Is Evil Proof Against God? Where Does It Come From?

Originally posted January of 2016 – fixed some media today

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  • If there is a God, why is there so much evil? How could any God that cares about right and wrong allow so much bad to happen? And if there is no God, who then determines what is right and what is wrong? The answers to these questions, as Boston College philosopher Peter Kreeft explains, go to the heart of ethics, morality and how we know what it means to be a decent person.

The moment you say that one set of moral ideas can be better than another, you are, in fact, measuring them both by a standard, saying that one of them conforms to that standard more nearly than the other. But the standard that measures two things is something different from either.

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My argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust?

C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (Grand Rapids, MI: Zondervan, 2002), 13, 38.

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  • Isn’t human suffering proof that a just, all-powerful God must not exist? On the contrary, says Boston College Professor of Philosophy Peter Kreeft. How can “suffering” exist without an objective standard against which to judge it? Absent a standard, there is no justice. If there is no justice, there is no injustice. And if there is no injustice, there is no suffering. On the other hand, if justice exists, God exists. In five minutes, learn more.

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  • A student asks a question of Ravi Zacharias about God condemning people [atheists] to hell. This Q&A occurred after a presentation Ravi gave at Harvard University, and is now one of his most well-known responses in the apologetic sub-culture. This is an updated version to my 2nd edit of this on my YouTube.

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  • Is evil rational? If it is, then how can we depend on reason alone to make a better world? Best-selling author Dennis Prager has a challenging answer.

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  • Atheists Trying to Have Their Cake and Eat It Too on Morality. This video shows that when an atheist denies objective morality they also affirm moral good and evil without the thought of any contradiction or inconsistency on their part.

EVERY ONE HAS HEARD people quarreling. Sometimes it sounds funny and sometimes it sounds merely unpleasant; but however it sounds, I believe we can learn something very important from listening to the kinds of things they say. They say things like this: “How’d you like it if anyone did the same to you?”–‘That’s my seat, I was there first”–“Leave him alone, he isn’t doing you any harm”–“Why should you shove in first?”–“Give me a bit of your orange, I gave you a bit of mine”–“Come on, you promised.” People say things like that every day, educated people as well as uneducated, and children as well as grown-ups.

Now what interests me about all these remarks is that the man who makes them is not merely saying that the other man’s behavior does not happen to please him. He is appealing to some kind of standard of behavior which he expects the other man to know about. And the other man very seldom replies: “To hell with your standard.” Nearly always he tries to make out that what he has been doing does not really go against the standard, or that if it does there is some special excuse. He pretends there is some special reason in this particular case why the person who took the seat first should not keep it, or that things were quite different when he was given the bit of orange, or that some thing has turned up which lets him off keeping his promise. It looks, in fact, very much as if both parties had in mind some kind of Law or Rule of fair play or decent behavior or morality or whatever you like to call it, about which they really agreed. And they have. If they had not, they might, of course, fight like animals, but they could not quarrel in the human sense of the word. Quarreling means trying to show that the other man is in the wrong. And there would be no sense in trying to do that unless you and he had some sort of agreement as to what Right and Wrong are; just as there would be no sense in saying that a footballer had committed a foul unless there was some agreement about the rules of football.

(accuser) “How’d you like it if anyone did the same to you?”

(responder) “Your right, I apologize.”

(accuser) “That’s my seat, I was there first!”

(responder) “Your right, you were. Here you go.”

(accuser) “Give me a bit of your orange, I gave you a bit of mine.”

(responder) “Oh gosh, I forgot, here you go.”

(accuser) “Come on, you promised.”

(responder) “Your right, lets go to the movies.”

Now this Law or Rule about Right and Wrong used to be called the Law of Nature. Nowadays, when we talk of the “laws of nature” we usually mean things like gravitation, or heredity, or the laws of chemistry. But when the older thinkers called the Law of Right and Wrong “the Law of Nature,” they really meant the Law of Human Nature. The idea was that, just as all bodies are governed by the law of gravitation and organisms by biological laws, so the creature called man also had his law–with this great difference, that a body could not choose whether it obeyed the law of gravitation or not, but a man could choose either to obey the Law of Human Nature or to disobey it.

This law was called the Law of Nature because people thought that every one knew it by nature and did not need to be taught it. They did not mean, of course, that you might not find an odd individual here and there who did not know it, just as you find a few people who are color-blind or have no ear for a tune. But taking the race as a whole, they thought that the human idea of decent behavior was obvious to every one. And I believe they were right. If they were not, then all the things we said about the war were nonsense. What was the sense in saying the enemy were in the wrong unless Right is a real thing which the Nazis at bottom knew as well as we did and ought to have practiced! If they had no notion of what we mean by right, then, though we might still have had to fight them, we could no more have blamed them for that than for the color of their hair.

I know that some people say the idea of a Law of Nature or decent behavior known to all men is unsound, because different civilizations and different ages have had quite different moralities.

But this is not true. There have been differences between their moralities, but these have never amounted to anything like a total difference. If anyone will take the trouble to compare the moral teaching of, say, the ancient Egyptians, Babylonians, Hindus, Chinese, Creeks and Romans, what will really strike him will be how very like they are to each other and to our own. Some of the evidence for this I have put together in the appendix of another book called The Abolition of Man; but for our present purpose I need only ask the reader to think what a totally different morality would mean. Think of a country where people were admired for running away in battle, or where a man felt proud of double-crossing all the people who had been kindest to him. You might just as well try to imagine a country where two and two made five. Men have differed as regards what people you ought to be unselfish to–whether it was only your own family, or your fellow countrymen, or everyone. But they have always agreed that you ought not to put Yourself first. selfishness has never been admired. Men have differed as to whether you should have one wife or four. But they have always agreed that you must not simply have any woman you liked.

But the most remarkable thing is this. Whenever you find a man who says he does not believe in a real Right and Wrong, you will find the same man going back on this a moment later. He may break his promise to you, but if you try breaking one to him he will be complaining “It’s not fair” before you can say Jack Robinson. A nation may say treaties do not matter; but then, next minute, they spoil their case by saying that the particular treaty they want to break was an unfair one. But if treaties do not matter, and if there is no such thing as Right and Wrong–in other words, if there is no Law of Nature–what is the difference between a fair treaty and an unfair one? Have they not let the cat out of the bag and shown that, whatever they say, they really know the Law of Nature just like anyone else?

It seems, then, we are forced to believe in a real Right and Wrong People may be sometimes mistaken about them, just as people sometimes get their sums wrong; but they are not a matter of mere taste and opinion any more than the multiplication table. Now if we are agreed about that, I go on to my next point, which is this. None of us are really keeping the Law of Nature. If there are any exceptions among you, 1 apologize to them. They had much better read some other work, for nothing I am going to say concerns them. And now, turning to the ordinary human beings who are left:

I hope you will not misunderstand what I am going to say. I am not preaching, and Heaven knows I do not pretend to be better than anyone else. I am only trying to call attention to a fact; the fact that this year, or this month, or, more likely, this very day, we have failed to practice ourselves the kind of behavior we expect from other people. There may be all sorts of excuses for us. That time you were so unfair to the children was when you were very tired. That slightly shady business about the money–the one you have almost forgotten-came when you were very hard up. And what you promised to do for old So-and-so and have never done–well, you never would have promised if you had known how frightfully busy you were going to be. And as for your behavior to your wife (or husband) or sister (or brother) if I knew how irritating they could be, I would not wonder at it–and who the dickens am I, anyway? I am just the same. That is to say, I do not succeed in keeping the Law of Nature very well, and the moment anyone tells me I am not keeping it, there starts up in my mind a string of excuses as long as your arm. The question at the moment is not whether they are good excuses. The point is that they are one more proof of how deeply, whether we like it or not, we believe in the Law of Nature. If we do not believe in decent behavior, why should we be so anxious to make excuses for not having behaved decently? The truth is, we believe in decency so much–we feel the Rule of Law pressing on us so–that we cannot bear to face the fact that we are breaking it, and consequently we try to shift the responsibility. For you notice that it is only for our bad behavior that we find all these explanations. It is only our bad temper that we put down to being tired or worried or hungry; we put our good temper down to ourselves.

These, then, are the two points I wanted to make. First, that human beings, all over the earth, have this curious idea that they ought to behave in a certain way, and cannot really get rid of it. Secondly, that they do not in fact behave in that way. They know the Law of Nature; they break it. These two facts are the foundation of all clear thinking about ourselves and the universe we live in.

C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity (New York, NY: Simon & Schuster, 1996), 17-21.

After reading that portion of CLASSIC Lewis, here is some thoughts from a philosopher that I disagree with on many points (he is an atheist after all), but he argues well for the following, even if later rejecting it:

If the reader is not familiar with Mere Christianity, I would urge him or her to buy it. The first chapter alone is worth the cost of the book. It is a brilliant piece of psychology. In it, Lewis sums up two crucial aspects of the human condition. We can see the first aspect in the passage quoted. Human beings do quarrel in the way Lewis describes. We are moral agents who cannot help feeling that there are some things we ought to do, and that there are other things we ought not to do. We believe, sometimes despite ourselves, that there is such a thing as right and wrong, and that there are certain principles of conduct to which we and all other human beings ought to adhere. In our dealings with other people we constantly appeal to those principles. We are quick to notice when others violate them. We get defensive and make excuses when it appears that we have violated them ourselves. We get defensive even when no one else is around. We accuse ourselves when no else does, and we rationalize our behavior in front of our consciences just as we would in front of another person. We cannot help applying to ourselves the principles we firmly believe apply to all. To use Alvin Plantinga’s term, the belief in morality is basic. Even when we reject that belief in our theoretical reasoning, it comes back to haunt us at every turn. We can never really get away from it. There is a reason why our legal system defines insanity as the inability to tell right from wrong: people who lack that ability have lost an important part of their humanity. They have taken a step down towards the level of beasts.

Even if, in our heart of hearts, we all believe in morality, we do not necessarily share the exact same moral values. Differences regarding values are at least a part of what we quarrel about. Yet Lewis correctly recognizes that our differences in this area never amount to a total difference. The moral beliefs human beings entertain display broad cross-cultural similarities. Ancient Egyptians did not appreciate having their property stolen any more than we do. A brother’s murder, a wife’s infidelity, or a friend’s betrayal would have angered them, just as it angers us. Human nature has not changed much for tens of thousands of years. It does not change at all when one travels to the other side of the globe.

I did not believe Lewis the first time I read him, or even the second time. This idea, that there is a fundamental underlying unity to the moral fabric of humanity, is a hard one to accept. Think about those suicidal fanatics who crashed planes into the World Trade Center. They “knew” they were doing the right thing, that Allah would reward them in heaven with virgins galore. How radically different from our own values the values of some Muslims must seem! Yet there is common ground. Even the most militant Muslims despise thieves, cheats, and liars, just as Christians. Jews, and atheists do. They value loyalty and friendship. just as we do. They love their children and their parents. just as we do. They even condemn murder, at least within their own societies. It is only when they deal with outsiders like us that some of them may seem like (and in fact, be) monsters. To distinguish between insiders and outsiders, and to treat the latter horribly, is actually not so unusual in human history. Expanding one’s “inside group” until it encompasses all of humanity is something of an innovation. When we consider all this, the moral gulf between us and them does not seem so unbridgeable. Our admittedly great differences occur against a background of fundamental similarities. Similarities guaranteed by the fact that we are all stuck being human. So it seems Lewis was right, despite my earlier skepticism. Universal moral themes can and do underpin the diversity of our moral opinions.

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Moral statements, then, cannot be mere matters of taste and opinion. They essentially involve an appeal to principles that transcend both the wishes of any one individual, and the customs of any one culture or society. That there are such principles, and that we cannot really escape from them, are points Lewis successfully illuminates. It thus seems very plausible to suppose that when our moral statements appeal to these principles in an appropriate and rational manner, they deserve to be called truths.

Andrew Marker, The Ladder: Escaping from Plato’s Cave (iUniverse.com, 2010), 108-110, 111-112.

These two babies explain better:

John MacArthur Contradicts Calvinism | Soteriology 101

And I have my own private opinion, that there is no such thing as preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is called Calvinism.  I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly.  It is a nickname to call it Calvinism.  Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else.

— Charles Spurgeon, Spurgeon’s Sermons, vol. I (Baker Books, reprinted 2007), 88-89.

Calvinism IS NOT the Gospel. A theological paradigm is not that.

In my apologetic dealings with atheists, I note that even the language a person uses in life (moral categories, laws of thought, meaning of life, etc.) is in distinction to their started worldview. In other words, the Judeo-Christian God/worldview is the only paradigm where this language coherently works. Similarly, our being drawn to God is described best in the view of a sovereign God sovereignly giving his creatures agency. Here we see this at work with John MacArthur.

Free Will and Human Responsibility

Calvinism’s doctrine of Unconditional Election posits that God’s choice is independent of human action, implying humans lack agency in their salvation. However, the Bible repeatedly emphasizes human responsibility in responding to God’s grace.

John 3:16: “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” This verse clearly conditions eternal life on individual belief.

Acts 16:31: “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved.” This directive underscores the necessity of human choice in salvation.

God’s Desire for All to Be Saved

Calvinism asserts that God decrees some to salvation and others to reprobation. This is problematic when measured against verses that show God’s universal salvific will:

1 Timothy 2:4: “[God] desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

2 Peter 3:9: “[God is] not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.”

Foreknowledge vs. Predestination

Calvinists often argue that God’s foreknowledge necessitates predestination, but the Bible presents foreknowledge as God’s knowing in advance who will choose Him, not causing them to believe:

Romans 8:29: “For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son.” The sequence suggests that predestination follows foreknowledge.

1 Peter 1:2: “elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father.” Election is grounded in foreknowledge, not arbitrary decree.

Universal Offer of Salvation

The New Testament teaches that the gospel is offered to all, not only to a predetermined group of elect individuals:

Matthew 11:28: “Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.”

Revelation 22:17: “Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely.”

God’s Justice and Impartiality

Calvinism’s concept of unconditional election raises questions about God’s justice and impartiality:

Acts 10:34-35: “God shows no partiality. But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him.”

Ezekiel 18:23: “Do I have any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? and not that he should turn from his ways and live?”

The Role of Grace

While Calvinism emphasizes irresistible grace (that God’s grace cannot be resisted by the elect), Scripture illustrates that grace can be resisted:

Acts 7:51: “You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit.”

Matthew 23:37: “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem How often I wanted to gather your children together but you were not willing!”

The scriptural problems with Calvinism’s interpretation of salvation center on the denial of human agency and the misrepresentation of God’s character as impartial and loving. The biblical narrative consistently portrays salvation as a cooperative process: God initiates through grace, and humans respond through faith. This balance ensures that God’s sovereignty and human responsibility are harmonized, honoring the scriptural testimony that God foreknows who will choose Him, and based on this knowledge, He elects them for eternal life.

Dr. Flowers responds to another John Piper Podcast in which he answers the question of one who is struggling to keep his faith…

Fractals: The Mandelbrot Set | Jason Lisle

2019 IHCC Men’s Seminar | Saturday Morning Session 2 | Dr. Jason Lisle

(BTW, when he says “sets,” sometimes it sounds like “sex” – Lol)

Have you ever wondered why 2+2 is always 4, no matter where you go? Dr. Jason Lisle explains how the unchanging laws of mathematics reveal the unchanging mind of God. Your daily reliance on math points to something bigger than random chance—something deeply personal.

  • The Mandelbrot set is a very complex and detailed shape; in fact it is infinitely detailed. If we zoom in on a graphed piece of the Mandelbrot set, we see that it appears even more complicated than the original. In Figure 2, we have zoomed in on the “tail” of the Mandelbrot set. And what should we find but another (smaller) version of the original; a “baby” Mandelbrot set is built into the tail of the “parent.” This new, smaller Mandelbrot set also has a tail containing a miniature version of itself, which has a miniature version of itself, etc.—all the way to infinity. The Mandelbrot set is called a “fractal”3 since it has an infinite number of its own shape built into itself. (Answers In Genesis)

This does have a connection to geology, BTW. An older video from Calvary Chapel can be found here:

In this workshop, creation scientist Dr. Jason Lisle explores numbers, using fractals to help show the incredible beauty in even abstract mathematics. Around 36 minutes into the workshop, Dr. Lisle explores the nature of math itself, showing how math simply doesn’t make sense apart from a biblical worldview.

