After the video is the full transcript of the clip I excerpted. Enjoy:
Summary of Each Speaker’s Main Points
James White
James White argues that John 6:44–45 describes an effectual work of God in which the Father draws people to Christ by causing them to hear and learn from Him. White connects the statements in verses 44 and 45: those whom the Father draws are the same people who hear and learn from the Father, come to Christ, and are raised up on the last day. He therefore understands the drawing in John 6 as something ultimately accomplished by God rather than something that merely makes salvation possible.
White also argues that appeals to John 12:32—where Jesus says that He will draw “all men” to Himself—create a problem for interpretations that understand “all” as every individual without exception while also making the drawing in John 6 effectual. If everyone is drawn in exactly the same effectual sense, White argues, universalism would follow. He therefore treats the distinction between John 6 and John 12 as important to his argument against non-Calvinist interpretations.
A major part of White’s argument concerns John 6:45: “they shall all be taught by God.” He asks Flowers to consider what would happen to his theology if the hearing and learning described in the passage were the result of God’s effective action—if God Himself causes the individual to hear and learn. White treats Flowers’ answer—that if this were true, the five points of Calvinism would follow—as an admission that the passage supports his position.
White therefore presents the exchange as evidence that Flowers effectively conceded the crucial point during the debate.
Leighton Flowers
Leighton Flowers argues that White is answering an argument that Flowers is not actually making. Flowers maintains that his interpretation of John 6 does not require the Father to be drawing every individual at that point in Jesus’ ministry. Instead, he understands the Father as drawing those Israelites who had listened to and learned from God through Moses and the prophets to the Son. The immediate context, in Flowers’ interpretation, concerns the remnant of Israel being brought to Christ.
Flowers then distinguishes John 6 from John 12. He argues that John 12:32 describes a later stage in salvation history, after the Son is lifted up. At that point Jesus says He will draw “all men” to Himself. Flowers understands this as the expansion of God’s redemptive work beyond Israel to the nations, rather than as a statement that every individual will inevitably be saved. He therefore rejects White’s claim that his interpretation necessarily leads to universalism.
Flowers also rejects the assumption that being taught or drawn by God means being irresistibly regenerated. He argues that God’s teaching can be genuine and powerful while remaining resistible. His teacher analogy illustrates the point: a teacher can sincerely teach students and desire that they learn, while some students nevertheless refuse to listen. In such a case, the student’s refusal does not demonstrate that the teacher secretly intended only certain students to learn.
Flowers’ argument therefore challenges a crucial Calvinist inference:
God teaches → therefore God effectually causes the person to believe.
Flowers accepts the first proposition but rejects the necessity of the second.
Flowers also appeals to Jesus’ use of parables. He argues that Jesus sometimes deliberately concealed truth from people who otherwise could hear, understand, and turn. Flowers sees this as significant because, if Calvinism is correct that unregenerate people are incapable of believing until they are first regenerated, then Jesus would not need to conceal the truth from them in order to prevent their belief. He could simply leave them unregenerated.
Flowers instead interprets the parables and the hardening of Israel as part of God’s redemptive-historical purpose leading to the crucifixion.
This leads Flowers into Romans 9–11. He argues that the hardening of Israel should not automatically be interpreted as evidence that particular individuals were eternally reprobated from birth. He points to Romans 11:23, where those who were cut off because of unbelief can be grafted back in if they do not remain in unbelief. Flowers therefore understands the hardening as judicial and connected to God’s larger redemptive plan involving Israel, the Gentiles, the crucifixion, and the eventual possibility of Israel’s restoration.
Finally, Flowers rejects White’s characterization of their debate exchange as a concession. Flowers argues that White’s question was conditional:
if White’s interpretation were true, then Calvinism would follow.
Flowers’ response acknowledged the logical consequence of White’s premise without conceding that the premise itself was true.
In Flowers’ view, that premise—the claim that God effectually causes the hearing and learning in John 6—is precisely the issue being debated.
Flowers therefore accuses White of treating a disputed interpretation as though it had already been established and then claiming victory based on the hypothetical consequences of that interpretation.
The Central Disagreement
At the deepest level, the disagreement is not simply over whether God draws people to Christ. Both men affirm divine drawing and divine teaching.
The disagreement is over what kind of drawing John 6 describes and what must be inferred from God’s teaching.
White’s argument can be represented roughly as:
Father draws → Father teaches → person hears and learns → person comes to Christ → person is raised
White understands this sequence as effectual and ultimately grounded in God’s sovereign action.
Flowers’ argument is closer to:
Father teaches/draws → people are genuinely confronted with God’s revelation → some respond and some resist → those who respond come to Christ
while also arguing that the particular drawing in John 6 has a specific redemptive-historical focus on Israel and should not simply be equated with the universal drawing described in John 12.
That distinction is what White’s universalism objection, according to Flowers, fails to address.
The central issue, therefore, is not simply whether Flowers believes in divine drawing or divine initiative. He does. His objection is to the additional inference that divine teaching or drawing must necessarily be effectual in the Calvinistic sense—that God’s act of drawing necessarily produces regeneration, faith, and perseverance in the individual being drawn.
In other words, Flowers is challenging the logical bridge between God’s sovereign initiative and an irresistible human response. His argument is that the former does not automatically establish the latter.
Source Note: The transcript excerpts discussed above are from my video, “James White’s Ignorance On Display – Subverting Truth,” which reproduces commentary and clips from Leighton Flowers’ Soteriology 101 video, “James White’s Repeated Errors Exposed | Leighton Flowers | Soteriology 101.”
A lot is being discussed about the theology of salvation and the Calvinist doctrine of limited atonement, which I disagree with.
So I want to answer one argument that I think the Calvinists falsely attribute to those of us who have a Provisionist view.
The Calvinist posits that if salvation requires faith, then faith must be a human contribution and therefore salvation is partly earned. In other words, acceptance is a work.
That argument assumes saving faith is like consideration in a contract, something of value exchanged for a promise. So if God promises salvation in response to faith, then faith must be the payment or consideration that completes the bargain.
But that’s the wrong view of faith. It confuses consideration or bargain for exchange with a conditional gift.
Imagine I offer you a gift and say, it’s yours. Come and receive it.
When you accept the gift, you aren’t purchasing it. You’re not providing any value. You’re not earning it.
I provided the gift. I paid the entire cost. I freely offered it. Your acceptance does not make me indebted to you. It simply means you receive what I have already provided.
Importantly, accepting is necessary to receive the gift because I’m not forcing it upon you against your will or knowledge.
A conditional gift is the biblical model of salvation. Christ paid the full price. Human beings contribute no merit, no righteousness, no works, no value, no payment toward salvation.
But God does condition our receiving that gift upon repentance and faith. And Scripture clearly distinguishes faith from works. 5 says, To the one who does not work but believes, his faith is counted as righteousness.
Faith is not a payment exchanged for salvation. It’s not a contribution that makes salvation possible. Faith is the empty hand that receives what God has graciously provided.
The gift is entirely God’s. The provision is entirely Christ’s. And accepting a gift does not mean you earned it.
So faith does not give man grounds for boasting. It gives God all the glory because salvation is freely offered, fully paid for, and received by faith alone through Christ alone in mercy and grace alone.