While this isn’t a light video (expect to have to think a little…although you can still get the general idea even if you don’t get the mathematical details), it is an encouraging reminder that there’s amazing beauty in math…and that God is the Creator of that beauty.

Challenges To Strict 5-Point Calvinism | Tozer/Winger/Geisler/Lewis

This post will include lengthy excerpts combined with media… so buckle up buttercup!

  • Let him, therefore, who would beware of such unbelief, always bear in mind, that there is no random power, or agency, or motion in the creatures, who are so governed by the secret counsel of God, that nothing happens but what he has knowingly and willingly decreed. – John Calvin

I reject this strict interpretation by Calvin… Tozer reopens this “knowingly and willingly decreed” to a slightly different understanding that I see is a better fit to this mystery God has unveiled.

This first audio is from A.W. Tozer regarding God’s sovereignty. I also include a partial excerpt from his book, The Knowledge of the Holy: The Attributes of God. Their Meaning in the Christian Life, chapter 22 ~ “The Sovereignty of God” ~ of which the entire chapter is here.

Here is that partial chapter excerpt.

I changed a couple words as can not reads better as cannot:

While a complete explanation of the origin of sin eludes us, there are a few things we do know. In His sovereign wisdom God has permitted evil to exist in carefully restricted areas of His creation, a kind of fugitive outlaw whose activities are temporary and limited in scope. In doing this God has acted according to His infinite wisdom and goodness. More than that no one knows at present; and more than that no one needs to know. The name of God is sufficient guarantee of the perfection of His works.

Another real problem created by the doctrine of the divine sovereignty has to do with the will of man. If God rules His universe by His sovereign decrees, how is it possible for man to exercise free choice? And if he cannot exercise freedom of choice, how can he be held responsible for his conduct? Is he not a mere puppet whose actions are determined by a behind-the-scenes God who pulls the strings as it pleases Him?

The attempt to answer these questions has divided the Christian church neatly into two camps which have borne the names of two distinguished theologians, Jacobus Arminius and John Calvin. Most Christians are content to get into one camp or the other and deny either sovereignty to God or free will to man. It appears possible, however, to reconcile these two positions without doing violence to either, although the effort that follows may prove deficient to partisans of one camp or the other.

Here is my view: God sovereignly decreed that man should be free to exercise moral choice, and man from the beginning has fulfilled that decree by making his choice between good and evil. When he chooses to do evil, he does not thereby countervail the sovereign will of God but fulfills it, inasmuch as the eternal decree decided not which choice the man should make but that he should be free to make it. If in His absolute freedom God has willed to give man limited freedom, who is there to stay His hand or say, What doest thou? Mans will is free because God is sovereign. A God less than sovereign could not bestow moral freedom upon His creatures. He would be afraid to do so.

Perhaps a homely illustration might help us to understand. An ocean liner leaves New York bound for Liverpool. Its destination has been determined by proper authorities. Nothing can change it. This is at least a faint picture of sovereignty.

On board the liner are several scores of passengers. These are not in chains, neither are their activities determined for them by decree. They are completely free to move about as they will. They eat, sleep, play, lounge about on the deck, read, talk, altogether as they please; but all the while the great liner is carrying them steadily onward toward a predetermined port.

Both freedom and sovereignty are present here and they do not contradict each other. So it is, I believe, with mans freedom and the sovereignty of God. The mighty liner of Gods sovereign design keeps its steady course over the sea of history. God moves undisturbed and unhindered toward the fulfilment of those eternal purposes which He purposed in Christ Jesus before the world began. We do not know all that is included in those purposes, but enough has been disclosed to furnish us with a broad outline of things to come and to give us good hope and firm assurance of future well-being.

We know that God will fulfil every promise made to the prophets; we know that sinners will some day be cleansed out of the earth; we know that a ransomed company will enter into the joy of God and that the righteous will shine forth in the kingdom of their Father; we know that Gods perfections will yet receive universal acclamation, that all created intelligences will own Jesus Christ Lord to the glory of God the Father, that the present imperfect order will be done away, and a new heaven and a new earth be established forever.

Toward all this God is moving with infinite wisdom and perfect precision of action. No one can dissuade Him from His purposes; nothing turn Him aside from His plans. Since He is omniscient, there can be no unforeseen circumstances, no accidents. As He is sovereign, there can be no countermanded orders, no breakdown in authority; and as He is omninpotent, there can be no want of power to achieve His chosen ends. God is sufficient unto Himself for all these things.

In the meanwhile things are not as smooth as this quick outline might suggest. The mystery of iniquity doth already work. Within the broad field of Gods sovereign, permissive will the deadly conflict of good with evil continues with increasing fury. God will yet have His way in the whirlwind and the storm, but the storm and the whirlwind are here, and as responsible beings we must make our choice in the present moral situation.

Certain things have been decreed by the free determination of God, and one of these is the law of choice and consequences. God has decreed that all who willingly commit themselves to His Son Jesus Christ in the obedience of faith shall receive eternal life and become sons of God. He has also decreed that all who love darkness and continue in rebellion against the high authority of heaven shall remain in a state of spiritual alienation and suffer eternal death at last.

Reducing the whole matter to individual terms, we arrive at some vital and highly personal conclusions. In the moral conflict now raging around us whoever is on Gods side is on the winning side and cannot lose; whoever is on the other side is on the losing side and cannot win. Here there is no chance, no gamble. There is freedom to choose which side we shall be on but no freedom to negotiate the results of the choice once it is made. By the mercy of God we may repent a wrong choice and alter the consequences by making a new and right choice. Beyond that we cannot go.

The whole matter of moral choice centers around Jesus Christ. Christ stated it plainly: He that is not with me is against me, and No man cometh unto the Father, but by me. The gospel message embodies three distinct elements: an announcement, a command, and a call. It announces the good news of redemption accomplished in mercy; it commands all men everywhere to repent and it calls all men to surrender to the terms of grace by believing on Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour.

We must all choose whether we will obey the gospel or turn away in unbelief and reject its authority. Our choice is our own, but the consequences of the choice have already been determined by the sovereign will of God, and from this there is no appeal.

Here is the excellent first question [of twenty] Mike was attempting to get to get through, which then prompted me to go thru a bunch of his videos. I will include links to those below the video I grabbed the response to that first question from:

Why God Hardens Hearts: Romans 9:17-24 (YouTube) – This topic is what, many years ago led me to come up with the idea that as God [in His perfect justice] and Man [in his freedom to rebel] working in a mystery together led to the eventual hardening of Pharoah’s heart. God’s perfect sovereignty and man’s limited freedom will culminate in God’s will/plan/glory being executed perfectly.

AND THIS IS A MYSTERY

Our freedoms — as such, and God’s sovereignty. Working in tandem. One of many mysteries involving an infinite Being: the Judeo/Christian God, YHWH.

  • “But I will harden Pharaoh’s heart and multiply my signs and wonders in the land of Egypt.”  – Exodus 7:3
  • “But the LORD hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he did not listen to them, as the LORD had told Moses.” – Exodus 9:12
  • “Then the Lord said to Moses, ‘Go to Pharaoh, for I have hardened his heart and the heart of his servants, that I may show these signs of mine among them.’” – Exodus 10:1
  • “I will harden Pharaoh’s heart so that he will pursue them. Then I will receive glory by means of Pharaoh and all his army, and the Egyptians will know that I am the LORD.” So the Israelites did this.” – Exodus 14:4
  • “The LORD hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and he pursued the Israelites, who were going out defiantly.” – Exodus 14:8

— combined with Romans 1:18-25:

For God’s wrath is revealed from heaven against all godlessness and unrighteousness of people who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth, since what can be known about God is evident among them, because God has shown it to them. For his invisible attributes, that is, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen since the creation of the world, being understood through what he has made. As a result, people are without excuse. For though they knew God, they did not glorify him as God or show gratitude. Instead, their thinking became worthless, and their senseless hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man, birds, four-footed animals, and reptiles.

Therefore God delivered them over in the desires of their hearts to sexual impurity, so that their bodies were degraded among themselves. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served what has been created instead of the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen.

A good dealing with the order of the verbs in these and other passages of the hardening of Pharoah’s heart is HERE (it is a must read in my opinion, even though it is long). The author is more on the hard-Armenian side of the aisle, but nonetheless his treatment of the issue is one I made years ago. I believe both the strict 5-pointer and the Arminian over-step their bound like we try to relegate the Trinity to water/ice/steam. We all misuse language in trying to describe the God who saved us, and we will continue in this failure/endeavor in our discussions. Thankfully the Holy Spirit is the giver of real Truth by pointing us to Jesus for the Glory of the Father:

fundamentally, the way we know Christianity to be true is by the self-authenticating witness of God’s Holy Spirit. Now what do I mean by that? I mean that the experience of the Holy Spirit is veridical and unmistakable (though not necessarily irresistible or indubitable) for him who has it; that such a person does not need supplementary arguments or evidence in order to know and to know with confidence that he is in fact experiencing the Spirit of God; that such experience does not function in this case as a premise in any argument from religious experience to God, but rather is the immediate experiencing of God himself; that in certain contexts the experience of the Holy Spirit will imply the apprehension of certain truths of the Christian religion, such as “God exists,” “I am condemned by God,” “I am reconciled to God,” “Christ lives in me,” and so forth; that such an experience Provides one not only with a subjective assurance of Christianity’s truth, but with objective knowledge of that truth; and that arguments and evidence incompatible with that truth are overwhelmed by the experience of the Holy Spirit for him who attends fully to it.

William Lane Craig, Reasonable Faith: Christian Truth and Apologetics, 3rd ed. (Wheaton, IL: Crossway Books, 2008), 43

Other Mike Winger YouTube discussions are…

BTW, there are many debates I have watched on this topic by James White. I highly recommend Dr. White and his ministry, they have had a huge apologetic influence on me over the years.

I also use thinking over the years to note this idea of God’s sovereignty and foreknowledge in my life in a two page testimony I use this graphic in:

Another influential apologetics “coach” in my life was Dr. Norman Geisler. Here is a presentation I uploaded for this post:

CS LEWIS was another huge influence on my apologetic life. I noted in his book, The Problem of Pain, this part from chapter 3 and 4,

“Divine Goodness”

Any consideration of the goodness of God at once threat­ens us with the following dilemma.

On the one hand, if God is wiser than we His judge­ment must differ from ours on many things, and not least on good and evil. What seems to us good may therefore not be good in His eyes, and what seems to us evil may not be evil.

On the other hand, if God’s moral judgement differs from ours so that our ‘black’ may be His ‘white’, we can mean nothing by calling Him good; for to say ‘God is good’, while asserting that His goodness is wholly other than ours, is really only to say ‘God is we know not what’. And an utterly unknown quality in God cannot give us moral grounds for loving or obeying Him. If He is not (in our sense) ‘good’ we shall obey, if at all, only through fear—and should be equally ready to obey an omnipotent Fiend. The doctrine of Total Depravity— when the consequence is drawn that, since we are totally depraved, our idea of good is worth simply nothing— may thus turn Christianity into a form of devil-worship.

The escape from this dilemma depends on observing what happens, in human relations, when the man of infe­rior moral standards enters the society of those who are better and wiser than he and gradually learns to accept their standards—a process which, as it happens, I can describe fairly accurately, since I have undergone it. When I came first to the University I was as nearly with­out a moral conscience as a boy could be. Some faint dis­taste for cruelty and for meanness about money was my utmost reach—of chastity, truthfulness, and self-sacrifice I thought as a baboon thinks of classical music. By the mercy of God I fell among a set of young men (none of them, by the way, Christians) who were sufficiently close to me in intellect and imagination to secure immediate intimacy, but who knew, and tried to obey, the moral law. Thus their judgement of good and evil was very different from mine. Now what happens in such a case is not in the least like being asked to treat as ‘white’ what was hitherto called black. The new moral judgements never enter the mind as mere reversals (though they do reverse them) of previous judgements but ‘as lords that are certainly expected’. You can have no doubt in which direction you are moving: they are more like good than the little shreds of good you already had, but are, in a sense, continuous with them. But the great test is that the recognition of the new standards is accompanied with the sense of shame and guilt: one is conscious of having blundered into soci­ety that one is unfit for. It is in the light of such experi­ences that we must consider the goodness of God. Beyond all doubt, His idea of ‘goodness’ differs from ours; but you need have no fear that, as you approach it, you will be asked simply to reverse your moral standards. When the relevant difference between the Divine ethics and your own appears to you, you will not, in fact, be in any doubt that the change demanded of you is in the direction you already call ‘better’. The Divine ‘goodness’ differs from ours, but it is not sheerly different: it differs from ours not as white from black but as a perfect circle from a child’s first attempt to draw a wheel. But when the child has learned to draw, it will know that the circle it then makes is what it was trying to make from the very beginning.

This doctrine is presupposed in Scripture. Christ calls men to repent—a call which would be meaningless if God’s standards were sheerly different from that which they already knew and failed to practise. He appeals to our existing moral judgement—‘Why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?’ (Luke 12:57) God in the Old Testament expostulates with men on the basis of their own concep­tions of gratitude, fidelity, and fair play: and puts Himself, as it were, at the bar before His own creatures—‘What iniquity have your fathers found in me, that they are gone far from me?’ (Jeremiah 2:5.)


CS Lewis | The Problem of Pain (Chapter 3)

“Human Wickedness”

A recovery of the old sense of sin is essential to Christianity. Christ takes it for granted that men are bad. Until we really feel this assumption of His to be true, though we are part of the world He came to save, we are not part of the audience to whom His words are addressed. We lack the first condition for understanding what He is talking about. And when men attempt to be Christians without this preliminary consciousness of sin, the result is almost bound to be a certain resentment against God as to one always inexplicably angry. Most of us have at times felt a secret sympathy with the dying farmer who replied to the Vicar’s dissertation on repentance by asking ‘What harm have I ever done Him?’ There is the real rub. The worst we have done to God is to leave Him alone—why can’t He return the compliment? Why not live and let live? What call has He, of all beings, to be ‘angry’? It’s easy for Him to be good!

Now at the moment when a man feels real guilt— moments too rare in our lives—all these blasphemies vanish away. Much, we may feel, can be excused to human infirmities: but not this—this incredibly mean and ugly action which none of our friends would have done, which even such a thorough-going little rotter as X would have been ashamed of, which we would not for the world allow to be published. At such a moment we really do know that our character, as revealed in this action, is, and ought to be, hateful to all good men, and, if there are powers above man, to them. A God who did not regard this with unappeasable distaste would not be a good being. We cannot even wish for such a God—it is like wishing that every nose in the universe were abol­ished, that smell of hay or roses or the sea should never again delight any creature, because our own breath hap­pens to stink.

When we merely say that we are bad, the ‘wrath’ of God seems a barbarous doctrine; as soon as we perceive our badness, it appears inevitable, a mere corollary from God’s goodness. To keep ever before us the insight derived from such a moment as I have been describing, to learn to detect the same real inexcusable corruption under more and more of its complex disguises, is therefore indis­pensable to a real understanding of the Christian faith. This is not, of course, a new doctrine. I am attempting nothing very splendid in this chapter. I am merely trying to get my reader (and, still more, myself) over a pons asi-norum—to take the first step out of fools’ paradise and utter illusion. But the illusion has grown, in modern times, so strong, that I must add a few considerations tending to make the reality less incredible.

  1. We are deceived by looking on the outside of things. We suppose ourselves to be roughly not much worse than Y, whom all acknowledge for a decent sort of person, and certainly (though we should not claim it out loud) better than the abominable X. Even on the superficial level we are probably deceived about this. Don’t be too sure that your friends think you as good as Y. The very fact that you selected him for the comparison is suspicious: he is prob­ably head and shoulders above you and your circle. But let us suppose that Y and yourself both appear ‘not bad’. How far Y’s appearance is deceptive, is between Y and God. His may not be deceptive: you know that yours is.

Does this seem to you a mere trick, because I could say the same to Y and so to every man in turn? But that is just the point. Every man, not very holy or very arrogant, has to ‘live up to’ the outward appearance of other men: he knows there is that within him which falls far below even his most careless public behaviour, even his loosest talk. In an instant of time—while your friend hesitates for a word—what things pass through your mind? We have never told the whole truth. We may confess ugly facts— the meanest cowardice or the shabbiest and most prosaic impurity—but the tone is false. The very act of confess-ing—an infinitesimally hypocritical glance—a dash of humour—all this contrives to dissociate the facts from your very self. No one could guess how familiar and, in a sense, congenial to your soul these things were, how much of a piece with all the rest: down there, in the dreaming inner warmth, they struck no such discordant note, were not nearly so odd and detachable from the rest of you, as they seem when they are turned into words. We imply, and often believe, that habitual vices are excep­tional single acts, and make the opposite mistake about our virtues—like the bad tennis player who calls his nor­mal form his ‘bad days’ and mistakes his rare successes for his normal. I do not think it is our fault that we cannot tell the real truth about ourselves; the persistent, life-long, inner murmur of spite, jealousy, prurience, greed and self-complacence, simply will not go into words. But the  important thing is that we should not mistake our inevitably limited utterances for a full account of the worst that is inside.

  1. A reaction—in itself wholesome—is now going on against purely private or domestic conceptions of moral­ity, a reawakening of the social We feel our­selves to be involved in an iniquitous social system and to share a corporate guilt. This is very true: but the enemy can exploit even truths to our deception. Beware lest you are making use of the idea of corporate guilt to distract your attention from those humdrum, old-fashioned guilts of your own which have nothing to do with ‘the system’ and which can be dealt with without waiting for the mil­lennium. For corporate guilt perhaps cannot be, and cer­tainly is not, felt with the same force as personal guilt. For most of us, as we now are, this conception is a mere excuse for evading the real issue. When we have really learned to know our individual corruption, then indeed we can go on to think of the corporate guilt and can hardly think of it too much. But we must learn to walk before we run.
  2. We have a strange illusion that mere time cancels sin. I have heard others, and I have heard myself, recounting cruelties and falsehoods committed in boyhood as if they were no concern of the present speaker’s, and even with laughter. But mere time does nothing either to the fact or to the guilt of a sin. The guilt is washed out not by time but by repentance and the blood of Christ: if we have repented these early sins we should remember the price of our forgiveness and be humble. As for the fact of a sin, is it probable that anything cancels it? All times are eternally present to God. Is it not at least possible that along some one line of His multi-dimensional eternity He sees you forever in the nursery pulling the wings off a fly, forever toadying, lying, and lusting as a schoolboy, forever in that moment of cowardice or insolence as a subaltern? It may be that salvation consists not in the cancelling of these eternal moments but in the perfected humanity that bears the shame forever, rejoicing in the occasion which it fur­nished to God’s compassion and glad that it should be common knowledge to the universe. Perhaps in that eter­nal moment St Peter—he will forgive me if I am wrong— forever denies his Master. If so, it would indeed be true that the joys of Heaven are for most of us, in our present condition, ‘an acquired taste’—and certain ways of life may render the taste impossible of acquisition. Perhaps the lost are those who dare not go to such a public Of course I do not know that this is true; but I think the possibility is worth keeping in mind.
  3. We must guard against the feeling that there is ‘safety in numbers’. It is natural to feel that if all men are as bad as the Christians say, then badness must be very excus­able. If all the boys plough in the examination, surely the papers must have been too hard? And so the masters at that school feel till they learn that there are other schools where ninety per cent of the boys passed on the same papers. Then they begin to suspect that the fault did not lie with the examiners. Again, many of us have had the experience of living in some local pocket of human soci-ety—some particular school, college, regiment or profes­sion where the tone was bad. And inside that pocket certain actions were regarded as merely normal (‘Every­one does it’) and certain others as impracticably virtuous and Quixotic. But when we emerged from that bad soci­ety we made the horrible discovery that in the outer world our ‘normal’ was the kind of thing that no decent person ever dreamed of doing, and our ‘Quixotic’ was taken for granted as the minimum standard of decency. What had seemed to us morbid and fantastic scruples so long as we were in the ‘pocket’ now turned out to be the only moments of sanity we there enjoyed. It is wise to face the possibility that the whole human race (being a small thing in the universe) is, in fact, just such a local pocket of evil—an isolated bad school or regiment inside which minimum decency passes for heroic virtue and utter corruption for pardonable imperfection. But is there any evidence—except Christian doctrine itself—that this is so? I am afraid there is. In the first place, there are those odd people among us who do not accept the local stan­dard, who demonstrate the alarming truth that a quite dif­ferent behaviour is, in fact, possible. Worse still, there is the fact that these people, even when separated widely in space and time, have a suspicious knack of agreeing with one another in the main—almost as if they were in touch with some larger public opinion outside the pocket. What is common to Zarathustra, Jeremiah, Socrates, Gautama, Christ1 and Marcus Aurelius, is something pretty sub­stantial. Thirdly, we find in ourselves even now a theoret­ical approval of this behaviour which no one practises. Even inside the pocket we do not say that justice, mercy, fortitude, and temperance are of no value, but only that the local custom is as just, brave, temperate and merciful as can reasonably be expected. It begins to look as if the neglected school rules even inside this bad school were connected with some larger world—and that when the term ends we might find ourselves facing the public opin­ion of that larger world. But the worst of all is this: we cannot help seeing that only the degree of virtue which we now regard as impracticable can possibly save our race from disaster even on this planet. The standard which seems to have come into the ‘pocket’ from outside, turns out to be terribly relevant to conditions inside the pocket—so relevant that a consistent practice of virtue by the human race even for ten years would fill the earth from pole to pole with peace, plenty, health, merriment, and heartsease, and that nothing else will. It may be the custom, down here, to treat the regimental rules as a dead letter or a counsel of perfection: but even now, everyone who stops to think can see that when we meet the enemy this neglect is going to cost every man of us his life. It is then that we shall envy the ‘morbid’ person, the ‘pedant’ or ‘enthusiast’ who really has taught his company to shoot and dig in and spare their water bottles.

[….]

This chapter will have been misunderstood if anyone describes it as a reinstatement of the doctrine of Total Depravity. I disbelieve that doctrine, partly on the logical ground that if our depravity were total we should not know ourselves to be depraved, and partly because experience shows us much goodness in human nature. Nor am I recommending universal gloom. The emotion of shame has been valued not as an emotion but because of the insight to which it leads. I think that insight should be permanent in each man’s mind: but whether the painful emotions that attend it should also be encouraged, is a technical problem of spiritual direction on which, as a layman, I have little call to speak. My own idea, for what it is worth, is that all sadness which is not either arising from the repentance of a concrete sin and hastening towards concrete amendment or restitution, or else arising from pity and hastening to active assistance, is simply bad; and I think we all sin by needlessly disobeying the apostolic injunction to ‘rejoice’ as much as by anything else. Humility, after the first shock, is a cheerful virtue: it is the high-minded unbeliever, desperately trying in the teeth of repeated disillusions to retain his ‘faith in human nature’, who is really sad. I have been aiming at an intellectual, not an emotional, effect: I have been trying to make the reader believe that we actually are, at present, creatures whose character must be, in some respects, a horror to God, as it is, when we really see it, a horror to ourselves. This I believe to be a fact: and I notice that the holier a man is, the more fully he is aware of that fact. Perhaps you have imagined that this humility in the saints is a pious illusion at which God smiles. That is a most dangerous error. It is theoretically dangerous, because it makes you identify a virtue (i.e., a perfection) with an illusion (i.e., an imperfection), which must be nonsense. It is practically dangerous because it encourages a man to mistake his first insights into his own corruption for the first beginnings of a halo round his own silly head. No, depend upon it; when the saints say that they—even they—are vile, they are recording truth with scientific accuracy.


CS Lewis | The Problem of Pain (Chapter 4)

Needless to say I have been privy to this debate since the 80’s.

I like to say I am a Baptist except for dress and drink… but a Baptist nonetheless. I am not a 1689 Confession type Baptist. I have always joked that I am a 3.5 Calvinist when I read Norman Geisler, and a 4.5 Calvinist when I read James White.

No more.

This next part comes from a post about preaching the Gospel to ourselves. And in the middle of this post I have the following. And THE REASON I put that there was to note that a majority of Calvinists give lip play to a distinction between “total” and “utter” depravity, but many use language and ideas to the “utter” end of the spectrum.

A TEACHING BREAK

A spiritually dead person, then, is in need of spiritual life from God. But he does exist, and he can know and choose. His faculties that make up the image of God are not absent; they are simply incapable of initiating or attaining their own salvation. Like a drowning person, a fallen person can reach out and accept the lifeline even though he cannot make it to safety on his own.

The below is from Geisler’s book, Chosen but Free:

Sproul has a wonderful ministry, and he [Sproul] has asked ~ rhetorically ~ how: anyone could be involved in believing in the value of human worth and at the same time believing in TOTAL depravity? He responds:

The very fact that Calvinists take sin so seriously is because they take the value of human beings so seriously. It is because man was made in the image of God, called to mirror and reflect God’s holiness, that we have the distinction of being the image-bearers of God.

But what does ‘total depravity’ mean? Total depravity means simply this: that sin affects every aspect of our human existence: our minds, our wills and our bodies are affected by sin. Every dimension of our personality suffers at some point from the weight of sin that has infected the human race.

So the argument is nuanced and deep.

Thus I split the horns and end up tweaking some of the 5-points, and getting rid of others.

Again:

  • Let him, therefore, who would beware of such unbelief, always bear in mind, that there is no random power, or agency, or motion in the creatures, who are so governed by the secret counsel of God, that nothing happens but what he has knowingly and willingly decreed. – John Calvin

I do not take that as Gospel Truth, in other words. The following graph serves as a good comparison between the two (larger here):

 

Dissecting Salvonic Authority In Roman Catholicism | White-Winger

The Roman Catholic Church’s changing authorities. This is actually a pretty brutal truth telling of what would have happened to Pope Francis in the 1600s.

The Roman Catholic Church’s “Infallibility” | James White

In an excellent and humble dealing with some of his hang-ups with Roman-Catholicism, Mike Winger shows how the Catholic doctrine of works is counter to the clear teaching of the Bible.

Roman Catholicism vs Biblical Salvation | Mike Winger

Predictions by #NeverTrumpers Go Down in Flames (UPDATED!)

(ORIGINALLY POSTED APRIL 10th)

A short video I did from work April 4th immediately caused a response from a #NeverTrump follower. But first, the first thing I thought of when he engaged in this worse case scenario the DAY OF the tariff war against China — because this was all about getting our allies to be fairer with us with their own markets as well as getting them on the same page against China — were the price of eggs. (POWERLINE – April 4th is when I posted this April 2nd story on my sites FB):

Democrats thought they had a great issue in the high price of eggs, due mostly to avian bird flu. In January, they were touting record-high egg prices as proof of the failure of Trump’s administration–even though the figures released in January were for December, before Trump’s inauguration.

Weirdly, the Democrats’ harping on eggs has continued even as the price has plummeted, as in this LA Times column, published on March 8:

As their party struggles to navigate the early days of Donald Trump’s second presidency, some Democrats are convinced that their road to recovery lies in the price of eggs.

Instead of leaning into Trump’s tear-down of the federal government or his alliance with billionaire lieutenant Elon Musk, they’re steering to what they perceive as the everyday concerns of Americans — none more important than grocery prices and eggs in particular.

U.S. egg prices hit a record average of $4.95 per dozen in January, surpassing a previous record set in January 2023, according to federal data.

Meanwhile, what has actually happened to the price of eggs:

What was it that cartoon villains used to say? Curses, foiled again! It’s almost enough to make you feel sorry for the Democrats. They apparently are left with no better strategy than torching Teslas.

I also posted this graphic March 14th with this comment:

  • If the Left thought the argument in February was effective – egg prices being higher than when Trump took office – what does that do to the argument now that egg prices are lower slightly than when Trump took office? (FYI, egg prices will rise temporarily as we get into April. BTW, if you do not know why, have a kid, or go to church. Preferably both.)

CLICK TO ENLARGE

Similar to the idea above… Tim Walz is having an aneurism today. But the upside is that his states investment portfolio is involved in Tesla stock:

Which brings me to my #NeverTrumper thorn. Here is his day-of comments with mine (click pic to enlarge):

THINGS THAT DIDN’T AGE WELL:

JIM G: How bad will it have to get before you admit that Trump’s tariff’s are absolutely foolish? How much of a YTD decline in the Dow, S&P 500, or Nasdaq would make you admit that he doesn’t understand basic economics? Give me a number. Would a 25% decline be enough?

RPT: uhm, okay you got me. One day in. I give up. 😆

JIM G: how many days we’re into the tariffs (1 day) or into the new administration (over 2 months now) is irrelevant. Give me a number at which point you would say, “Uh oh. Maybe he doesn’t know what he’s doing. This is really bad.”

RPT: let’s see where we are at after 8 years of Vance. 😉

JIM G: you can’t answer my simple question, can you? Why would anyone want 8 years of Vance? That would be adding more lies, incompetence, arrogance, pride, and foolishness on top of the lies, ignorance, foolishness, and lies we already have had with Trump.

RPT: you are in the minority of #NeverTrumpers

BEGIN UPDATE for JIM G.

S&P UP 50 Points From Before Tariffs (Larry O’Connor)

Remember, JimG asked:

  • How much of a YTD decline in the Dow, S&P 500, or Nasdaq would make you admit that he doesn’t understand basic economics? Give me a number. Would a 25% decline be enough?

My FACEBOOK response question is after the above:

  • The counter question is how good will it have to get before you embrace the negotiating tactics Trump used?

END UPDATE

The best way to express what happened is by comparing it to something that happened in elementary schools when my boys went. There was a time when my sone could bring invites to his birthday party to a few friends. But school administrators said this was unfair, so the new rule was the birthday child had to invite the entire class.

The same with wanting to checking China’s ambitions and hurting them in their war against us. Because they are part of the World Trade Organization, the United States just couldn’t raise tariffs against China alone. So we had to raise tariffs on the world. (This of course had it’s benefits as well with countries wanting to have free trade for reals.) But as soon as China responded with tariffs of their own, the U.S. had carte blanche to deal with China as we see fit.

So, the stock market and DOW have made some comebacks already… this will be a long term goal to fight China’s war with the West. So ups and downs will be expected. But the immediacy and not understanding the goals and pigeon holing the outcome literally in the first days is – well – someone with TDS would do.

A good book on the whole issue?

For more than forty years, the United States has played an indispensable role helping the Chinese government build a booming economy, develop its scientific and military capabilities, and take its place on the world stage, in the belief that China’s rise will bring us cooperation, diplomacy, and free trade. But what if the “China Dream” is to replace us, just as America replaced the British Empire, without firing a shot?

Based on interviews with Chinese defectors and newly declassified, previously undisclosed national security documents, The Hundred-Year Marathon reveals China’s secret strategy to supplant the United States as the world’s dominant power, and to do so by 2049, the one-hundredth anniversary of the founding of the People’s Republic. Michael Pillsbury, a fluent Mandarin speaker who has served in senior national security positions in the U.S. government since the days of Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger, draws on his decades of contact with the “hawks” in China’s military and intelligence agencies and translates their documents, speeches, and books to show how the teachings of traditional Chinese statecraft underpin their actions. He offers an inside look at how the Chinese really view America and its leaders – as barbarians who will be the architects of their own demise.

Pillsbury also explains how the U.S. government has helped – sometimes unwittingly and sometimes deliberately – to make this “China Dream” come true, and he calls for the United States to implement a new, more competitive strategy toward China as it really is, and not as we might wish it to be. The Hundred-Year Marathon is a wake-up call as we face the greatest national security challenge of the twenty-first century.