I will include Jenna’s video below/right
James White
Anyway, so these are some of the questions that I posted. So here’s Leighton Flowers pops in. And I don’t remember, I saw it yesterday. Jenna Ellis had tagged me and said, would you care to comment? And I couldn’t see what I was supposed to comment to because I had them blocked and nothing came up on my screen. I tried scrolling down, nothing happened. And so I’m sort of like, well, I’d be happy to do it. And while we’re at it, how about you respond to the question I asked you, which she will not do.
Leighton Flowers
I think she’s already responded to your answer and then later posted mine because she found out you blocked me. So again, facts.
James White
She will not do. There’s no reason to try to seek to engage her. She’s not an honest interlocutor. She’s just not. She’s turned out to be pretty wild. No two ways about it.
Leighton Flowers
Oh, the irony. Jenna is more kind and compassionate and loving towards people than you will ever hope to be, Dr. White. Sorry, again, to the man arguments, or in this case, to the woman arguments. Nothing to do with what Jenna wrote or what I wrote, but what does he have to do? He has to talk down to his opponent. He can’t be respectful. He can’t be kind. He can’t be nice to him. He’s got to talk down to him.
James White
So I found this today. And so here is the great Leighton Flowers. Now again, I was gonna play this, but I posted it three times yesterday on my X feed, so if you wanna see it, someone, thank you, whoever did it, pulled a clip from the debate with Leighton Flowers, that this is where James White won the debate with Leighton Flowers.
During the cross-examination, John 6:45, he always jumps John 6:45. He always ends up talking about it. 45 right there. And I’m pressing him and I say, okay, the one hearing, the one learning from the Father comes to me. I will raise him up on the last day. In context, that’s what the drawing is. You have to be drawn by the Father. If you’re drawn by the Father, you’re raised up by the Son.
So everybody jumps to John chapter 12, totally different context and that leads to universalism. They don’t care ’cause they don’t debate universalists. They only hate Calvinism, so they don’t care if they’re completely open to refutation from another perspective, they’re never gonna deal with those people anyway, so they don’t even think about it.
Leighton Flowers
None of that applies to my position or Dinesh’s position that he posted, or Jenna’s position that she posted, or John Lennox’s position, or none of what he just said refutes any one of those positions. Why? Because if you understand what we’re saying about John chapter 6, we’re saying that the Father is drawing those who’ve listened and learned from Moses, those who’ve listened and learned from the Father, that he’s drawing them to his Son at this point in time. He’s not drawing everyone to himself because John 12:32 wouldn’t exist if he was, because he says it’s not until the Son is lifted up that I will draw all men to myself.
So he’s not drawing all men to himself yet. And you can even say that’s all without distinction, not all without exception. So, okay, so he’s not drawing both Jews and Gentiles yet. Okay. So you have to acknowledge that in John 6, Jesus is not drawing all people to himself. What does that mean? The Father is drawing, Hebrews chapter 1. Read it. In days gone by, the Father drew, taught all people through the prophets. But in these current days, we are taught by the Son. There’s a shift that’s taking place. And so you’ve got the Father drawing whom? The people of Israel, the remnant of Israel, to believe in his Son so that he will raise them up in the last day.
We agree with that language, that grammatical thing. You can even make drawing irresistible if you want in that reading. And I don’t believe that drawing has to be interpreted or should be understood as irresistible because it’s simply referring to exactly what White admitted in his own book. The means of drawing is the teaching of God, that he’s the one who teaches. People can resist his teaching. They can refuse his teaching. They can accept it or refuse it. Common understanding of all teachers. Everybody knows that a teacher may be a great teacher, the best teacher that ever existed, but there may be some students who refuse to listen. And we blame the student for not learning, not the teacher or the intentions of the teacher as if the teacher doesn’t really want all the students to learn.
We blame the student for refusing to learn or not listening or closing their ears with their eyes. We don’t blame the teacher, okay? i.e., the teacher really doesn’t want it, secretly has a secret will, teaches all of them, but I only want some of them to really learn—all these kinds of nonsensical caveats and conclusions that Calvinists try to insert into the text. And so if you understand our position with regard to chapter 6 and chapter 12, you recognize that it’s not until he’s raised up that he draws all men to himself.
You see Mark 9:9, for example, they come down from the Mount of Transfiguration. He says, don’t tell anybody about this yet. Not until the Son of Man is lifted up. Then you can tell them because telling them would be a means of drawing. Preaching to them the gospel would be a means of drawing, and I don’t want you doing that yet. Why doesn’t he want them to do that? Same reason he said, I teach them in parables. Those on the inside, I tell them the truth. Those on the outside, I don’t. I teach them only in parables, lest they see, hear, understand, and turn, and I would heal them. He doesn’t want them to come yet. Why? Because then they’re not going to crucify him.
In order to accomplish the crucifixion, he’s using parabolic language. He’s giving them a spirit of stupor. He’s hardening them in their rebellion, speaking of the Jewish people, in order to get to Calvary. This is the interlocutor in Romans chapter 9 who’s crying out with him, why am I still to be blamed? Same interlocutor in chapter 3. Why are you to blame us? If our unrighteousness brings about your redemptive plan for good, your righteousness, why are we still to be blamed? Paul answers it in chapter 3 and he answers it more fully in chapters 9, 10, and 11.
And his conclusion’s not, well, some are reprobates from birth and cut off from birth. No, he says they’re cut off because of their unbelief, chapter 11, verse 23. He even says that he holds that hope that his ministry to the Gentiles will provoke them to envy so that they too will see the error of their ways and be grafted back in, leave their unbelief so as to be grafted back in. Does that sound like a reprobate who has no hope? Of course not, because that’s not who Paul is addressing.
In chapters 9, 10, and 11, he’s addressing the people of Israel who’ve grown calloused and hardened, who have now been cut off in their unbelief, judicially hardened by God, sent a spirit of stupor, being spoken to in parabolic language by their own Messiah, so as to ensure the crucifixion, so as to ensure the resurrection and the engrafting of the Gentile nations. When you understand that, none of what White’s saying right here, all of it just goes right past. This is why you say people are talking past each other. He’s not engaging the point of our contention. He’s jumping over to John chapter 12 and saying, well, see if those who are drawn are certainly raised up and Jesus draws all people without exception over in chapter 12, then that means everybody without exception is gonna be saved, and so you get universalism, so ha ha ha, we must be right. And he doesn’t even consider that the drawing is by the Father of those of the remnant of Israel being drawn to Jesus to be raised up for the purpose of bringing redemption to the world.
He doesn’t even consider that as an option, so he doesn’t even address it as an option, so therefore he never actually answers the argument of his opponents. He talks right past them. Now he thinks he’s got it figured out. He thinks he’s answering the typical Arminian response because some Arminians maybe go there. Maybe some Arminian responses do focus more on a different explanation of John chapter 6 or 12 or those kinds of things. But he’s certainly not engaging with mine or with what Jenna posted or with what Dinesh posted because we all take the same exact approach that Lennox took, that Michael Brown took, and that Steve Gregg took. Still White doesn’t either get it or he’s being deceptive. Ignorance or deception, you decide.
James White
So we had gotten to John 6:45 and I said, so if the phraseology is used there, and I suppose what I need to do here is, oh, I can’t do it because I have this maxed out and you can’t put two of those on top of each other, but I can do this just for a moment. I will get rid of it here in a second.
But right here in John 6:45, it is written in the prophets, and they shall all be taught by God. So, everyone hearing, and then mathon is going to be drawing its syntactical relationship from akousas. Everyone hearing and learning from the Father is coming to me.