Kilmar Abrego Garcia: Due Process, Gang Affiliation, and More

Kilmar Abrego Garcia: Due Process, Gang Affiliation, and More — These clips are from the Larry Elder Show, the Five, Fox News, the New York Post, and the Hodge Twins

BONUS – MUST LISTEN

The “Due Process” Lie & “Maryland Man” Hoax w/ Andrew Arthur…

Immigration. Deportation. Due process. Border security. Everyone thinks they’re an expert—but few actually are. In this deep-dive conversation, Larry O’Connor sits down with Andrew Arthur, a former immigration judge, House Oversight counsel, and national security law expert, to dismantle the myths and misinformation flooding mainstream media and social platforms.

From his time at the DOJ under both Democratic and Republican administrations to his hands-on courtroom experience, Arthur brings unparalleled insight into the legal, historical, and political truth about U.S. immigration policy. Why did immigration enforcement collapse under Obama in 2014? What changed under Trump? Is Biden’s DHS flying in unvetted migrants from hostile nations? And does due process apply the way the media claims it does?

You’ll learn:

What the Alien Enemies Act really is—and how Trump is invoking it

The truth behind sanctuary cities and the “asylum loophole”

Why ICE agents now face more danger than ever

How non-citizens affect congressional representation and the Electoral College

Whether federal judges are obstructing legal deportations for political reasons

This is the must-watch immigration breakdown the legacy press refuses to deliver.

The Fall of the German Gods (Chapter 7)

H. E. Westermeyer, The Fall of the German Gods
(Mountain View, CA: Pacific Press Publishing Association, 1950), 163-194
[spelling in the original – page breaks included – references added]

(PDF version of the chapterRaw PDF of the entire book)
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See also: Defending “Lutheranism” from Martin Luther’s Fall from Grace)

[P.>146] Protestantism and Nazism [Chapter 7]

PROTESTANTISM, which had been cradlled and nourished in Germany, came into conflict with the totalitarian ideas and the revolutionary measures of the Nazi regime, even as Catholicism did. The controversy here, as with Catholicism, was partially attributable to age-old connections with, and de­pendence upon, the state. The basic reason for the struggle went much deeper than surface skirmishes over church-state relations. It concerned the very essence of the gospel. Salva­tion by race and Aryan blood strove to supplant salvation by grace and faith in God’s word.

Protestant leaders, too, had occasion to issue numerous warnings to church members, and to direct repeated appeals to the government. D. Kurt Dietrich Schmidt compiled a series of four volumes of protests, under the title, Confessions and Fundamental Declarations Relating to Church Questions. One of these volumes was published for each of the years, 1933- 1936.1

Each volume contains from two to three hundred pages of official and quasi-official viewpoints, ranging from naked pa­ganism to armor-clad faith. They exhibit a remarkable degree of analytical ability, versatility, courage, and conviction.

The reading of these forceful pronouncements helps one to understand better why the sixteenth-century Reformation be­came so effective among the Germans, and it helps to make clear why Hitler failed to impose his will upon the stalwart Protestants of modern Germany.

For the student of the German church struggle these vol- [P.>147] umes are among the best source material available. The decla­rations they contain deal specifically with the issues involved in the struggle, and throw considerable light upon the policies em­ployed by Nazi leaders in their attempt to bring the churches under the influence and control of an all-embracing Reich.

One of the clearest statements regarding the struggle of the Evangelical Church in Germany was contained in the Evangeli­cal Church letter addressed to Hitler in May, 1936.2 This letter was written three years after the adoption of a new constitution for the German Evangelical Church, on the basis of which the pro-Nazi German Christians had succeeded in forcing the elec­tion of Ludwig Mueller as Reich bishop. “The political church struggle is now over,” the new church head had announced. “The struggle for the soul of the people now begins.”3 His at­tempts to introduce Nazi methods and ideology into the church had led to the formation of a separate provisional church gov­ernment which held itself to represent the rightful leadership in the church. It was called Confessional because it put the confession of faith in God’s word before any ideological belief of Nazism. Consequently it stood in opposition to Bishop Mueller’s regime. During the same period a new policy for church administration had been undertaken by the appoint­ment of Hans Kerr! as Reich minister of church affairs. He had been seeking to govern the church by the appointment of com­mittees, but his methods were encountering the same opposition that Bishop Mueller’s had met.

Then in the spring of 1936 came this clear statement from Protestant leaders, revealing the whole nature and extent of the conflict between Protestantism and Nazism.

In this memorandum, addressed to Hitler personally, the question was raised as to whether the attempt to dechristianize the German people was to become the official policy of the government. It asserted that authoritative persons in state and party were giving arbitrary interpretations to the idea of positive Christianity. The Reich minister for public enlighten­ment and propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, had declared that pos- [P.>148] itive Christianity was merely humanitarian service; and the Reich instruction leader, Alfred Rosenberg, had proclaimed his mysticism of blood to be positive Christianity. Following their example, other party officials had defamed the belief of the Confessional Church as being merely negative Christianity. The harm done by such utterances became all the greater, in­asmuch as the church was never given the oportunity of con­futing, with the same publicity, the misrepresentations of the Christian faith made from high places.

Continuing, the Confessional Church voiced its objection to the destruction of church organizations, and against the Reich policy of curbing the public work of the church. It de­clared that Evangelical members of National Socialist organi­zations were required to pledge themselves unreservedly to the principles of Nazism, though those principles were frequently presented as a substitute for Christianity. When blood, race, nationality, and honor received the rank of eternal values, the Evangelical Christian was compelled by the first command­ment to reject such estimates. Even though the Aryan man was glorified, God’s word still testified to the sinfulness of all men. When anti-Semitism instilled hatred of the Jews, the Christian had to remember the command to love his neighbor.

In the protest a stand was made no less definitely against the inroad of a morality, essentially foreign to Christianity, which proclaimed, “Right is what serves the people; wrong, what injures it.” It was pointed out that the spirit of a mo­rality based on what is advantageous to a people would lead to contempt of the command to be sincere and truthful. The letter emphasized that the Evangelical conscience, which shared the responsibility for the people and the government, was most heavily burdened by the fact that there were concentration camps in Germany, which professed to be a country in which justice was administered ; and it voiced opposition against the measures and actions of the secret state police, which were exempt from any judicial control. The document referred to the frequent use of the oath in [P.>149] swearing allegiance and making pledges as being a definite danger in that it robbed the oath of its dignity and led to the profanation and abuse of the name of God. The protest ex­pressed uneasiness over the deification of the Fuehrer to the point where he was invested with the religious dignity of a national priest and mediator between God and the people.

These were bold words to be directed to the highest authority in Nazidom. They came from men whose consciences were sorely burdened, and who, therefore, felt justified in calling Hitler’s personal attention to tendencies which they regarded as being inherently evil.

Whether this document, addressed confidentially to the Fuehrer, ever reached his hands is not known. At this time the leader of the new Reich had many other matters to engage his interests.

These were the days when Hitler began to play for high international stakes. He had recently repudiated the Treaty of Versailles and marched 20,000 troops into the Rhineland to re-establish the “Watch on the Rhine.” Nazi economists had introduced the four-year plan, and Herman Goering had de­clared that henceforth the slogan of the German people must be, “Guns before butter.” Hitler made envious references to the minerals of the Urals, the wheat fields of the Ukraine, and the oil wells of the Caucasus. At this time, too, the storm clouds of a civil war were gathering over Spain, and the Rome-Berlin axis was under consideration. All these developments had the enthusiastic support of the German people, Hitler’s foreign policy being approved by a 99 per cent popular vote.

German racialism and nationalism were on the march. Be­fore 1933 the Nazis had made anti-Semitism merely an article of their creed, but by 1936 Jewish persecution had become official. Millions of Germans in neighboring countries—in Aus­tria, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, and Russia—were be­ing taught to agitate for reunion with the fatherland. The idea of a “Great Germany” quickened the pride of German hearts everywhere—and there were many religious hearts among them.

[P.>150] The discerning Winston Churchill, who later rallied the English people to endure blood, toil, tears, and sweat, declared, “Ger­many must soon either expand or explode.”

In the midst of these aspirations Hitler must have regarded church protests and internal church squabbles as something bordering on nonsense. After an interval of a few weeks, to the dismay of Confessional circles, the Evangelical Church letter was published simultaneously throughout the entire German press, and it also appeared in the foreign press. It was de­nounced by the Church Ministry and by party leaders as an attempt to embarrass the government at a time when a large number of visitors were in Germany in the interest of the Olympic Games. The difficulties of the Confessional movement were thus only increased.4

But the churchmen persisted. Their personal memorandum to Hitler was soon followed by the issuance of a church mani­festo which restated and confirmed the gist of the appeal that had been addressed to the chancellor. It was read by the Con­fessional pastors on Sunday, August 23, 1936. It indicated not only the seriousness of the situation but also the seriousness with which the church was resolved to fulfill its duty to the German people. It declared that a systematic war was being waged against the gospel by the very government which mil­lions of Evangelical Germans had greeted with enthusiasm four years earlier.

As if taking a leaf out of the Declaration of Independence, it said, “We have waited. We have made remonstrances. We have even laid before the Fuehrer in writing the things that burden the heart and conscience of Evangelical Christians. . . . From now on we are compelled . . . to oppose freely and publicly, without fear of man, attacks on the gospel.”5

While no official recognition was ever given these appeals, Rosenberg subsequently made pointed reference to them in a brochure called Protestant Pilgrims to Rome. After accusing the Protestant leaders of having betrayed Luther and of having turned their faith into an instrument of war against the foun- [P.>151] dations of the German Reich, he maintained that these officials never once had stirred when Bolshevism raged in Germany and when the Jews trampled in the dust those things Germany held to be sacred. Instead, they left to National Socialism the task of saving the church from extinction. Now the leaders of the church emerge from their hiding places, he concluded, and bluntly demand the abolition of those very values which saved Germany from destruction.6

Doubtless the author of Protestant Pilgrims to Rome was correct in his inference that Protestantism ceased to protest against Rome as it had formerly done, and that the common struggle against National Socialism tended to bring about a united Christian front, for though, in their respective struggles with the state, Catholicism and Protestantism never once ap­pealed for each other’s help, they were nevertheless brought nearer together by the common danger.7

This same trend was to he forcefully brought to the front in March, 1949, when a resolution of the Federal Council of Churches called on Protestant leaders to negotiate with the Vatican on issues of religious liberty and human. Rights.8 This historically unprecedented proposal came as a result of the im­prisonment of Cardinal Mindszenty in Hungary and of Prot­estant churchmen in Bulgaria—a conflict in which totalitarian Communism, it appears, has more recently taken the place of Nazi threats.

However that may be, it is clear that in 1936, German Protestantism, like Catholicism, felt itself threatened, not only by the administrative agencies, but also by the ideological in­fluence of Nazism.

German Church Affairs Before 1933

Germany has never had that degree of separation of church and state which has characterized American life for more than one and a half centuries. Even after the Reformation, German Christianity, Catholic and Protestant, became regional state affairs. The Peace of Augsburg, in 1555, provided for a terri- [P.>152] torial settlement of the religious question in harmony with the Latin formula, Cuius regio, eius religio (He who rules, deter­mines the religion). Under this arrangement it was the local German prince who determined the religion of his principality.

This led later to large-scale emigrations on the part of those who disagreed with the religion of the prince. Thousands of these “rebels” came to the United States,—to Pennsylvania, for instance,—where their descendants may be found in large num­bers.

With certain modifications, the territorial or regional church organization in Germany has continued until the present time. It was reflected especially in the twenty-eight Landeskirchen (territorial churches) into which German Protestantism con­tinued to be divided down to the Nazi accession to power in 1933.

These Landeskirchen could be compared with American churches only if there were a “church of Kansas,” a “church of Oregon,” a “church of Kentucky,” and so on, including all the churches of the forty-eight states of our union. There are also Protestant free churches in Germany, such as the Baptists and the Mormons, but they constitute a minority of all Ger­mans and maintain an independent status. Since the end of World War II these groups have been increasingly influential.

Although the recent development in German church life has been somewhat more democratic, in the early organization of the church Luther arranged for the believing princes to have control over the government of the church. Territorial sov­ereignty of the princes was made to include the exercise of supreme legislative and executive power over the churches of their territories. In practice, however, the princes delegated the power of church government to the minister of public wor­ship and to other appointed consistorial officers.

It must be remembered that, according to Luther’s ideas, the civil ruler was not entitled to govern the church by virtue of his secular office, but because of his position as a Christian. To Luther the prince had duties toward the church but no rights [P.>153] over it.9 The ruler was to acknowledge the sovereignty of the Lord and not to use his political power in order to determine the content and nature of the Christian faith and teaching. Luther’s chief concern, as Paul Douglass points out, was the preaching of the kingdom of God. He was a practical man and solved his problems as they came.10 But the sure result thereof was a close connection between the throne and the altar.11

In this connection it needs to be mentioned further that in the development of German Protestantism several confessional differences arose. There were, first, the Lutherans, who as fol­lowers of Luther formed the Lutheran Church, accepting the Augsburg Confession, Luther’s catechism, the Schmalkald Ar­ticles, and the Formula of Concord. Next came the followers of Zwingli and Calvin, who took their stand on the Heidelberg Catechism. These constituted the Reformed Church. The former difference between these two groups over the Lord’s Supper has lost much of its significance. More important, for the purpose of this study, was their difference over constitu­tional ideas. The Lutherans held to a consistorial form of government within the church, while the Reformed favored the more democratic Presbyterian form.

Furthermore, Calvin’s concept of a theocracy made a church constitution tantamount to an article of faith.12 When, there­fore, the Evangelical Church constitution of July, 1933, made it possible for a Nazi Reich bishop to be placed at the head of the church, the Calvinist Karl Barth found ample justification for refusing collaboration.13

The creedal particularism of German Protestantism took a unique turn when, in 1817, the Evangelical Church of the Prussian Union was formed from a union of the Lutheran and Reformed Churches in Prussia. Thus, in addition to the Lu­theran and Reformed Churches, there was added the United Church. It should be observed, however, that this union was mainly administrative and confessional, and that the confessional independence of the constituent churches was preserved.

[P.>154] Whether the church was Lutheran, Reformed, or United, in all cases there was a close alliance between church and state. The orthodox Protestant clergy, therefore, became conservative supporters of the status quo. Through the ensuing centuries Luther’s church of the Bible gradually tended to become a church of clerics and theologians, much more interested in maintaining doctrinal purity and in holding to its ancient forms than in preaching the gospel to the poor at home and abroad.14

For the most part, German pastors were unfamiliar with the soul-agonizing efforts necessary to win converts and build up new churches. Instead, they found parish lines already care­fully prescribed; and there were few Germans who did not belong to the church and pay the stipulated church tax.

Many of these university-trained pastors, while adept in the mental gymnastics of church dogma, were ill-prepared for prac­tical church work. They were like civil servants, enjoying financial and social security, and officiating at baptisms, mar­riages, and funerals on a kind of professional office-job basis. In speaking of the formality and spiritual lethargy of the German churches, Stewart Herman refers to the hollowness that echoed among the Gothic arches of the great cathedrals and the uninspired singing of the choirless congregations.15

The outcome of World War I jarred the complacency and smugness of established religion within Germany. As a result of the revolution of 1918 the secular princes, who bore the title Summi cpiscopi, fled. Thus ended the traditional leadership of the Protestant church, which had been developed historically since the time of the Reformation. The supreme church coun­cils and the consistories were left without visible leadership.

At this time it appeared as if German Protestantism had come to the end of its existence. The loss of the war, the col­lapse of the kingship, and the exactions of Versailles brought about a national humiliation that was keenly felt by the churches. As has already been pointed out in chapter 3, Jo­hannes Schneider’s Church Annual for 1919 is a veritable “Book of Lamentations.”16

[P.>155] Five weighty words of the Weimar Constitution conveyed an ominous portent for traditional German Protestantism: “There is no state church.”17 Henceforth the church was to be independent. The state would no longer nurture the church, and the church would no longer represent the interests of the state. It was a goal some had sought to achievp for decades. Now it seemed to have been accomplished.