So I said to Leighton, I said, if these are descriptive of divine power being exercised, if this is something that God effectuates, he causes people to hear, he causes people to learn, what would that do to your system? And his answer was, it would mean that the five points of Calvinism are true.
And so they put that question and answer together with my closing statement where I said, did you hear what he just said? Because that’s exactly what this is. This is the description of what being drawn in verse 44 is. That’s why everyone who’s drawn is raised up in the last day. That’s why every one of you that quoted John chapter 12 and said everybody’s drawn, we need to be universalists.
Leighton Flowers
See what I mean? Notice the tautology. He basically asked if I’m right, am I right? And I said, well, yes, if you’re right, you’re right. But I don’t believe you’re right. And you don’t believe me. Let’s go to the receipts. Okay.
James White
All who are taught by God, all who are, who hear from the father, all who learn from the father, that’s provided in scripture and being described by Jesus. What if that were that, what would that do to your theological understanding of this text?
Leighton Flowers
If that were true, then your presupposition TULIP would be true. And I don’t think your presupposition is true. I believe they actually have the responsibility, the ability to respond to the teaching of God.
James White
They can deny it or they can accept it.
Leighton Flowers
Everybody heard that, right? So he claims that is ultimately what ensured that he won the debate. Okay. So he basically says that if this teaching is effectual, then am I right? And obviously if he believes the teaching is effectual, meaning it has an effectual result in the belief of the elect, which is what he’s asking, then am I right? And I’m basically saying, yeah, obviously that’s the debate. That’s the very point up for debate, whether that’s what this is teaching or not.
And he claims that that’s why he won the debate, despite the fact that most people who watched it, according to 1,400 votes, said that I won the debate. No, he still says, oh, I won the debate because Leighton admitted that if I’m right, I’m right. Again, this is the level of argumentation, folks, of the best scholar, at least that’s confronting provisionism. This is the highest level of argumentation you’re getting from them so far.
This is why I thank God for James White. Every time he does these kinds of broadcasts, I think any person with an iota of logical ability can see through some of these lower-level arguments. And they’re just, at least if they’re not already swallowed hook, line and sinker Kool-Aid drinkers, I think they can see this. And so a lot of the people who come to him because of a lot of the other arguments that he’s arguing with the King James Version only or the Trinity or other things he’s doing, they’ll get introduced to this Calvinism stuff and they’ll begin to hear him and they’ll be going to go, that doesn’t make any sense.
I know this is happening because I have people come all the time, like the guy commenting earlier, that come to me through James White because they like what he’s doing on all these other subjects. But when he comes to Calvinism, he just goes off the rails. And he starts making really bad logical conclusions and really poor argumentation and starts attacking his opponents in unfair ways and making ad hominem remarks about them and all these kinds of other things that we’ve seen from White.
And they begin to go, I just get so turned off by the way he’s approaching provisionists and Arminians that I begin to look at provisionism and Arminianism and see whether it’s really right or not. And then I begin to go, oh yeah, that doesn’t make any sense. And so that’s, again, another reason I really love the fact that James White confronts us. He does a lot to push people towards provisionism. So thank you, James White, for that.
James White
Which means you are not handling scripture accurately and correctly. And the thing that’s bothering me the most about X right now is you don’t seem to care. You don’t seem to care. Hey, if it allows me to deny Calvinism, I don’t care what the universalists say. That is.
Leighton Flowers
Again, nothing about universalism has anything to do with John chapter 12 or how we would understand it.
Nathan’s right, Jesus’ reason for speaking in parables refutes Calvinism because if they needed to be regenerated, then Jesus could have spoken plainly and just not regenerated them. Exactly. It’s one of the things that led me out of Calvinism was that very point. Why would he need to use parables to keep them from belief if they can’t believe without being regenerated first?
Eric Hankins, “Beyond Calvinism and Arminianism: Toward a Baptist Soteriology,”
Journal for Baptist Theology and Ministry 8, no. 1 (Spring 2011): 87–100.
Beyond Calvinism And Arminianism Toward A Baptist Soteriology (PDF)
Eric Hankins, Ph.D.
Dr. Hankins is the Pastor of First Baptist Church in Oxford, Mississippi.
The Claim
After four hundred years, Calvinism and Arminianism remain at an impasse. The strengths and weaknesses of both systems are well-documented, and their proponents vociferously aver each system’s mutual exclusivity. This paper is based on the observation that these two theological programs have had sufficient time to demonstrate their superiority over the other and have failed to do so. The time has come, therefore, to look beyond them for a paradigm that gives a better account of the biblical and theological data. Indeed, the stalemate itself is related not so much to the unique features of each system but to a set of erroneous presuppositions upon which both are constructed. As the fault lines in these foundational concepts are exposed, it will become clear that the Baptist vision for soteriology, which has always resisted absolute fidelity to either system, has been the correct instinct all along. Baptist theology must be willing to articulate this vision in a compelling and comprehensive manner.
The following four presuppositions shared by Calvinism and Arminianism demonstrate the degree to which a new approach to soteriology is needed. One presupposition is primarily biblical, one is primarily philosophical, one is primarily theological, and one is primarily anthropological, although each is intertwined with the others. Having established the need for a new approach to soteriology and the Baptist vision for such an approach, the paper will conclude with a brief description of a way forward.
The Biblical Presupposition:
Individual Election
The idea that God, in eternity past, elected certain individuals to salvation is a fundamental tenet of Calvinism and Arminianism. The interpretation of this biblical concept needs to be revised. Quite simply, when the Bible speaks of election in the context of God’s saving action, it is always referring to corporate election, God’s decision to have a people for Himself. When the election of individuals is raised in Scripture, it is always election to a purpose or calling within Gods plans for His people as a whole. In the OT, the writers understood election to be God’s choice of Israel, yet they also clearly taught that the benefits of corporate election could only be experienced by the individual Israelite (or the particular generation of Israelites) who responded faithfully to the covenant that had been offered to the whole nation.[1] This trajectory within the OT is unassailable. It is reinforced in the intertestamental literature and is the basis for the way election is treated in the NT.[2] The Bible, therefore, does not speak of God’s choice of certain individuals and not others for salvation.[3] When the Bible does speak of the salvation of individuals, its central concept is “faith,” never “election.”
Take away individual election, and the key components of Calvinism and Arminianism disappear.[4] God does not elect individuals to salvation on the basis of His hidden councils, nor does He elect them on the basis of His foreknowledge of their future faith. Simply put, God does not “elect” individuals to salvation. He has elected an eschatological people whom He has determined to have for Himself. This group will be populated by individuals who have responded in faith to the gracious, free offer of the gospel. The group, “the Elect,” is comprised of individuals who are “saved by faith,” not “saved by election.” This being the case, there is no longer any need for the theological maneuvering required to explain how God elects individuals without respect to their response (which evacuates the biblical concept of “faith” of all its meaning) or how He elects individuals based on foreseen faith (which evacuates the biblical concept of “election” of all its meaning).