However, the intention of the makers of the Weimar Con­stitution was not fully realized. Through a properly authorized body, the Landeskirchen had made timely representations to the new government asking for recognition of the existing re­gional churches as public corporations. It was contended that the placing of the churches on a private basis with other organizations would not accord with the dignity of the church and would be contrary to a relation which, in the course of four hundred years, had become historically established. The churches requested state protection for their property, continued financial support from the state, the right to order and conduct their own affairs, and freedom to unite into religious bodies as publicly legalized corporations.

These requests received due recognition. The revolution of 1918 was not as complete with respect to the church as its friends had feared and its enemies had hoped.

Since the sovereignty of the princes had now disappeared, the Landeskirchen gave themselves new constitutions, which, in the main, aimed to preserve the historical character of their respective churches.18 Sovereignty, now residing in the church itself, expressed itself in general synods. The church creed and the word of God, however, were still regarded as the real source and norm of church order; and the separate territorial arrangements of the Landeskirchen were continued.

Never before in three hundred years had the task of the church been as heavy—and as promising. The state continued its financial grants to the churches. Religious instruction in the public schools was also provided for, subject, however, to the discretion of teachers and the wishes of parents and guard- [P.>156] ians. Theological faculties at the universities were retained.

Under these new conditions Protestantism experienced a temporary revival and witnessed an increasing participation in church activities on the part of its lay members. However, interest in foreign missions, never very strong in Germany, was weakened still further by the economic and political instability of the times.19

The revolution also tended to rouse the church from its political indifference. Church members began to participate more actively in political elections. Church leaders warned against the one-sidedness of political parties and the danger of bringing political divisions into the church.20 In spite of the fact that the church had obtained a highly privileged position, it was somewhat slow in reconciling itself to the young Repub­lic. The chief obstacle to this reconciliation was the Social Democratic Party, and one of the fiercely disputed issues cen­tered in the opposing points of view with reference to the teaching of religion in the public schools.21

The national catastrophe afforded renewed opportunity for increasingly effective antireligious and atheistic propaganda. The prewar loss of church membership, which had virtually subsided during the war, was now revived. A quarter of a mil­lion left the Protestant church by 1921.22 By 1925 there were 1,383,914, or 2.2 per cent of the total population, who were registered as being without any church affiliation.23

The privilege of leaving the church had been made easier by a law passed in 1918, according to which it was no longer necessary for the one who left the church to make a personal declaration before a judge and continue to pay his church dues for the fiscal year following his withdrawal, as was the require­ment under a much stricter law which had been passed in 1874.24

Unfortunately, then, the temporary revival of godliness, begun in the days of direst adversity, was not followed up. In the midst of economic suffering and political uncertainties, all kinds of racial creeds, myths, and nationalist aspirations clam­ored for recognition. It was during this time that Nazism was [P.>157] born. Its definite program promised alleviation, and it soon found popular support. Race doctrines began to invade the church. When Hitler came to power in January, 1933, the church was ill-prepared to cope successfully with the far-reach-ing demands of National Socialism.

Church Affairs Under the 1933 Constitution of
the German Evangelical Church

The need for a unified national church had been given special emphasis by a widely advertised congress of the Faith Movement of German Christians, held in Berlin, April 3-5, 1933. It was this group in the Evangelical churches which sought to harmonize Christianity with the tenets of National Socialism and make the churches a pillar of the new Reich. They were the partial successors of an earlier group known as the Evangelical National Socialists, who, somewhat in imita­tion of the Catholic Center Party, endeavored to achieve the position of a Protestant political party. In February, 1932, they declared their program to be based on positive Christianity, re­jecting the liberal spirit of Judaic-Marxist internationalism and striving for a union of the petty Evangelical state churches into one strong Evangelical national church. Although at Hitler’s personal intervention the title “Evangelical National Social­ists” was dropped as being too political, the German Christians continued to function as a subsidiary party of National So­cialism.25 Not only did they support the demand for a united, Nazi-dominated Protestant church, but they also advocated a synthesis of National Socialism with Christianity. This pre­cipitated within the Protestant churches the so-called Confessional Church, whose members became the uncompromising opponents of the German Christians.26

Early in the church struggle, however, the Nazi state found strong support in the German Christians. Their program was based on the presupposition that the rise of Hitler was an event in which God revealed Himself. This new revelation must therefore be co-ordinated with the divine revelation in Christ. [P.>158] While many German Christians were fanatical Nazis, and ad­vocated extremist, Rosenberg-tinged programs for the reforma­tion of Christianity,27 there were a large number of earnest church members among them who saw in National Socialism the emergence of a German national spirit which could be used to renovate the church.28

One of the chief exponents of the latter view was Professor Emanuel Hirsch, of Gottingen. In numerous books and articles he asserted the possibility of reconciling Christianity and Na­tional Socialism for the benefit of both. In twelve closely reasoned theses he urged that every age must find its proper relation to political power and that the unity of confession does not necessarily depend upon four-hundred-year-old creeds which have no binding effect upon the present.29 He had little sympathy for Barth and others like him, who sought to rivet the church to a creedal orthodoxy which precluded the acceptance of any new revelation. Professor Hirsch was perhaps the only eminent theologian who embraced the cause of National So­cialism wholeheartedly. He saw in the revival of German nationalism under the leadership of Hitler a manifestation of God’s will. His presence among the German Christians gave added prestige and influence to this group.

Among the leaders of the German Christians who were led into more extreme positions by the early revolutionary fervor of National Socialism were Pastor Hossenfelder,30 for a while Reich leader of the group, and Dr. Krause, a district leader of the German Christians. Both became storm centers of German Protestantism: the former, because of the extremely political strategies he employed in church elections; the latter, because of his sensational speech before a group of twenty thousand peo­ple at the Berlin Sportpalast meeting on November 13, 1933.31

This vast assemblage deserves particular mention here. It was held in imitation of the mass propaganda methods so effectively employed by the Nazis, and involved the German Christians in a crisis which nearly proved fatal to them. In his speech Dr. Krause threw caution to the winds and invoked [P.>159] the spirit of Luther to help in creating not a Lutheran, not a United, not a synodal, not a consistorial or a general-superin­tendent church, but one mighty, new, all-embracing national church. He demanded the elimination of Judaism from the Old Testament, and the purging of the New Testament as well. He asked that a heroic Christ be accepted, and that the racialist principle be made to crown the Lutheran Reformation. He asserted that in religious matters, as in all others, there was but one sovereign law : that of Hitler.32

This speech was too obvious an identification of German Christians with the Nazi Party. Protests arose on all sides. Perhaps one of the most important results was the founding of the Pastors’ Emergency League, headed by Martin Niemoeller, a pastor in Dahlem, Berlin. This league sought to unite all clergymen who stood by the faith of the church and opposed Nazi meddling in the affairs of the church.33 It immediately called on Ludwig Mueller, who in the meantime had won the position of the Reich bishop, to separate himself from the Ger­man Christians, among whom he had come to hold the position of a protector. Henceforth both Dr. Krause and Pastor Hossenfelder ceased to play important roles, while Mueller increas­ingly endeavored to assert his authority as Reich bishop under the newly adopted constitution of the German Evangelical Church.

The work on this constitution had been completed on the basis of a preliminary draft known as the Loccumer Manifest, which had been issued May 20, 1933. On July 11, 1933, the finished constitution was approved by the plenary representa­tives of the German Evangelical Church Federation, which had combined the twenty-eight Landeskirchen in a loose union since 1922.

That the constitution of the national church was drafted and adopted in so short a time was due to the urgent desire of the church leaders for a greater unity, and also to the driving in­sistence of the German Christians and to the activity of Mueller as the confidential church ambassador of Chancellor Hitler. [P.>160] Political enthusiasm and considerations combined to effect a unity which the churches appeared incapable of accomplishing by themselves.

On July 14, the Reich government published a law to regu­late the constitution of the German Evangelical Church. It recognized the church as a corporation of public law and pro­vided for a new church election to be held on July 23, 1933. The constitution of the church was also published at the same time and was incorporated in the laws of the Reich. The law regulat­ing the church constitution was signed by the Reich chancellor and the Reich minister of the interior, whereas the church constitution itself was signed by the leaders of the various Landeskirchen.34

These various provisions indicate the degree to which church interests were commingled with the affairs of the state. They also make clear that German Protestantism was an in­fluential factor within the Reich and that the reorganization of the church involved important questions of policy and adminis­tration.

As has been indicated, this 1933 constitution of the German Evangelical Church had been preceded by a church federation in 1922. The constitution of this federation combined the twenty-eight Landeskirchen in a loose union and worked rea­sonably well while Germany was under the temporary influence of a democracy.35 It lacked the strongly centralized authority called for, however, when in 1933 the government of the Third Reich took control of the nation.

The 1933 constitution of the German Evangelical Church aimed primarily to bring about a closer union of Protestantism than obtained under the constitution of church federation of 1922. The rights and duties of the federation were legally passed over to the German Evangelical Church.

One of the outstanding features of the new constitution was that in it the Reich bishop was accorded, in religious matters, a position somewhat analogous to that which Hitler had begun to assume in political affairs. Although in the general administra- [P.>161] tion of the church the Reich bishop was to be advised by a spiritual council and assisted by a national synod, he was en­dowed with remarkable powers. He was to guarantee a uni­form leadership in the church, set necessary standards for the interpretation of the constitution, and give instructions to the spiritual council. In union with the leading officials of the Landeskirchen he was empowered to issue formal pronouncements and hold conferences. He was to ratify the nominations and dismissals of the German Evangelical Church, issue decla­rations in the name of the church, order exceptional services for special days, and draw up legislation for the church. He was to have his own diocese, and he was appointed to his bish­opric by the national synod„ There was no limit set to the tenure of his office.

While the Landeskirchen were to remain independent in confession and worship, the German Evangelical Church held the right to give them directions for their constitutions. Furthermore, the central authority was to guarantee unity among the churches in the domain of administration and jurisprudence. The cost of centralized machinery was to be paid by the re­gional churches.

Beyond this centralized control, the church retained its tra­ditional character. It was still composed of the twenty-eight Landeskirchen, which were left independent in confession and worship. Although the interaction of political conditions of the Reich and the church was clearly expressed in the constitution by the acknowledgment that God was letting the German peo­ple pass through a new historical era, yet, according to article 1, the inviolable foundation of the church was to continue to be the Scriptures and the Reformation creeds.

The subsequent church struggle was largely over the ques­tion of whether or not this introductory paragraph was to be considered in earnest. Problematical, too, was the question as to how far the autonomy of the Landeskirchen was to be rec­ognized. According to the Reformed Church law, the consti­tution itself belonged to the confession. Thus the episcopal [P.>162] order of the constitution in place of the synodal administration concerned a question of confession.36 Among Lutherans as well, the question was raised as to whether the real position of the church would not be jeopardized by the introduction of a worldly leadership principle into the constitution of the church.37 The answer to any such questions depended on the manner in which the constitution would be administered.38

The constitution attempted a difficult compromise, based on the distinction between centralization of administrative and legal activities on the one hand, and religious belief on the other. It sought to create a centralized administration with power to co-ordinate the federal churches while leaving them religiously free. In this way the possibility was left open for the whole federal structure to become nazified if those imbued with Naziology should win control of the central administra­tion. The election of the first Reich bishop emphasized this danger.

As has been mentioned, the Reich law, passed to regulate the constitution of the German Evangelical Church, called for a new, nation-wide church election to be held on July 23, 1933, for the purpose of choosing parish councils, which would, in their turn, elect the national synod. There were two distinct parties: the Gospel and Church group, who wished to defend the freedom of the gospel and traditional Christian faith; and the German Christians, who favored the assimilation of the church with the Nazi movement. The former group favored Friedrich von Bodelschwingh as Reich bishop; the latter, Mueller. The issues were fairly clear in the persons of these two candidates one, as head of the famous Bethel Institute at Bielefeld, was a pastor, teacher, and social worker, whose sole connection was with the church, and who was out of both state and church politics the other, an army chaplain, a National Socialist, a German Christian, and a confidant of Hitler.

In this campaign for the electors of the national synod which would choose the Reich bishop, the German Christians adopted the electoral methods which had brought the Nazis so [P.>163] much success in the political area. Even Hitler and the deputy leader of the party, Rudolf Hess, played an important part in ensuring the success of the German Christians at the poll. By an order issued on July 20, Hess made it the duty of everyone who adhered to the Nazi point of view to vote in the church election. Thousands of German Christians, who for years had taken no active part in church affairs, enrolled in order to swell the German Christian votes.39 On the eve of the poll the chan­cellor himself broadcast a message in behalf of the German Christians who, he said, represented that portion of the Evan­gelical community who had set foot on the sure ground of the National Socialist state.40 The results were a foregone con­clusion. The German Christians captured from 51 to 100 per cent of the total number of seats in the Evangelical parish councils, with the exception of the Bavarian and Westphalian synods. In some places only German Christians offered them­selves as candidates. Consequently, an overwhelming majority of the same party were in the national synod, where Mueller was unanimously elected Reich bishop. Thus a National So­cialist chaplain had been elected to lead in the administration of the new constitution which German Protestantism had given itself in “a new historical era.”

Mueller appointed Pastor Hossenfelder, who had become bishop of Brandenburg and was the leader of the German Christians, chairman of his spiritual council. Many similar appointments were made to the office of bishop in the Landes-kirchen. It became apparent that the German Christians were being favored to the disadvantage of the Gospel and Church group. Meanwhile this latter group had become the Pastors’ Emergency League, which has already been referred to as com­posed of those who intended to stand by the traditional faith of the church and oppose the mixing of politics in the affairs of the church. From the very beginning the new Reich bishop was confronted by this opposition group, who felt that by acts of political pressure and violence the church had been betrayed into the hands of a political movement.

[P.>164] There can be little doubt that there existed also a deeply rooted fundamental objection to the institution of the episco­pacy, as such, in the minds of some Lutherans and of almost all members of the Reformed Church. The wider use of the title Bischof tended to awaken ancient prejudices against arbitrary rule and hindered the new ecclesiastical administration in se­curing the full co-operation of both the pastors and church members.

Fundamentally the church of Luther is a church of laymen and is deeply rooted in the teaching of the priesthood of every believer. The pastor is not a ruler, but a minister who is certi­fied by the gospel. This, concept of church leadership did not exclude bishops as such, but it did exclude a bishop appointed for life, one that was neither appointed by the congregation nor could be recalled by it. The Reformed were even more opposed to a spiritual monarchy. They wholly rejected bishops, in both name and office. The pope alone in Christendom had powers comparable to those which the constitution made possible for the Reich bishop. To many this arrangement seemed a be­trayal of the Reformation.

There also existed a less open but more fundamental con­flict between the Christian world view with its emphasis on love and human brotherhood, and the Nazi Weltanschauung with its doctrine of blood, soil, and martial heroism. It was this less definite but more basic issue between Christian theology and political mythology which figured, not only in the struggle over the choice of a Reiich bishop, but also in other relations between the church and the Reich.

In an endeavor to eliminate the Jews from positions of in­fluence, a civil service law was passed by the Reich government on April 7, 1933, which contained for the first time the notorious article 3, or the Aryan paragraph. It stipulated that all officials who were not of Aryan descent were to be retired. An exception was made to those who had been in service since August 1, 1914, and to those who had fought in World War I at the front.41 This law was augmented by still another passed June 30, 1933, which [P.>165] forbade any official from marrying a Jewess, and excluded from state office all those married to Jewesses.42

No such discriminatory measures against the Jews had suc­ceeded in finding a place in the constitution of the German Evangelical Church. However, on September 5, 1933, even be­fore Mueller had actually been chosen as Reich bishop, the Prussian Synod, representing more than half the Protestants of Germany and at the time under the control of the German Christians, gave Mueller the entirely new office of bishop of Prussia, and also adopted the Aryan paragraph into the sphere of the church. It declared that a non-Aryan could not act as pastor or official of the general church administration.