Asserting that “individual election” should be abandoned is striking, to say the least. It is the foundation on which evangelical soteriology is often constructed.[5] It is painful to consider the enormous investment of time and energy that has been spent trying to reconcile how God chooses individuals and, at the same time, how individuals choose God, only to discover that the whole endeavor has been based on a misreading of Scripture. Nevertheless, most Baptists have never felt fully comfortable with either Calvinist or Arminian understandings of election because neither comport well with the whole counsel of God. The reason is clear. The Scriptures lead to the conclusion that Augustine, Calvin, and Arminius were simply wrong in their construction of individual election. Baptists have never been theologically or confessionally committed to these august theologians, and the time has come to move beyond them.
The Philosophical Presupposition:
The “Problem” of Determinism and Free-Will
Like Calvinism and Arminianism, the 2,500-year-old debate concerning the “problem” of determinism and free-will has also reached an impasse. This is because absolute causal determinism is untenable.[6] Put simply, the “problem” is not a problem because the paradigm for causation in the Western philosophical tradition is wrong. The whole of reality cannot be explained in terms of uni-directional causation from a single first-principle. The universe does not work that way. Causation is complex, hierarchical, and interdependent. God sits sovereignly and non-contingently atop a hierarchy that owes its existence to the functioning of the levels below it, levels that include the fully operational free-will of humans.[7] Opposing God’s sovereign guidance of the universe and the operation of free-will within that universe is a false dichotomy based on reductionistic metaphysical assumptions. God has made a free and sovereign decision to have a universe in which human free-will plays a decisive role. Human agency is one force among many that God has created to accomplish His cosmic purposes.
Free-will plays a unique role within God’s purposes for the universe because it is the unique power of human beings freely to enter into and maintain covenant relationships, especially a covenant relationship with God. This makes human willing fundamentally moral. Under certain circumstances, God, in His freedom, contravenes free-will, just as He is free to contravene any other force in nature, but this is not His normal modus operandi. Because God is God, He knows all of the free acts of humans from eternity, but this knowledge does not cause these acts nor does it make Him responsible for them. Moreover, the existence of these acts in no way impinges upon either His freedom or His ability to bring about His ultimate purposes. The ability of humans “to do otherwise” does not call God’s sovereignty into question; it actually establishes and ratifies His sovereignty over the particular universe that was His good pleasure to create. Opposing free-will and sovereignty is, from a philosophical perspective, nonsensical.[8]
Calvinism’s desire to protect God’s divine status from the infringement of human free-will by denying it completely or reducing it to some form of “soft-determinism”[9] is unnecessary. God’s corporate elective purposes are accomplished by individual free acts of faith. Arminianism’s need to inject ideas such as God’s election of individuals based on their future free acts is also a move designed to maintain both a strong view of God’s sovereignty and the free choice of individuals. Unfortunately, this move is made at the expense of any regular understanding of biblical election, which is unilateral. God does not choose Israel because He knows she will choose Him in return. He chooses her even though He knows that her history will be one of rebellion and failure. Moreover, Arminianism’s desire to protect the inviolability of free-will to the degree that God cannot keep His promise to seal a believer’s free response fails to take seriously the totality of the biblical concept of faith.
Many Baptists have tended to opt for what they think is a “compatibilist” understanding of determinism and free-will in salvation: God chooses individuals unconditionally, and individuals choose God by faith.[10] Unfortunately, compatibilism demands a deterministic view of both God and free-will with which those same Baptists would be very uncomfortable. What these Baptists really want to say is that a “determinist” view of God is compatible with a “libertarian” view of free-will, but this is philosophically impermissible. Another typical strategy of Baptists, at this point, is to appeal to “mystery” or “paradox:” We don’t know how God chooses individuals, and, at the same time, individuals choose God. But, like other complex doctrines such as the Trinity or the hypostatic union, it is still true. To say, however, that God chooses individuals unconditionally and that He does not choose individuals unconditionally is not to affirm a mystery; it is to assert a logical contradiction. Baptists need to abandon the language of compatibilism and “mystery,” which do not adequately reflect what they believe about God and salvation, and embrace the concept that a robust (soft-) libertarian free-will is the actualization of God’s sovereign direction of His universe.
The Theological Presupposition:
Federal Theology
Both Arminians and Calvinists assume a “Covenant of Works” between Adam and God in the Garden of Eden, even though there is no biblical basis for such.[11]The Covenant of Works, they assert, was a deal God made with Adam whereby Adam would be rewarded with eternal life if he could remain morally perfect through a probationary period. Failure would bring about guilt and “spiritual death,” which includes the loss of his capacity for a good will toward God. Adam’s success or failure, in turn, would be credited to his posterity. This “Federal Theology” imputes Adam’s guilt and total depravity to every human.[12] In Calvinism, actual guilt and total depravity are the plight of every person. Free-will with respect to salvation is, by definition, impossible, and with it, the possibility of a free response to God’s offer of covenant through the gospel. The only hope for salvation for any individual is the elective activity of God. In Calvinist soteriology, election is privileged above faith because regeneration must be prior to conversion. In Arminianism, the effects of Federal Theology and the Covenant of Works must be countermanded by further speculative adjustments like “prevenient grace” and election based on “foreseen faith,” a faith which is only possible because prevenient grace overcomes the depravity and guilt of the whole human race due to Adam’s failure. All this strays far beyond the biblical data. Such speculation does not emerge from clear inferences from the Bible, but is actually a priori argumentation designed to buttress Augustine, not Paul.
God’s gracious action in Christ is not “Plan B,” a “Covenant of Grace,” executed in response to Adam’s failure at “Plan A,” the “Covenant of Works.” The pre-existent Son has always been the center-point of creation and covenant. Adam was not created and placed in the Garden for the purpose of demonstrating moral perfection through his own efforts.[13]
This original “works righteousness” was read into the Garden by Pelagius and assumed by Augustine. Adam was not being called to moral perfection; he was being called into world-changing covenant relationship. The command not to eat of the tree was simply a negative construal of God’s offer for Adam to know Him and be satisfied in Him and His plan alone. It was a specific instantiation of the covenant offered to Adam and Eve in Gen. 1:26-28: In a blessed relationship with God, they were to be fruitful, multiply, fill the earth, subdue it, and rule over it.[14]In the Garden, Adam was being asked to do what Noah, Abraham, Moses, Israel, David, and, ultimately, everyone would be asked to do: trust and accept the gracious covenant offer of God in Christ for the purpose of bringing the created order to its intended conclusion. Adam and Eve were to respond to God in faith. The sensual temptation of the fruit itself came after the temptation to question God’s character and His covenant plan. It was in Adam’s rejection of God’s covenant offer that he failed to be moral. In Christ, God re-offers the covenant through successive renewals, culminating in His final offer of the gospel revealed in the life, death, and resurrection of the Incarnate Son. Adam was asked to believe God and bless the whole world, as were Noah, Abraham, Israel, David, and ultimately Christ, who succeeded where all others failed. His victory is extended to all those who put their faith in Him, just like Abraham, the father of the faithful did.[15] Covenant in Christ by faith is not “Plan B;” it is the point of the Bible.
Once again, speculation such as a Covenant of Works, Federal Theology, prevenient grace, etc. are little more than theological “fudge factors” designed to make the Augustinian synthesis work. They do not emerge from the biblical text but are a priori arguments pressed into the service of a fifth century Catholic bishop, not the authors of the Scriptures, and Baptists have never been comfortable with them. These adjustments mitigate the centrality, power, and immediacy of the biblical concept of “covenant” which has, at its heart, God’s desire for a relationship with His people through a real response of faith to the gospel of Jesus Christ. This is the nexus of Baptist soteriology.
The Anthropological Presupposition:
Total Depravity
The Scriptures clearly affirm that all people are sinners. Because of sin, humans are in a disastrous state, unable to alter the trajectory of their rebellion against God, unable to clear their debt of sin against Him, unable to work their way back to Him through their best efforts. This situation is one of their own creating and for which they are ultimately responsible.[16]
About these realities, there is little debate in evangelical theology. What is at issue is what being a sinner means when it comes to responding to God’s offer of covenant relationship through the power of the gospel.
Both Calvinism and Arminianism affirm that the Fall resulted in “total depravity,” the complete incapacitation of humanity’s free response to God’s gracious offer of covenant relationship.[17]In Calvinism, the only remedies for this state-of-affairs are the “doctrines of grace” in which the free response of individuals is not decisive. For Arminianism, total depravity, which is purely speculative, is corrected by prevenient grace, which is even more speculative, and makes total depravity ultimately meaningless because God never allows it to have any effect on any person.
Nothing in Scripture indicates that humans have been rendered “totally depraved” through Adam’s sin. Genesis 3 gives an extensive account of the consequences of Adam’s sin, but nowhere is there the idea that Adam or his progeny lost the ability to respond to God in faith, a condition which then required some sort of restoration by regeneration or prevenient grace. In fact, just the opposite appears to be the case. The story of God’s relationship with humankind is fraught with frustration, sadness, and wrath on God’s part, not because humans are incapable of a faith response, but because they are capable of it, yet reject God’s offer of covenant relationship anyway. To be sure, they are not capable of responding in faith without God’s special revelation of Himself through Christ and His Spirit’s drawing. Any morally responsible person, however, who encounters the gospel in the power of the Spirit (even though he has a will so damaged by sin that he is incapable of having a relationship with God without the gospel) is able to respond to that “well-meant offer.”
Therefore, the time has come once again for Baptists to reject another dichotomy mediated by the Calvinist/Arminian debate: monergism and synergism. Monergism insists that salvation is all of God. Monergists conclude that faith emerging from a decision within the will of the believer is a “work” that makes salvation meritorious, but this idea demands a theologically objectionable determinism. As a technical theological concept, synergism[18] still operates off of a framework that views sovereignty and free-will as problematic, often forcing too fine a distinction between “what God does” and “what man does.” Synergism tends to put “faith” in the category of performance, rather than an attitude of surrender. This has led some Arminian theology into over-speculation concerning the nature of the act of faith, psychologizing and sensationalizing the “moment of decision,” so that one’s experience becomes the basis of his assurance. Synergism also tends to demand further acts in order to receive further blessing and opens the door to the possibility that, if a person fails to act faithfully subsequent to the experience of salvation, God will cease to save.
Baptists must get off of this grid.[19]We have preferred terms like “trust,” “surrender,” and “relationship” to “monergism” or “synergism” when we reflect on God’s offer and our response. These terms secure the affirmation both that individuals can do nothing to save themselves, yet their salvation cannot occur against their wills or without a response of faith that belongs to them alone.
The Baptist Vision
So, what would a biblically-sound, Christ-centered, grace-filled soteriology look like without appeals to individual election, determinism, Federal Theology, or total depravity? What would it look like if it were free from the presuppositions of Calvinism and Arminianism? It would look exactly like what most Baptists have believed instinctively all along. Baptists have consistently resisted the impulse to embrace completely either Calvinism or Arminianism. We simply posit that we are “neither.”[20]The basis for this resistance to the two systems is our aversion to theological speculation beyond the clear sense of Scripture and our willingness to go our own way when Scripture and conscience demand. The way forward is basically backward, a massive simplification, a walking out of the convoluted labyrinth that evangelical soteriology has become in the debate between Calvinism and Arminianism. It is a move not dissimilar to the basic impulse of Luther at the birth of the Reformation, which was to reject the Medieval scholasticism that had turned the gloriously simple gospel of grace into its absolute antithesis. For Luther, the solution was to start over with the Scriptures (and Augustine), no matter what the implications. Baptists need to apply the Reformation principles of sola scriptura and semper reformanda to Luther himself. Augustine’s soteriology and the bulwark constructed subsequently to defend it must be removed.
Baptists believe in the clarity and simplicity of the Bible. We search in vain for decrees, a Covenants of Works, the distinction between a “general call” and an “effectual call,” hidden wills, and prevenient grace. We react with consternation to the ideas that God regenerates before He converts, that He hates sinners, that reprobation without respect to a response of faith brings Him the greatest glory, or that the truly converted can lose their salvation. Baptists have felt free to agree with certain emphases within Calvinism and Arminianism, while rejecting those that offend our commitments to the possibility of salvation for all and to the eternal security of that salvation based exclusively on faith in the covenant promises of God. The free offer of an eternal, life-changing covenant with the Father through the Son by the Spirit to all sinners by the free exercise of personal faith alone has been the simple, non-speculative but inviolable core of Baptist soteriological belief and practice. Baptist soteriology (specifically including the doctrines of the sovereign, elective purposes of God, the sinfulness of all humans, the substitutionary atonement of Christ, salvation by grace alone through faith alone, and the security of the believer) is not in jeopardy and does not need to be reinforced by Calvinism or Arminianism. It can be successfully taught, maintained, and defended without resorting to either system.
It has been typical of Baptists to believe that anyone who reaches the point of moral responsibility has the capacity to respond to the gospel. While all persons are radically sinful and totally unable to save themselves, their ability to “choose otherwise” defines human existence, including the ability to respond to the gospel in faith or reject it in rebellion. God initiates the process; He imbues it with His Spirit’s enabling. When people respond in faith, God acts according to His promises to seal that relationship for eternity, welding the will of the believer to His own, setting the believer free by His sovereign embrace. Our assurance of salvation comes not from a “sense” that we are elect or from our persistence in holy living. Assurance comes from the simple, surrendered faith that God keeps every one of His promises in Christ Jesus.
Baptists’ historical insistence on believer’s baptism is a solid indicator of our soteriological instinct. Historically, neither Calvinism nor Arminianism had a correct word for infant baptism because both were burdened with the justification for total depravity, original sin, and individual election. For many Arminians (like those in the Wesleyan tradition), infant baptism functions with reference to original sin and prevenient grace and plays a role in the faith that God “foresees.”[21]For many Calvinists, infant baptism has become an extremely odd vehicle by which they deal with the fate of infants, an issue that is illustrative of the fundamental inadequacy of the system. If Calvinism is true, then its own logic demands that at least some infants who die before reaching the point of moral responsibility spend eternity in hell.[22] By and large, Calvinists do not want to say this and will go to great lengths to avoid doing so.[23] Covenant Theology and infant baptism have been the preferred method for assuring (at least Christian) parents that they can believe in original guilt and total depravity and still know that their children who die in infancy will be with them in heaven. While Baptist Calvinists and Arminians do not allow for infant baptism, the fact that their systems allow for and even advocate it is telling.
Prevenient grace and Covenant Theology have never played a role in Baptist theology. This frees us to deal biblically with the issue of infant baptism: it is simply a popular vestige of Roman Catholic sacramentalism that the Magisterial Reformers did not have either the courage or theological acuity to address. Privileging election necessarily diminishes the significance of the individual response of faith for salvation, thus creating room for infant baptism and its theological justification. But with faith as the proper center of Baptist soteriology, infant baptism has never made any sense. Our distinctive understanding of the ordinance of baptism celebrates the centrality of the individual’s actual response of faith to the free offer of the gospel.