The Pastors’ Emergency League, to the number of two thousand, presented a protest against this action, stating that the application of the Aryan paragraph to the life of the church was in violation of the Holy Scriptures and contrary to the confessions of the Reformation. They were fortified in their contention by a very important expression of opinion that had come from academic circles. On September 20, 1933, the theo­logical faculty of Marburg declared that in their opinion the new law passed by the Prussian synod was unchristian. They insisted that only faith and baptism were decisive for incor­poration into the church, and that Jews and Gentiles had equal rights as members and as ministers. They pointed out that these requirements had found no place in the concordat with the Vatican.43

Another statement by the faculty of Erlangen was less defi­nite and did not give a unanimous verdict. This group declared that although all Christians were common children of God, biological and social distinctions still had to be reckoned with. They held that the church should recognize the basic right of the state to regulate such questions.44

For fifty years before the advent of Hitler the Jews had constituted approximately 1 per cent of the total population of Germany, a figure ranging from 500,000 to 600,000.45 During most of that period, Protestant missionary circles had sup- [P.>166] ported a program of evangelization among the Jews, not en­tirely without results. In the year 1920, for instance, 452 Jews joined the Evangelical Church; in 1925, 226; in 1930, 212; and in 1933, 241.46

Thus through the years numerous Jews had abandoned Judaism and espoused Christianity. Others had intermarried with German Protestants. These persons and their descend­ants, in the main, regarded themselves as Christians. But according to the Aryan paragraph, matters of faith had to yield to the considerations of an exclusive racialism.

No definite figures appear to be available which would indi­cate the number of Jews actually affected by the application of the Aryan paragraph in the church. Perhaps there were not more than two out of a thousand active pastors who were of Jewish descent.47 But the Aryan paragraph was not limited to pastors. It applied to all officials of the general church ad­ministration. The members of the Pastors’ Emergency League, however, did not view this problem in the light of mere math­ematical considerations. They regarded it as a question of fundamental belief.

On September 27, 1933, the national synod of the Evangeli­cal Church for the whole Reich met at Wittenberg and con­firmed the election of Mueller as Reich bishop.

It was at Wittenberg that, 416 years earlier, Luther had written his ninety-five theses and burned a papal bull in the public square. What a contrast between the robust stature of Martin Luther and the Nazified Mueller! What a change takes place in a people when they reject the love of the truth and follow after lying wonders! “For this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.”48

Although on this occasion there were no decisions made regarding the Aryan paragraph, the laws passed were in con­formity with the laws of the new Nazi state, and the declared policy was in harmony with the pro-Nazi ideas of the German Christians.

Again the pastors’ Emergency League made a spirited pro- [P.>167] test against the introduction of force into the government of the church and the application of the Aryan paragraph in its life. The league declared that the pressure to which the ministry was subjected was so great that the servants of the gospel were in danger of breaking the command that they should obey God rather than man.49

The Formation of the Confessional Church and
the Free Synod Movement

When Dr. Krause delivered his memorable speech in the Sportpalast, November 13, 1933, demanding that the Old Testa­ment be abandoned, he did not realize the extent to which his message would affect his listeners. Its repercussions forced Mueller to admit publicly that such opinions and demands were tantamount to denying the Bible as the church’s sole and im­movable foundation. Dr. Krause was dismissed from his ec­clesiastical office, and Pastor Hossenfelder was forced to resign from the spiritual council. Left without the further patronage of the Reich bishop, the more radical German Christians now began to identify themselves with the new German pagan movement of the Third Confession, which has already been dis­cussed in chapter 5. As a consequence, Mueller found himself virtually isolated, without the support of either the radical or the conservative elements of German Protestantism. The Pas­tors’ Emergency League became more aggressive. By the end of the year its numbers had increased to more than seven thousand.

The Reich bishop took a new step. On December 19, 1933, he placed the whole Evangelical Youth Movement, with more than seven hundred thousand members, under the authority of Baldur von Schirach, the leader of the Hitler Youth. The in­surgent pastors felt that the time had now come to insist that Mueller either resign or appoint men to his spiritual council who could be trusted to see to it that the faith and the inde­pendence of the church were upheld. Still enjoying the support of Hitler, the Reich bishop proceeded to place many of the [P.>168] protesting pastors in retirement. In many instances these pas­tors, with the support of their congregations, continued to preach. Martin Niemoeller was one of these.50

   On January 4, 1934, the Reich bishop issued the so-called “muzzling order,” which forbade pastors to refer to the church controversy in their sermons, or to publish books or pamphlets on the subject, under penalty of suspension or loss of their in­come. The Pastors’ Emergency League responded to this order by reading it in their pulpits, together with a résumé of the controversy to date. The Reich bishop was accused of using violence and illegal methods in carrying on church politics. Pagan trends in the church were exposed. The pastors declared that their relation to the Reich bishop was expressed in the words: “We ought to obey God rather than men.”51

Thus Mueller’s attempts to integrate the various Landes-kirchen into the German Evangelical Church only aroused further opposition. On April 12, 1934, he took into his spiritual council, as legal member and head of the church chancery, Dr. Jaeger, who had earlier created considerable opposition in the Prussian church as state commissioner in 1933. Under him the Gestapo and local Nazi political officers were employed to en­force Mueller’s measures; but only Prussia and the smaller churches co-operated. The churches of Hanover, Wurttemberg, and Bavaria, respectively under the leadership of Bishops Marahrens, Wurm, and Meiser, refused to yield, and they were supported in their stand by a majority of their pastors. When Bishops Wurm and Meiser were later placed under house ar­rest, the opposition also spread to the laity. Ultimately the south German church leaders were successful in preventing the incorporation of their churches into the Reich church.

It must not be overlooked that at this time it took con­siderable courage to oppose this Nazi-backed church program. These were the days when Hitler resorted to violence to consoli­date his gains and to maintain undisputed authority within the Nazi Party. The political purge of June 30, 1934, included men in high places. Among them were Ernst Roehm, head of Hit- [P.>169] lers’ storm troopers and once one of Hitler’s closest friends and collaborators; Gregor Strasser, another former confidant of Hitler and once the most powerful leader in the party next to Hitler; Dr. Erich Klausener, leader of Catholic Action; Kurt von Schleicher, former chancellor of Germany ; and many others—all told, more than sixty victims.

These men became guilty of unpardonable disloyalty when they tried to engineer a second revolution,—”a night of long knives,” they called it,—directed against Hitler’s totalitarian system. As Hitler saw it, his ruthlessness was an act of mercy forced upon him to prevent the collapse of his one-party Reich, in which he had publicly recognized the two Christian confes­sions as the weightiest factors for the maintenance of German nationalism.52

On August 9, 1934, one week after the death of Hindenburg, the Reich bishop summoned a second national synod, packed with pro-Nazi delegates. With evident disregard for the church constitution of July, 1933, a series of laws was passed placing the Landeskirchen under the immediate supervision of the Reich bishop.53

The churches of the Old Prussian Union had already been absorbed in the Reich church when in March, 1934, Mueller transferred all his powers as bishop of the Old Prussian Union to himself as Reich bishop.54 The second national synod pre­scribed a form of oath for all pastors and church officials, re­quiring loyalty to the Fuehrer of the German people and the state, and acceptance of the orders of the German Evangelical Church.55

This was an attempt to brand the opposition against the church administration as politically subversive. The insurgent pastors hastened to explain that their refusal to accept the or­ders of the church primate was based, not on political grounds, but solely on religious reasons, and that obedience to his church government meant disobedience to the constitution and the law of the church itself.56 The hour was opportune for the emergence of a competing church authority ; but in view of the [P.>170] aftermath of the political purge of June 30, the death of Hinden­burg, and the pending Saar plebiscite, the Nazi magicians had a special interest in composing religious differences and reduc­ing political tensions in the country. After all, Protestantism was a power to reckon with, and Hitler saw the need of winning the loyalty of religiously minded Germans so that they would be an asset to the Reich.

From this time on, the position of Mueller as Reich bishop became increasingly uncertain. The leaders of the great non-Prussian churches declined to attend his inaugural service held September 23, 1934. On October 26, Jaeger resigned. Two days later a civil court declared all acts of the Reich bishop in Ba­varia illegal.57 On October 30, Hitler received the Southern German bishops and told them that he would take no further interest in the dispute and would leave the church to deal with its own problems. This made the Reich bishop’s attempts to co-ordinate the regional churches appear more hopeless than ever. Both friends and foes addressed written appeals to the church primate urging him to resign.58

Mueller answered these demands in an open letter of refusal. He maintained that it had been his God-given duty to issue regulatory decrees in order to end church political dis­putes, which had endangered both the church and the gospel.59 However, such explanations did little to restore the church primate’s prestige. Nominally the head of the whole church, he was by now in actual command of little more than his office staff.

Meanwhile the opposition had organized a provisional Con­fessional Church administration, which claimed to be the lawful government under the constitution of the German Evangelical Church. It asked to be recognized by the regional churches and invited their co-operation in restoring the foundation prin­ciples of the Holy Scriptures and in acknowledging the creeds of the Reformation.60

While the Pastors’ Emergency League, under the leadership of Niemoeller, did not succeed in bringing about a settlement [P.>171] of the church question, it did succeed, at least temporarily, in unifying the opposition to Mueller’s church regime and in pre­paring the way for the so-called Free Synod Movement. In various parts of Germany delegates to these synods were elected from among those clergy and laity who were opposed to the government of the church in the form in which it was then conducted. They stood for the traditional faith of the church, were opposed to the Aryan clause in the church regulations, and desired new elections for the formation of the governing bodies of the church as laid down under the new constitution. The Free Synod Movement came to take the place of the Pas­tors’ Emergency League.61

The opposition pastors, in a meeting at Ulm, April 22, 1934, issued a proclamation before the whole of Christendom, claiming to be the constitutional Evangelical Church of Germany. The gathering represented the churches of Wurttemberg, Bavaria, and the free synods in the Rhineland, in Westphalia, and in Brandenburg, as well as Confessional Christians in other parts of Germany. The proclamation insisted that the influence of the German Christians had robbed the Reich church govern­ment of its spiritual significance, and that, therefore, the church government ceased to have legal justification for continuing to control church affairs.62

The first Confessional synod of the entire Evangelical Church in Germany was held in Barmen, May 29-31, 1934. It proceeded to enact measures that had been foreshadowed at Ulm. The attitude of mere opposition was abandoned, and by a formal resolution it was declared that this Confessional synod represented the lawful German Evangelical Church. Attempts to abolish the differences between Lutheran, Reformed, and United confessions, however, were not successful. Instead, it was decided to preserve these distinctions within the framework of the Confessional Church, in accordance with the constitution of July, 1933. Condemning the attempts to unify the German Evangelical Church by means of false doctrine, the use of force, and insincere practices, it was proclaimed that the unity of the [P.>172] Evangelical churches in Germany could only come into being from faith in the word of God and through the work of the Holy Spirit. The adoption of the Fuehrer principle in church organi­zation was rejected, and the presbyterian form of church gov­ernment was endorsed. Barth was especially influential in pointing out that the episcopal method of church administra­tion and the introduction of a hierarchy were contrary to Ref­ormation principles. The confession of faith that was worked out by this synod became the foundation document of the whole Confessional movement. Not for three hundred years had Lutheran and Calvinist collaborated to this degree in brushing aside ancient differences and agreeing to fundamental beliefs, which have their roots in the Reformation.63

In answer to the errors of the German Christians and the Reich church government, six theological or doctrinal theses were formulated. These six theses, with counterpropositions against heresy, may be summarized as follows:

  1. Jesus Christ, as He is revealed in Holy Writ, is the only Word of God. The heresy is refuted that the church must recognize other events, powers, figures, and truths as the revelation of God.
  2. God, through Jesus Christ, claims our whole life. There are no spheres in life in which we belong to other masters.
  3. The Christian church belongs solely to Christ. It cannot surren­der its mission and organization to prevailing philosophical and political convictions.
  4. The offices of the church do not give one man dominion over another. They exist for the exercise of the administration entrusted to the whole community. The church cannot allow itself to be given lead­ers endowed with ruling powers.
  1. According to the gospel, the state is divinely endowed with the task of looking after law and order. The state cannot become the single and total regulator of the whole of human life, thus fulfilling also the function of the church. Neither should the church assume state func­tions and dignities and so become an organ of the state.
  2. The mission of the church consists in preaching in Christ’s stead the message of the mercy of God. It cannot, therefore, place the word and works of the Lord at the service of any arbitrary wishes, aims, and pleas.64

[P.>173] Thus the German Christians were declared heretics, and the door to compromise was closed. On the other hand, this Barmen declaration became the general expression of that faith which all Confessionals shared and by which they were united. It was a religious Magna Charta, so to speak, in the struggle between Protestantism and Nazism.

The second Confessional synod was held at Dahlem on Oc­tober 20, 1934. It had been preceded by a Confessional Church manifesto, which was issued August 12, charging the Reich church administration with ignoring elementary principles of law and justice, and the abandonment of the principles of the Reformation. The manifesto was read in all the churches, save in Bavaria and Wurttemberg, where the police intervened. Vio­lent measures against offending pastors had been instituted in different localities.65

This second Confessional synod announced that in view of the incompetency of the Reich church government and of the basis of ecclesiastical emergency law, the Confessionals had formed a new organ for the government of the church, namely, the Council of Brethren, with an executive committee to con­duct the affairs of the Confessional Church, which was again proclaimed as the only true German Evangelical Church. The announcement urged all parishes to reject instructions from the Reich church government. Signed by all the delegates present, the declaration was forwarded to the Reich government with the request that recognition be made of the fact that in matters of doctrine and church organization the church alone was quali­fied to judge, without prejudice to the state’s right of super­vision.66 For the time being, the state authorities silently tolerated this new organization without, however, giving it formal recognition.

The continued resistance of the Confessional Church to the efforts of the central church administration to co-ordinate it, together with its opposition to Naziology, helped to consolidate Confessional strength. But it also eventually led to renewed opposition from officials of the Reich government. The minister [P.>174] of the interior, Dr. Frick, reissued his orders prohibiting any public discussion of the religious question. The minister of education, Dr. Rust, ordered the professors of theology in the universities not to participate in the church dispute. On De­cember 21, 1934, Barth was dismissed from the chair of theology at Bonn for refusing to take, without reservations, the oath of allegiance to the Fuehrer. The Reich bishop had issued a prohibition against the recognition of the provisional govern­ment of the Confessional Church.67 Undaunted, on February 27, 1935, the Confessional group issued a manifesto against anti-Semitic myths and the new blood-and-soil religions. When Confessional pastors read this pronouncement from their pul­pits, upwards of four hundred of them were arrested. The civil authorities had interpreted the manifesto as an attack upon Nazi principles.68

The third Confessional synod was held at Augsburg, June 4-6, 1935. It dealt mainly with practical issues. The question of church discipline was handed over to the Council of Breth­ren. An appeal was made to theological teachers and students for loyalty to the principles of the Confessional Church. A strong petition was also addressed to the Reich government asking for just and fair treatment.69

Police action against the pastors continued. A new Reich decree, June 26, 1935, removed the adjudication in church dis­putes from the civil courts, which had, almost without excep­tion, given judgment for the Confessional Church, to a new legal bureau set up by the minister of the interior. Against this tribunal no appeal was to be allowed.70 Subsequently, by direct action of Hitler, Kerrl was made Reich minister of church affairs. Thus the church was placed under the direct jurisdiction of the state to a degree hitherto unknown. The policies employed by Kerrl and the results of his supervision of church affairs will be discussed later under a separate heading.

The fourth national assembly of the Confessional synod was held at Oeynhausen, February 17-22, 1936. In a care- [P.>175] fully worded resolution it was reasserted that the Confessional Church was the legal church because it was founded on the creed. A new Council of Brethren and a new provisional church government were formed in which the synodal, as opposed to the episcopal, principle of church government was definitely recognized.71 The majority of these new Confessional leaders refused to co-operate with Kerrl in his attempts to bring about a united German church. They believed that the plan of co­operation with the new Reich minister involved not only the state’s right to order the church, but also the surrender of the church to a state which approved unchristian principles and practices. In May, 1936, they addressed the personal memo­randum to Hitler, referred to at the beginning of this chapter, denouncing National Socialist doctrines and policies and asking whether the dechristianization of the German people was to become the official policy of the Reich government. This re­mains as one of the most courageous and most fundamental of all the statements of religious resistance to the coordinating policies of the Third Reich.