Finally, Baptists’ historic passion for evangelism and missions is underdetermined by Calvinism and Arminianism. For Calvinism, if the decision about who is saved and who is not has already been made by God, then the actual sharing of the gospel with the lost does not matter. The vast majority of Calvinists strenuously object to this charge, employing a variety of tactics to obviate what is, unfortunately, the only logical conclusion of their system. Saying that God elects the “means” of salvation as well as the individuals who are saved demands a determinism that is theologically unacceptable and philosophically unsustainable. Insisting that evangelism is still necessary because it “glorifies God” and demonstrates obedience to the Scriptures is simply a variation of that same determinism. The historical struggles of Calvinism with doctrinal and attitudinal opposition to missions and the “promiscuous preaching of the gospel” is evidence of the weakness of their system. Insisting on a “well-meant offer” while at the same time insisting that not all are able to respond is not the affirmation of a “mystery;” it is stubborn fidelity to a logical contradiction. For Arminianism, if election is based on foreseen faith, then it must be assumed that every person will receive enough of the gospel to trust or reject Christ. We know that billions still have not heard the gospel. This privileges the effort of the faith-capacity of people over the power of the gospel alone to save. If all people have the ability to figure out some form of faith in Christ, why worry overmuch about evangelism? It is this sort of weakness that lends itself to the frequent liberal trend in Arminianism.
Baptist anthropology affirms that, because of personal sinfulness, no one is capable of coming to faith in Christ without the proclamation of the gospel in the power of the Spirit. While there are certainly unique instances of individuals receiving the gospel through dreams and non-human proclamation, this is not God’s normal manner of working and those instances of salvation still require both a proclamation of Jesus as Lord and a response of faith. Baptists believe that the proclamation of the gospel is necessary for a faith response to Christ. Those who do not hear will not be saved. Everyone who does hear has the opportunity to respond to Christ in faith or persist in unbelief. This is the only proper biblical motivation for the urgent proclamation of the gospel. Baptists have excelled in evangelism and missions because we believe it really matters.
It is safe to say that Federal Theology, Eternal Decrees, Covenants of Works, Grace, and Redemption, and prevenient grace have played essentially no major role in the expansion of the Baptist witness, especially among Southern Baptists, from the late nineteenth through the late twentieth centuries. This is not because ordinary Baptists are unintelligent or simplistic in their beliefs; it is because ordinary Baptists have played a significant role in the direction of denominational identity, and they have been serious about what the Bible plainly does and does not say. In the older Baptist confessions and in the writings of older Baptist heroes like Spurgeon, Fuller, and Carey, echoes of the doctrinal speculation above can be heard, but they sit uncomfortably with the strong affirmations of the opportunity of everyone to respond in faith to the preaching of the gospel and the inability of any believer to fall away. In the Baptist Faith and Message, such problematic speculation disappears completely.[24] Baptists have known that these things were unnecessary for the articulation of God’s unstoppable plan to redeem the whole world through the bold proclamation of salvation in Christ alone by faith alone. From the beginning, the work of Christ in creation and redemption for the purpose of covenant relationship with humankind has always been the center of the biblical narrative. There is no need for an alternate metanarrative of secret decrees and hidden covenants to sort out the history of redemption. The plot of God’s purpose for humankind can be found right on the surface of the text from Genesis 1 to Revelation 22, all summed up succinctly in John 3:16.[25]
Without committing to either Calvinism or Arminianism, Baptists have evangelized millions, planted thousands of churches, and reached literally around the globe the with life-changing, world-changing message of salvation by grace through faith. When either system has come to the forefront in debate or dispute, the outcome has rarely been positive for kingdom work through us. Baptists have been well-served by a simpler, less-speculative, less metaphysical approach to soteriology. As we move into a new millennium, a more constructive, positive statement of our soteriology based on this heritage of simplicity and faith-focus will sharpen us as to what is essential to the message and motivation of the gospel for all who stand in desperate need of it.
A Baptist Soteriology
So, what would a soteriology based on the Baptist vision look like? The four presuppositions discussed above, indeed, provide a sound framework upon which the Baptist vision could be set. Around the core biblical principle of faith, the philosophical principle of God’s purpose for human free-will, the theological principle of “covenant in Christ alone,” and the anthropological principle of the sinfulness and salvability of every person could be arranged. It is interesting that, in actual practice, these key concepts are identical with the emphases in the most widely used personal evangelism tools in Baptist life. F.A.I.T.H. Evangelism, Continuing Witness Training, Evangelism Explosion, The Four Spiritual Laws, and Share Jesus without Fear all highlight (1) faith in Christ, unpacking such faith as (2) the absolute necessity of a personal, individual response of repentance and trust, (3) an entry into God’s holy and loving, eternal purposes in the person and work of Christ alone, and (4) available for anyone who will admit his radical sinfulness and inability to save himself.[26]In none of these gospel presentations is there even a hint of the issues of election, determinism, Federal Theology, or total depravity. In such gospel witness, the principle of lex orandi, lex credendi is a helpful reminder that our actual evangelistic practices are crucial indicators of what we truly believe about soteriology.
The Biblical Presupposition:
Individual Faith
The central biblical presupposition for a Baptist soteriology is, therefore, “faith” (Eph. 2.89). “Election” is a term that belongs properly in the Doctrine of God. Faith captures the fundamentally relational nature of NT soteriology. “Justification by faith,” which lies at the center of Protestant soteriological identity, speaks of the initiating and sustaining activity of God in bringing an individual into right relationship with Himself and the necessity of the individual’s response for God’s justifying work to be actualized in his life. While the totality of justification has numerous aspects (past, present, future, spiritual, physical, individual, moral, social, ecclesiological, cosmic, etc.), it does not happen without personal faith. Faith has a variety of nuances as well, but, ultimately, it is an act of the will that belongs to the believer. It is not a “gift” God gives to some and not others. When we call people to salvation, we emphasize the biblical concept of faith, not election.
The Philosophical Presupposition:
The Freedom of God and the Free-Will of People
The manner in which biblical faith functions in creation is this: God sovereignly and freely made a universe in which the free-will of humans plays a decisive role in His ultimate purposes for that universe (Rom. 10:9-10). Without free-will, there is no mechanism for the defeat of sin and evil, no mechanism for covenant relationship, no mechanism for a world-changing, world-completing partnership between God and His people. For Baptists, faith has never been something that occurs without our willing. We deny that people’s eternal destinies have been fixed without respect to a free-response of repentance and faith. We preach that the decision of each individual is both possible and necessary for salvation.
The Theological Presupposition:
Covenant in Christ
In a Baptist soteriology, Christ is the central object of belief. He is believed as the mediator of covenant relationship, the full expression of the kingdom of God, eternal life, God’s ultimate purpose for everyone and for the cosmos (John 3:16). We have no interest in a series of extra-biblical covenants created to bolster a soteriology that does not take seriously the necessity of personal faith as an expression of free-will. In our preaching, we do not burden people with the calculus of covenants of works, grace, and redemption. We do not invite people to believe in Calvinism or Arminianism. We offer Christ alone, the only hope of Adam, Noah, Abraham, the Patriarchs, Moses, David, Israel, and the whole of humankind. His perfect life, substitutionary death, and victorious resurrection comprise the object of confession and belief that is sufficient to save (John 14:6, Rom. 10.9-10).
The Anthropological Presupposition:
The Sinfulness and Salvability of Everyone
Finally, the anthropological presupposition is that no one can save himself, but anyone can be saved (Rom. 3:23). No person ever takes the first step toward God. Humankind’s history is broken; its destiny is death; it’s context darkness; its reality is rebellion. This sinfulness has put us out of fellowship with God and under the verdict of eternal separation (Rom. 6.23). Through the person and work of Christ, which is proclaimed through the gospel, God reaches out His hand of “first love,” providing a ground of salvation to which any one can respond in faith. If people do not hear and respond to this gospel, they will not be saved. So, we preach the gospel broadly, regularly, and passionately. We offer an invitation every time we preach because we believe every unbeliever, no matter how sinful and broken, can respond, and no matter how moral and self-righteous, must respond (Rev. 3:20).
These four pillars are the super-structure of the soteriology that has driven Baptist preaching, evangelism, and missions. It is the basis for life in Christ and the way of discipleship. Into this matrix, the totality of biblical soteriological language can be fed, but no other single concept can be allowed to dominate doctrinal development to such a degree that one or more of these emphases are abandoned or effectively neutralized. From these fixed-points of Baptist soteriology, such issues as the effects of the Fall, the order of salvation in its various dimensions, and other important implications can be discussed in full. In this construction, election is an important but tangential and transitional concept, connecting the borders of soteriology, ecclesiology, eschatology, and theology proper. Faith, however, must stand at the center of Baptist soteriology, so that we might proclaim to all with firm conviction: “Believe on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved” (Acts 16:31).
FOOTNOTES
[1]See, for instance, Deut. 29:14-21. Israel is reaffirming the covenant promised to the patriarchs and to future generations. However, if there is an individual man or woman who boasts, “I have peace with God though I walk in the stubbornness of my heart,” the Lord will “single him out” from the people for destruction (vv. 18-21, NASB). Although the covenant is for the whole community, the individual must respond in faith in order to benefit from those corporate covenant promises.
[2]Critics of the corporate view of election will quickly raise Rom. 8:29-30 and 9-11 (among others) in defense of their position, but the pre-temporal election of individuals is not Paul’s purpose there. Rom. 8:29-30 is setting up Paul’s point in chapters 9-11 about two groups: Jews and Gentiles. The end of Romans 8 crescendos with the greatness of salvation in Christ. Verses 29-30 articulate God’s actions toward His people from beginning to end in order to bring about His ultimate “purpose” (28): God knew He was going to have a people; He determined to bring them into existence in Christ; He actualized that people in history through His call; He justified them by faith; He has determined to bring them into resurrection glory. In light of this incredible plan to have this kind of people for Himself, Paul is heartbroken at the beginning of Romans 9 that his Jewish brothers have responded to the gospel with unbelief. The Jews appear to be “out,” and the Gentiles appear to be “in.” But God works in unexpected ways. Jews are “out” now so that the Gentiles can come “in.” But the Gentiles coming “in” will ultimately cause the Jews to come “in” at the proper time. That is why Paul will continue to preach the gospel to Jews as a part of his mission to the whole world, looking forward to the response of a remnant by faith. One thing is certain: Romans 9-11 is not teaching the election of some individuals and the reprobation of others without respect to their genuine response of faith. Ephesians 1:4, 5, and 11 function in Ephesians 2 the same way that Rom. 8:29-30 functions in Romans 9-11.
[3]See William W. Klein, The New Chosen People: A Corporate View of Election (Eugene, OR: Wipf and Stock, 2001), 257–63 for an extended exegetical analysis of all the relevant biblical data concerning the concept of “corporate election.” Klein argues that there is not a single verse or overarching tendency in the Scriptures in support of the idea that God chooses certain individuals for salvation.
[4]Indeed, if “individual election” is what the writers of the NT meant, then Calvinism and Arminianism really are the only options, and Baptists should pick one and move on to other matters. It is significant that we have been unwilling to do so.
[5]For example, if individual election to salvation were removed from Millard Erickson’s massive systematic theology, there would be essentially nothing left in his chapters on “God’s Plan” and those in the whole section on “Salvation.” See Millard J. Erickson, Christian Theology, 2d ed. (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1998).
[6] Kenneth Keathley, Salvation and Sovereignty: A Molinist Approach (Nashville: B&H Academic, 2010), 93–99.
[7]Nancey Murphy, “Introduction and Overview,” in Downward Causation and the Neurobiology of Free Will, ed. Nancey Murphy, George F. R. Ellis, and Timothy O’Connor (Berlin: Springer-Verlag, 2009), 2–3.
I change up footnote 8 a bit. I add the fuller quote from Lewis as well as a bit of a summary of it
[8] C. S. Lewis, Yours, Jack: Spiritual Directions from C. S. Lewis, ed. Paul Ford (New York: HarperCollins, 2008), 186. Lewis provides a helpful perspective on the traditional debate between divine sovereignty and human freedom. He writes:
“All that Calvinist question—Free-Will and Predestination, is to my mind undiscussable, insoluble. Of course (say us) if a man repents God will accept him. Ah yes, (say they) but the fact of his repenting shows that God has already moved him to do so. This at any rate leaves us with the fact that in any concrete case the question never arrives as a practical one. But I suspect it is really a meaningless question. The difference between Freedom and Necessity is fairly clear on the bodily level: we know the difference between making our teeth chatter on purpose and just finding them chattering with cold. It begins to be less clear when we talk of human love (leaving out the erotic kind). ‘Do I like him because I choose or because I must?’—there are cases where this has an answer, but others where it seems to me to mean nothing. When we carry it up to relations between God and Man, has the distinction perhaps become nonsensical? After all, when we are most free, it is only with a freedom God has given us: and when our will is most influenced by Grace, it is still our will. And if what our will does is not ‘voluntary,’ and if ‘voluntary’ does not mean ‘free,’ what are we talking about? I’d leave it all alone. Blessings.”
RPT SUMMARY: Lewis is not attempting here to construct a systematic doctrine of free will or to resolve the Calvinist-Arminian controversy. Rather, his point is that the categories of “freedom” and “necessity,” while relatively clear when applied to physical actions, become increasingly difficult to apply to human willing and ultimately to the relationship between God and humanity. Divine influence upon the human will does not necessarily make the resulting action something other than the person’s own voluntary action; indeed, Lewis insists that even when the will is most influenced by grace, “it is still our will.” Thus, the attempt to force divine grace and human freedom into a simple opposition between “necessity” and “freedom” may itself rest upon a category mistake.
This observation is consistent with Lewis’s broader treatment of divine goodness and human wickedness in The Problem of Pain. In chapter 3, “Divine Goodness,” Lewis argues that God’s goodness cannot be defined as merely the human notion of kindness or as something wholly unrelated to the moral categories available to human beings. God’s goodness is greater and more complete than ours, but it is not its opposite. He therefore maintains that God’s purposes may involve painful correction and transformation without ceasing to be expressions of divine love. In chapter 4, “Human Wickedness,” Lewis grounds the need for such divine correction in humanity’s misuse of free will: human beings have “used [their] free will to become very bad,” and the Christian message begins with the recognition that humanity requires moral and spiritual healing.