Dissensions in the Ranks of Protestantism

From the foregoing discussion it is clear that the attempt to create a united German Evangelical Church under the con­stitution of 1933 was not realized. The methods adopted by the Reich bishop ultimately destroyed the very unity which the church itself desired.72

The struggle of the Confessional Church with the Reich bishop resulted in the so-called intact territorial churches and the devastated church areas. The intact churches included those territories in which the German Christians did not suc­ceed in seizing permanent possession of the church government. Instead, the church leadership continued under its former con­stitutional and administrative arrangement. Among the intact territorial churches were notably the Lutheran churches of Ba­varia, Wurttemberg, and Hanover, and the Reformed churches of Hanover and Lippe.

[P.>176] The rest of the churches came to be designated as the devas­tated church areas. In these regions there were two church governments, each of which laid claim to being the sole legally constituted authority. There was no clear dividing line, how­ever, between the government of the Council of Brethren of the Confessional Church and that of the German Christians. Each gained the adherence of some of the congregations. The confusion was greatest whenever the same parish had several clergy who were adherents of different church governments. The struggle came to assume the character of a civil war.73

Besides these opposing groups there were those who re­mained neutral. These were subjected to influences in two directions. On the one hand they were apprehensive of the influences that put Germanism before the gospel, and were therefore inclined to cling firmly to the confessions of the church as a protection of Biblical faith. On the other hand they believed in a strong united church closely identified with the secular life of the country.

Each of the competing church governments, in turn, was divided by creedal and ideological differences. Among the Con­fessionals, for illustration, were the extremists of faith headed by Barth, who would have nothing to do with the new church government.74 But there was also a more moderate group headed by Marahrens, who manifested a willingness to co­operate. There persisted a strong tendency on the part of German Lutherans to decline joint action with the Reformed Church because of ancient differences with respect to church policy and theology. Among the German Christians, too, were to be found the most diversified theological and ideological leanings, ranging from a form of neopaganism which held itself aloof from Christian doctrine and belief, to a more nearly cor­rect Christian point of view which accepted both the Old and the New Testament.75

These confused conditions brought the church face to face with baffling problems pertaining to questions of legality, ad­ministration, church collections, education, proclamations from [P.>177] the pulpit, and oaths. Owing to the disagreements among the groups it became practically impossible for the churches them­selves to solve these problems satisfactorily. What is more, a unified church program under the church constitution had be­come impossible. Such chaotic conditions not only jeopardized the unity of the church, but endangered Hitler’s folkic com­munity as well. Hence the state deemed it necessary to enact special measures for the regulation of church affairs.76

On June 26, 1935, the Reich cabinet issued a law on the final adjudication of legal matters affecting the Evangelical Church.77 The minister of the interior, to whose office Hitler had meanwhile transferred the task of supervising the church conflict, was hereby ordered to withdraw suits of the Evangeli­cal churches from the ordinary courts and to have them re­viewed by the Legal Bureau to be set up by the minister of the interior. The establishment of this new tribunal revealed the confusion in the Evangelical Church administration, where, as a result of the stanch resistance of the opposing Confessionals, there had been, in effect, two competing church governments.78 Many of the suspended pastors and church officials had sued for damages in the German courts and had often won their cases, a fact which embarrassed the Nazi authorities.

The Legal Bureau was to decide whether the measures taken by the German Evangelical Church or the territorial Evangeli­cal churches since May 1, 1933, were legal or illegal. Against the decision of this tribunal no appeal was to be allowed.

The support which the regular courts had frequently given to the protests of the Confessionals was to be denied them. It was the first definitive step of the state to bring the distraught church under its control, and subject it to Nazi decisions. Its rights of self-administration and of protection in the civil courts as a corporation of public law ceased to exist.

The leadership of the Confessional Church issued a protest against this measure. It denied that the state had any right to influence spiritual matters and contended that church affairs had virtually been taken out of church hands and given over to [P.>178] the state. This was held contrary to article 137 of the Weimar Constitution, which gave the church the right to direct its own affairs. It was held to be contrary to Hitler’s promise that the rights of the church would not be infringed uport.79 The Nazis, however, justified this new arrangement on the ground that church conditions generally had become impossible, and that according to Evangelical ecclesiastical law the state was called upon to protect the church in times of emergency.80

In its decisions the Legal Bureau was not to be strictly bound by church regulations or church law precedents, for, according to Nazi concepts, formal justice did not need to be recognized when its application would have absurd conse­quences.81

An edict of July 16, 1935, announced the appointment of Kerrl as both Reich and Prussian minister of church affairs, offices which had hitherto been administered by Frick, the minister of the interior for the Reich, and by Rust, the minister of education for Prussia.82 Kerrl, the first holder of this im­portant and difficult office of Reich minister of church affairs, had been a former Prussian minister of justice, a vice-president of the Reichstag, a high-ranking Storm Troop leader, a firm believer in the “positive Christianity” of National Socialism, and a strong opponent of Confessional “irregularities.”

One of Kerrl’s first acts as Reich minister of church affairs was to issue an order on July 27, 1935, in which the Legal Bureau was transferred from the Ministry of the Interior to his own jurisdiction, with Kerrl himself designated as president of this special court.83

On September 24, 1935, the organization of the Ministry of Church Affairs was developed still further by the passing of a measure known as the “Law for the Safeguarding of the Ger­man Evangelical Church.”84 It was signed by both Hitler and Kerrl, and it subsequently served as a basis for far-reaching legal control in Evangelical Church affairs.

The introduction to this law stated that in accordance with the will of the constituents of the Evangelical Church, the [P.>179] unification of the separate state churches into one German Evangelical Church had been accomplished and secured by a constitution. The Reich government was forced to observe with great concern that later, through the conflict of church groups among each other and against each other, a condition was eventually brought about by which the unity of the church was lost, the freedom of belief and conscience of the individual impaired, the spirit of the community harmed, and the very existence of the Evangelical Church jeopardized and exposed to the gravest dangers. The government felt under obligation in its capacity as trustee, conscious of the fact that the task could not be delegated to any of the warring factions, to enact a law for safeguarding the German Evangelical Church in order to enable the church to regulate its own internal questions of faith and creed in complete freedom and peace.

The text stated further that it was the earnest desire of the Reich government to entrust the management of church affairs to the church itself as soon as it functioned in an orderly fashion. The Reich minister of church affairs was authorized to issue ordinances with binding legal force which were to have the effect of restoring orderly conditions in the German Evan­gelical Church and the regional Evangelical churches. The ordinances were to be published in Hitler’s official law gazette.

Between October 3, 1935, and December 10, 1937, Kerrl issued seventeen supplementary executive decrees, all of which were based on this law for safeguarding the German Evangeli­cal Church. These decrees dealt with varied church problems as they arose and concerned such matters as administration, territorial reorganization, finance, ordination of ministerial can­didates, proclamations from the pulpit, and church elections.

The law of September 24, 1935, put into the hands of a state official greater power over the German Evangelical Church than had ever been exercised before in its history. To begin with, Kerrl did not use his extensive powers directly. He placed the responsibility of restoring orderly conditions within the church upon appointed churchmen.

[P.>180] This he accomplished by issuing an executive decree, Octo­ber 3, 1935.86 This first decree, based on the law of September 24, provided for the appointment, by himself, of a Reich church committee consisting of churchmen, whose duties were to be honorary. This committee was to direct and represent the Ger­man Evangelical Church, issue decrees, regulate internal church affairs, and lay down fundamental principles for church admin­istration. With the approval of the Reich minister of church affairs, the committee was to appoint and to dismiss the officials of the German Evangelical Church. After the example of Prussia, a finance department was to be attached to the Ger­man Evangelical Church chancellery.

This decree also provided for the appointment, by Kerrl, of a territorial church committee and of provincial committees for the Old Prussian Union Church. The Old Prussian Union was the largest of the twenty-eight Landeskircken and the one in which differences of opinion were the most conspicuously marked.

All these measures, it was explained, were to be in force until September 30, 1937, only. It was thus intended to empha­size that they were merely temporary arrangements for the restoration of order within the church.

In order to allow the Reich church committee free scope for their activities, all contrary regulations were repealed for this interim period. This meant that the functions of the Reich bishop, the spiritual council, and the national synod, as provided for in the constitution of the German Evangelical Church, were in abeyance, and were to be carried out during the interim period by the Reich church committee. It was understood, however, that the committee was to be guided by the church constitution in all matters, including the relation­ship of the Reich church to the territorial churches.

In subsequent decrees similar arrangements for committee control were made for other territorial churches, which also affected certain “intact” territorial churches.” The manifest purpose was the gradual establishment of a uniform adminis- [P.>181]  trative scheme for all the Landeskirchen. Under the direction of the Reich church committee, the committees of the regional and provincial churches were to establish subsidiary responsi­ble administrative bodies for the church districts and local congregations.

While this new plan held out promises for better church-state relations and a greater degree of intrachurch harmony, it actually turned out to be something of an ignis fatuus—and not a burning bush, so needful in the leadership of God’s people in all ages.

The chairman of the Reich church committee was Dr. Zoellner, formerly the general superintendent of Westphalia, a strong Lutheran and a friend of the Confessional synod. Most of the other seven members of the committee were also opponents of Mueller and of the German Christians.

On October 7, 1935, Zoellner’s committee issued a some­what paradoxical appeal to the German people, affirming the national revival brought about by National Socialism on the basis of race, blood, and soil, and at the same time proclaiming Christ as the Messiah and Saviour of all nations and races, and His gospel as the inviolable foundation of the German Evan­gelical Church.87

Apparently the committee was trying to be all things to all men. The appeal stated further that in harmony with the law of September 24, 1935, for. the safeguarding of the German Evangelical Church, and the first executive decree for the ad­ministration of the law, issued October 3, 1935, the committee had been delegated to act as trustees for a limited period to settle church disputes and prepare the way for a united, self-governing church.87

The appeal had a mixed reception in Germany. Since the members of the committee had been chosen, not from party men, but from clergy who were highly respected, it was felt by some that the attempt should be accepted as sincere and hon­est. Others were more cautious, since, on several occasions be­fore, there had been movements for conciliation which generally [P.>182] ended in violence. It was argued that as in the autumn of 1934 the Reich had had an interest in reducing political tension in the country, in view of the purge of June 30, the death of Hin­denburg, and the Saar plebiscite, so now the real reason for this new movement was to produce an appearance of peace before the Olympic games, which were to be held in Berlin in 1936. The Confessionals, in the main, refused to have anything to do with the committee, rejecting the state control thus implied and maintaining that the government had no right to appoint such a body.”

Several decrees of the Reich church committee assisted the cause of pacification. Most of them were issued between Oc­tober, 1935, and the spring of 1936, and dealt with the use of church premises, the law concerning church officials, the forma­tion of advisory chambers of the German Evangelical Church, and disciplinary law and finance.89

The question that had become acute in a number of con­gregations as to whether a church building was to be at the disposal of the clergy of a church group that was not in the majority, was answered in the affirmative. Every service, how­ever, was to be for the whole parish. In case of necessity the clergy of different groups were to perform their office by turns in the same church.

The decree concerning church officials was based on the Reich law concerning civil service, but contained neither the Aryan paragraph nor the regulation that the church officials must support the National Socialist state. The Reich minister of church affairs confirmed this law by his twelfth adminis­trative decree, October 14, 1936, and also provided for increased supervision by the Reich over the finances of the German Evan­gelical Church.90 Thus, for instance, the church could not, without his approval, make loans, fix and distribute taxes, or acquire real estate of a value exceeding five thousand reichs-marks.

The disciplinary decree of the Reich church committee cov­ered both church officials and the clergy. The lowest court was [P.>183] the disciplinary chamber of the German Evangelical Church, unless the disciplinary authorities of the territorial churches were competent to act. In both cases appeal could be made to the disciplinary court of the German Evangelical Church.

The committee plan for governing the church did not pro­duce accord between the German Christians and the Confes­sionals. Where German Christians were in positions of author­ity, as in Lübeck and Thuringia, they refused to surrender or to modify any of the power acquired during the Reich bishop’s regime, now generally recognized as illegal. Zoellner’s com­mittee had success only with the larger “intact” Lutheran churches of Hanover, Bavaria, and Wurttemberg, which had successfully resisted the incorporation into the Reich church under Mueller.

These churches discontinued their alliance with the pro­visional church government of the Confessionals, which refused to recognize the Reich church committee. Thus the Confes­sional Church was further weakened by the division between moderates and irreconcilables, between those who favored and those who opposed some co-operation with Zoellner’s com­mittee. Some outstanding leaders of the Confessionals, like Niemoeller and Dibelius, had consistently refused to recognize state-approved ecclesiastical authorities of any kind whatso­ever. They were the irreconcilables.91

The state countered such opposition by interfering with the activities of the Confessionals. On October 28, 1935, the Propaganda Ministry imposed a censorship on all church peri­odicals before publication. During the first week in November the Gestapo closed two new independent theological seminaries which had been organized by the Confessional synods. In a speech to theological students on November 13, Kerrl said that he would denounce as liars and hypocrites all who declared that National Socialism threatened faith. “Anyone who asserts that National Socialism is a danger to Christianity,” he declared, “is guilty of treachery to the Fuehrer.”92

On November 20 a proclamation by the Council of Brethren [P.>184] was read in all Confessional churches, declaring that a new re­ligion was drawing men away from Christianity and that the true teaching of God’s word had been taken away from the uni­versities. It exhorted the congregations not to listen to their own fears, but to see to it that God’s word won the victory.93

On December 2, 1935, the Reich minister of church affairs issued his fifth executive order on the basis of the law for the safeguarding of the German Evangelical Church.94 It prohib­ited “unofficial” church unions or groups from exercising exec­utive or administrative functions and forbade them to appoint pastors and other spiritual officeholders, to examine and ordain theological candidates, to make parish inspections, to issue in­structions for proclamations from the pulpit, to levy and ad­minister church taxes and other moneys, or to issue instructions for collections in connection with parish gatherings and the summoning of synods. Groups or organizations which continued to exercise these functions were to be dissolved. The freedom of preaching in the church and the promotion of re­ligious interests in meetings and groups was declared to remain unaffected.

On December 20 Kerrl issued still another order, supple­menting his fifth executive decree of December 2.95 This order specifically forbade the provisional church government and the Council of Brethren to exercise authoritative functions in designated areas of the Evangelical Church of the Old Prussian Union, since committees had been appointed by the Reich min­ister of church affairs to restore order in those regions.

These measures, had they been enforced, would have sounded the death knell of the opposition. They were met by open defiance on the part of many of the Confessional groups. Niemoeller declared publicly that he would refuse obedience to the Ministry of Church Affairs, and led out in the ordination of five theological candidates in the presence of twenty minis­ters, thus openly defying Kerrl’s decrees. On Sunday, January 12, 1936, a proclamation issued by the Council of Brethren of the Old Prussian Union was read in all their churches, rejecting [P.>185] the committees appointed by the state and insisting on the right of the opposition to continue its exercise of authority in the church.96

Kerrl’s committees continued their policy of attempting conciliation. Thy were not entirely without success. The in­fluence of Bishop Marahrens, who promised to co-operate, per­suaded other sincere Confessional Church members to feel that Kerrl’s policy had certain merits. After all, at the head of the new Reich church committee was no Mueller but a trusted churchman, a true minister of the word of God, even if state-appointed. The more moderately minded church members were not inclined to cling obstinately to the tenets of Barmen and Dahlem as if these were the gospel of Christ, especially if by so doing the work of restoring peace within the church was hindered.97

The irreconcilables were quick to point to the drastic or­dinances which had accompanied this policy of conciliation. While the committees were trying to persuade men to come in, Kerrl was trying to force them by an authoritarian control more despotic than anything the Reich bishop had attempted. The whole program was interpreted as a plan to coerce the Confessionals in the interests of the German Christians, who by this time had become a minority within the church.