This makes Lewis’s language in Yours, Jack especially significant. Lewis himself says he “suspect[s]” that the question is “meaningless” and asks whether the distinction between freedom and necessity has “perhaps become nonsensical.” The qualified language is important. He is not making an unqualified declaration that the Calvinist-Arminian debate is meaningless, nor is he presenting a systematic argument for libertarian free will. Rather, he is questioning whether the philosophical categories being used are adequate to describe the relationship between God’s grace and a genuinely willing human response. His larger theology in The Problem of Pain nevertheless treats human beings as morally responsible agents who have genuinely misused their freedom and therefore genuinely require transformation. Divine influence and human willing are consequently not presented as simple opposites. Lewis provides philosophical support for distinguishing God’s gracious influence from coercion, without necessarily settling the larger question of exactly how divine sovereignty and human freedom relate
[9]“Soft-determinism” is the view that humans are free to do what they desire most, but they are not free to choose what they desire. Since, “the good” is off the table as an object of desire (because of the Fall), “evil” is the only option left, and therefore, humans always “choose” to do evil because they cannot do otherwise. “Soft-libertarianism” (mentioned below) is the view that human freedom, while limited in many aspects by environment and prior choices, is still characterized by the ability, often at crucial moments, to choose between two live options for which the agent is responsible. For a more full discussion, see Keathley, Salvation and Sovereignty, 63–79.
[10]This often expressed in the old saw that “Whosoever will may come” is written over the entry into heaven, but, once inside, the verse over the door reads, “you did not choose Me, but I have chosen you.”
[11]William J. Dumbrell, Covenant and Creation: A Theology of Old Testament Covenants (Eugene, OR: Wipf and Stock, 2009), 44–6, Reprint.
[12]The principle text for Federal Theology is Rom. 5.12-21, but the evidence within this text and its place within the argument of Romans speaks against such an interpretation. The strict parallelism between Adam and “all” demands a strict parallelism between Christ and “all,” necessitating universalism, which is not possible theologically and not the point exegetically. Paul’s focus in the passage is clearly on physical death and eternal life, not the imputation of Adam’s guilt to all people (the same is true for Eph. 2:1-7 and 1 Cor. 15:20-28). Paul’s point: Adam’s sin brought in the condemnation of death for all people. All people demonstrate that they deserve such condemnation by their own sin. Christ, the sinless one, has overthrown that condemnation by receiving it undeservedly into Himself, which is the ultimate act of obedience, and rising again. All who ratify Christ’s obedient life, death, and resurrection with their faith in Him will have eternal life.
[13] This is not to say that perfect obedience was not the standard; it was just not the point. True obedience is the expression of covenant faithfulness and utter dependence on God.
[14]Eugene H. Merrill, Everlasting Dominion: A Theology of the Old Testament (Nashville: Broadman and Holman, 2006), 17.
[15]In Gal. 3:8, Paul states quite clearly and without any need for further explanation that “The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham saying, ‘ALL THE NATIONS OF THE EARTH WILL BE BLESSED IN YOU.’” This single covenant in Christ is also in view in 1 Cor. 10:4: “. . . and all [Israel] drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock which followed them; and the rock was Christ.”
[16] Paul’s point in Rom. 1-3, the locus classicus of human sinfulness, is not that people cannot respond to God, but that they will not, even though the results lead to their utter ruin.
[17]Ephesians 2:1 and 5 are frequently cited in support of this view, with a focus on the phrase “dead in your trespasses.” “Dead” here is taken to mean “spiritually” dead, utterly unresponsive to spiritual things. This reading, however, does not work exegetically. Paul’s point in 2.1-7 is that Jews and Gentiles alike were in the same sorry situation and in need of the resurrected and ascended Christ. If Paul means that everyone was “spiritually” dead, then he must also mean that everyone was made “spiritually” alive “with Him.” Does this mean that Jesus was, at some point, incapable of a response to God? Is Paul’s point that Jesus is now “spiritually” alive, responsive to God? Are we now “spiritually” raised and seated with Him in heavenly places? What could this possibly mean? Clearly, Paul is speaking eschatologically here: “Before we trusted Christ our destiny was the condemnation of death. Our behavior confirmed that we were deserving of that sentence. But now our destiny is bound up with His destiny so that ‘in ages to come’ the inclusion of sinners like us will put God’s unbelievable grace on display. How did we come to belong to Christ? By faith.” Paul’s point is not that we are incapable of faith without “regeneration.” His point is that Christ has made a way for those deserving of death to have eternal life, no matter what their ethnicity or level of religious effort. Moreover, if Paul thought that Adam’s sin resulted in spiritual death/total depravity for everyone else, how could he write in Rom. 7:9: “I was once alive apart from the Law”?
[18]“Synergism,” to be sure, would be the category to which the soteriological viewpoint of this paper belongs, if we persist in using these categories, because monergism, in the true sense of the term, in untenable. Unfortunately, this word has theological associations that Baptists reject. Synergism is often considered to be the functional equivalent of semi-Pelagianism, which throws the whole discussion back into abstruse arguments about “operative” and “cooperative” grace, “general” and “effectual” calling, facere quod in se est, etc. forcing us to approach soteriology from Augustinian and medieval Roman Catholic categories rather than biblical ones. Monergism and synergism have simply outlived their usefulness.
[19]See Keathley, Salvation and Sovereignty, 101–8. After thoroughly dismantling the determinism of Calvinism, Keathley, a Baptist theologian, still wants to retain the term “monergism,” qualifying it with his assertion that people can still refuse God’s grace. But if one’s refusal matters, then salvation is not monergistic. Any Calvinist worth his salt would agree. Persisting in the use of the term “monergism” and in defending the logically contradictory concept that “what man does matters and what man does doesn’t matter” is unhelpful.
[20]Malcolm yarnell, Neither Calvinists Nor Arminians but Baptists, White Paper 36 (Ft. Worth, TX: Center for Theological Research, 2010), 7.
[21]The question remains, however, concerning how God foresees faith in the child that dies in infancy. Now God is making decisions based on possibilities rather than actualities, which is extremely problematic. In Arminian traditions that do not practice infant baptism, the tendency toward belief in baptismal regeneration or subsequent Spirit-baptism over-emphasizes human effort in the understanding of free-will over against God’s sovereignty.
[22]Adam Harwood, The Spiritual Condition of Infants: A Biblical-Historical Survey and Systematic Proposal (Eugene, OR: Wipf and Stock, 2011), 23.
[23]R. Albert Mohler, Jr. and Daniel L. Akin, “The Salvation of the ‘Little Ones:’ Do Infants Who Die Go to Heaven?” [article on-line]; June 16, 2009 AlbertMohler.com; Mohler and Akin’s argument is that all infants who die are elect. It is an astounding display of a priori reasoning that runs like this: Since Calvinism is true and since we don’t want to say that some infants go to hell, all infants who die must be elect (even though there is no biblical basis for such a claim).
[24]Malcolm yarnell, “The TULIP of Calvinism in Light of History and the Baptist Faith and Message,” SBC Life, April 2006.
[25] Jerry Vines, “Sermon on John 3:16,” in Whosoever Will, ed. David L. Allen and Steve W. Lemke (Nashville: B&H Academic, 2010), 13–15.
[26] The scriptural basis for each soteriological presupposition discussed below is drawn from the scripture references most common to these gospel presentations.