Early in 1936 Niemoeller issued a pamphlet entitled, Die Staatskirche ist dal (The State Church Is Here I) He main­tained that the state church, as a tool of political power, had arrived in Germany when the new Ministry of Church Affairs took control and began to appoint provisional church commit­tees. He declared that the minister for church affairs sought to secure peace by fighting the Confessional Church, a method that had never been desired by Kerrl’s collaborators. There was no guarantee, he insisted further, when this administration would end. “A totalitarian state that has once assumed the government of the church can never let it go. In this situation German Evangelical Christendom must obey God rather than man.” 98

[P.>186] In May, 1936, the Confessional leaders, including Niemoeller, addressed their courageous memorandum personally to Hitler, and on Sunday, August 23, the Confessional pastors read a manifesto from their pulpits. The extent to which both of these documents condemned National Socialist doctrine and practice has been discussed in the introductory pages of this chapter.

On December 1, 1936, the whole youth of the country was incorporated in the Hitler Youth organization with the pro­fessed object of making certain that all young Germans become educated bodily, spiritually, and morally in the spirit of Na­tional Socialism.99 This step was bound to affect church youth organizations in an increasingly adverse manner.

A rift had developed between Zoellner and Kerrl over church policies in areas where the influence of the German Christians was strong. In December, Balzer, a German Chris­tian and territorial bishop of Lubeck, dismissed without notice or pension eight pastors because of their sympathy with the Confessional movement. Zoellner’s committee tried in vain to secure the withdrawal of this measure, even attempting to reach the ear of the Fuehrer. Instead, the Gestapo expelled one of the pastors from the territory of Liibeck and placed the other seven under house arrest, at the same time prohibiting them from speaking in public. By direct intervention of Kerrl, Zoellner was forbidden to go to Lubeck to preach, because it was feared that he would sympathize with the dismissed pastors and take his stand against the German Christian bishop. Similar meth­ods of threatening the Confessional clergy with imprisonment and dismissal with loss of salary unless they yielded, had been carried out also in Thuringia and Mecklenburg, where the German Christians administered church affairs.

Members of territorial church committees and of finance departments who attempted to have such measures set aside were intimidated by the threat that persistence would result in withdrawal, by the state authorities, of confidence and sup­port. Kerrl went so far as to forbid the further holding of [P.>187] Evangelical Weeks, which were customary annual church gath­erings at which sermons were preached and laymen and clergy met for discussion.

Under such circumstances it became apparent that the com­mittees of reconciliation were doomed to fail. Zoellner and the whole of the Evangelical Reich church committee placed their resignation in the hands of Kerrl on February 12, 1937. The reasons for the resignation were communicated to Kerrl in a document written and signed by Zoellner himself.100 In it he stated that for more than sixteen months the Reich church com­mittee, in an endeavor to bring order to the church, had co­operated with Kerrl, who supposedly was pursuing the same ob­ject. On numerous occasions, however, the minister of church affairs failed to give adequate support. The authority of the committee had been seriously jeopardized by aggressive and quite unrestricted antichurch and anti-Christian propaganda, which undermined confidence in church leadership and en­couraged secessions from the church.

It was as churchmen, Zoellner continued, that the commit­tee undertook its task of governing the German Evangelical Church, which, he affirmed, represented the most important ecclesiastical statutory corporation in the motherland of the Reformation. Not once had the committee been given the privilege of laying their needs and anxieties directly before the Fuehrer. Particular reference was made to the recent in­stance when Kerrl forbade Zoellner to preach in Liibeck. This meant that the chairman of the governing body of the German Evangelical Church, apart from any business of church politics, could no longer exercise the right of free and unhindered preaching of God’s word. It was made apparent, Zoeliner con­cluded, that the committee had no other choice but to resign.

Thus ended the most hopeful experiment that had yet been made for bringing unity and order into church affairs.

On the day following the resignation of the Reich church committee, Kerrl spoke before some of its former members and other church leaders, and threw considerable light on the [P.>188] difficulties inherent in any arrangement between Protestantism and Nazism.101 His theme was that the church must acknowl­edge the primacy of the state, which strove for a positive, prac­tical Christianity. Zoellner, he insisted, had failed because he had tried to reform the church instead of securing the recogni­tion of state supremacy over the church. The will of the Father in heaven was to be found in National Socialism. It had passed into German blood. Everything that National So­cialism did for the community and for the preservation of the nation was the will of God. It was not the Apostolicum that showed what Christianity really is, but Adolf Hitler. Christ could not be reckoned as a Jew, because the Jew is a destroyer, a bastard. The church, Kerrl maintained, would remain under his authority ; but he would have nothing more to do with com­mittees, and no church elections were to be allowed.

Church Affairs After the Resignation of the
Reich Church Committee

Upon Kerrl’s report of his failure to Hitler, the latter de­creed on February 15, 1937, as follows:

Since the Reich church committee has failed to bring about a union of the different church groups in the German Evangelical Church, the church shall now, in complete liberty and along lines determined by the congregations themselves, give itself a new constitution and therewith a new organization.

I, therefore, authorize the Reich minister of church affairs, with this object in view, to prepare the election of a general synod, and take all the necessary measures.102

At first reading this sounds like a Pharaoh’s decree to free God’s people from all bondage. But the unexpected decision by the Fuehrer merely added to the church confusion. Apparently the constitution of 1933 was to disappear entirely. The memory of the 1933 election, when Hitler intervened in a broadcast on the side of the German Christians, was still vivid in the minds of the Evangelical Church people. The Confessionals hastened to submit a list of conditions to Hitler which, they felt, would [P.>189] guarantee fairness this time. They held that only those who were active members of the church should vote. They de­manded, therefore, that all voters be required to register at parish offices in order to be checked on their participation in church life, a practice not uncommon in church elections prior to 1933. They pointed out that freedom of speech, press, and assembly were primary conditions for a fair and honest elec-tion.103 But no such provisions were envisioned by the above-mentioned decree, for arrangements of this nature would not harmonize with the Nazi Weltanschauung.

In March, 1937, Dibelius and Niemoeller expressed the gen­eral anxiety of church leaders in a brochure entitled, We Call Germany to God.104 In it an appeal was made to the state that it turn aside from all anti-Christian propaganda arid give free­dom to the preaching of God’s word. What churchmen want to do, maintained the authors, is to call Germany back. to God and infuse the people with the power of His word. Their brochure, however, was promptly suppressed by the Nazi government.

On June 25, 1937, Kerrl answered all such demands still further by his sixteenth executive decree.105 Like the previous decrees, it was based on the earlier law for the safeguarding of the German Evangelical Church. In this decree he prohibited, under threat of fines or imprisonment, the use of churches for electoral purposes, and preparations for the election by means of public meetings or handbills. The opposition groups were thereby limited to private meetings, which the state with all its political machinery had recommended. It is clear that under such conditions a satisfactory agreement could not be reached, and the election called for by Hitler never took place.

Having failed to reconcile the opposition within the church by the expedient of church committees, and being unable to reach an agreement on a new election, the Ministry of Church Affairs enacted further measures to accomplish its aims. In his thirteenth executive decree,106 March 20, 1937, Keri-1 had transferred the administration of the German Evangelical Church to the director of the German Evangelical Church chancellor, [P.>190] who at that time was Dr. Werner, a German Christian, but formerly an opponent of Mueller. Thus began a new phase in the history of the German Evangelical Church; namely, the exercise of control over its administration, not by another temporary Reich church committee, but by a central, state-appointed office. It was a new and partly bureaucratic ar­rangement, to be confirmed shortly, without a time limit.

Dr. Werner’s appointment was made permanent in the seventeenth executive decree,107 December 10„ 1937, when Kerrl confirmed him in his position as a state administrator of church affairs. Accordingly, Dr. Werner was authorized to promulgate ordinances on all church matters except on questions of faith and worship, while the leadership of the individual regional churches was to remain in the hands of existing church govern­ments.

Local church autonomy had already become greatly re­stricted by a centralized supervision of their finances. The fourteenth executive decree,108 June 10, 1937, augmented by the fifteenth executive decree,109 June 25, 1937, called for a state-controlled finance department to be set up in the chan­cellery of the German Evangelical Church and one in each of the German Evangelical state churches. These newly estab­lished finance departments were henceforth to supersede the local authorities in the financial administration of the church. The central finance division was to simplify, standardize, and supervise the financial administration of the state churches.110 Moreover, it was empowered to issue legally binding edicts with the approval of the Reich minister of church affairs. Thus it was in its power to influence the conduct of the whole church administration by cutting off support on account of alleged violations of state or church regulations. This not only limited the local control of church affairs in general, but it also jeop­ardized the very existence of the Confessional groups, which had hitherto been successful in deriving support from the reg­ular church taxes or collections in the local parish.

Under the threat of these new dangers, Dr. Zoellner, the [P.>191] former chairman of the Reich church committee, issued a proclamation on April 1, 1937, in which he made an earnest appeal to the Confessional groups to lay aside their differences and unite.111

His appeal did not go unheard. The national Council of Brethren and the Lutheran Council recognized each other’s authority as church governments and resolved to act jointly in dealing with the Reich on points relating to the election and other matters. On Reformation Day, October 31, these groups issued a statement in which they protested against Rosenberg’s negative influence upon Christian faith. Declaring their readi­ness to give obedience to the government, they nevertheless expressed their undeterred resolution to abide by gospel prin­ciples. They were moved to ask whether the Nazi Party in­tended to permit the churches to continue as places of worship without exposing preachers and hearers to the danger of being suspected as traitors and enemies of the state.

The answer to such questions was given by Kerrl in an ad­dress at Fulda, November 23, 1937.112 He declared that for nearly five years National Socialism had represented nothing other than the really positive aspect of Christianity. During this period the churches had received approximately 1,000,000,000 reichsmarks in subsidies and taxes from the Third Reich. If the religious communities had followed their own tenets and had not engaged in internecine struggles they might easily have lived in peace with the National Socialist state.

The Reich minister of church affairs then referred to his attempt to overcome disputes among various church groups by appointing church committees, but he pointed out that the church parties rejected his plan. Then the Fuehirer extended the helping hand of the state in a broadminded, liberal elec­tion decree, but the church itself made the holding of elections impossible. Obviously, he explained, the state c:annot allow unauthorized church collections for the benefit of individual church parties or for the purpose of carrying on propaganda hostile to the state itself. Neither could the state grant the [P.>192] church the sole right of education, for it had to be left to National Socialism to educate the children as seemed right to the state. There was nothing in the teachings of Christ that contradicted National Socialist racial theories. On the contrary, Christ had led a bitter struggle against Judaism, and for that reason He had been crucified by the Jews. In this state, he concluded, only the state itself can rule, and there can be only one Fuehrer, whom it is the duty of all to follow.

Such declarations did not persuade Confessionals like Niemoeller to adopt a policy of subordination. This dauntless minister had been arrested on July 1, 1937, together with more than sixty other clergymen, because they had announced from their pulpits the names of people who had left the church. This procedure was in violation of an edict which had been issued by the Reich and Prussian minister of the interior, February 18, 1937, expressly forbidding the reading of such names from the pulpit.113 Also, Niemoeller had uttered opinions from the pulpit which were interpreted as an attack on party and state. He was held in prison until February 7, 1938, before he was tried before the Special Court in Berlin. On March 2, the court showed that it was convinced of Niemoeller’s personal integrity by sentencing him to seven months confinement in a fortress, instead of ordinary imprisonment, for having violated the Pul­pit paragraph.114 Since he had already been in prison for eight months he was regarded as having served his sentence, and was allowed to go free. But, as he left the court, the Gestapo ar­rested him and placed him in a concentration camp.115 There he remained until the collapse of the Third Reich, when he was liberated by the American Army.

Thus by the end of 1937 the conflict between Protestantism and Nazism had been withdrawn from the semblance of a spiritual plane and transferred to the domain of the police and the criminal code. The basic points of dispute had not changed appreciably since the beginning of the conflict, and a feeling of tension and uncertainty continued in the relations between unsubdued Protestantism and aggressive Nazism.

[P.>193] There had been an occasional lessening of this tension, mainly for political reasons. The results of Nazi elections at times revealed an unusual number of “No” votes in parishes from which pastors had been expelled. This fact seemed to suggest to the government that it must be more wary in its treatment of the church. Reconciling the Confessional forces with the state continued to be a difficult task. The spirit of freedom inherent in Protestantism and its traditional emphasis on the autonomy of the individual believer made it difficult for a political dictatorship to thrive in a predominantly Protestant country where Protestant theology had taken root and grown through the years.

Ever since the time of Luther, however, the church in Ger­many had become so closely bound to the state by adminis­trative, educational, and financial arrangements that any major political change was certain to affect religious conditions as well.

One of the contributing difficulties was to be found in the fact that when National Socialism came to power, the Prot­estant churches continued their demand for legal recognition and for financial aid from the state. Since this was granted, the Nazis reasoned that if they were expected to support the churches financially, in return the government was justified in expecting moral support from the churches. The latter found it difficult to refute or ignore such logic.116

After the collapse of the Third Reich, representatives of the Evangelical churches in Germany issued the Stuttgart Declaration, as has been explained in chapter 3. In this decla­ration they acknowledged their guilt for not having witnessed more courageously and for not having prayed more faithfully while they struggled against the spirit which found terrible expression in the National Socialist regime.117 This document was signed by the most active of the Protestant fighters in the unequal church struggle with Nazism.

High courage, this, and true Christian humility. “So like­wise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are [P.>194] commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.”118

That this acknowledgment of guilt was more than a mo­mentary impulse brought about by an overwhelming military defeat was evidenced by a still more searching call for repent­ance issued by the National Fraternal Council of the Confessional Church on Repentance Day, November 16, 1949. It served as a sobering corollary to the Stuttgart Declaration.

Accordingly, this later appeal inveighed against the age-old idol of self-justification, used by both the East and the West, as well as by the German people. It warned against the delusion of a third world war or a world revolution as a means whereby to redeem the ‘world. Refusal to repent, it concluded, would merely hasten further retribution not only upon the Germans but upon all mankind as well.119

FOOTNOTES

  1. D. Kurt Dietrich Schmidt, ed., Die Bekenntnisse und grundsiitzlichen Aeusserungen zur Kirchenfrage (Gottingen, 1934-37), vols. 1-4, for the years 1933-36. (Hereafter referred to as B’ekenntnisse.)
  2. International Conciliation, No. 324 (November, 1936), pp. 556-567. Although the pope’s encyclical, Mit brennender Sorge, issued nine months later, was not directed to Hitler personally, yet in spirit and content it had much in common with this Evangelical Church letter.
  3. Michael Power, Religion in the Reich (London, 1939), p. 113.
  4. Church of England, Council on Foreign Relations, Fourth Survey on the Affairs of the Continental Churches (Westminster, 1937), pp. 22, 23. There are four of these surveys. They will lbe cited as Survey, First; Survey, Second, etc.
  5. Arthur Frey, Der Kampf der Evangelischen Kirche in Deutschland (Zollikon, 1937), pp. 171, 172.
  6. Alfred Rosenberg, Protestantische Rompilger (Munchen, 1937), p.80.
  7. Nathaniel Micklem, National Socialism and the Roman Catholic Church (London, 1939), p. 181.
  8. “Council on World Order,” Newsweek, vol. 23, No. 78 (March 21, 1949), p. 78.
  9. Cf. Felix Gilbert, “Political Thought of the Renaissance and Reforma­tion,” The Huntington Library Quarterly, vol. 4 (July, 1941), pp. 443 et seq.
  10. Paul Douglass, God Among the Germans (Philadelphia, 1935), p. 281.
  11. Otto Ernst Rohn, Lutherische und ref ormierte Kirchenverfassung im Deutschland der Nachkriegszeit (Ochsenfurt am Main, 1933), p. 17.
  12. Rohn, op. cit., p. 25.
  13. Rudolf Grob, Der Kirchenkainpf in Deutschland (Ziirich, 1937), p. 45 et seq.; cf. Karl Barth, Theologische Existenz heute (Munchen, 1935).
  14. Paul Banwell Means, Things That Are Caesar’s (New York, 1935), pp. 4, 94.
  15. Stewart W. Herman, Jr., It’s Your Souls We Want (New York, 1943), p. 107.
  16. Johannes Schneider, ed., Kirchliches Jahrbuch fib- die Evangelischen Landeskirchen Deutschlands (Gilteirsloh). After faithfully chronicling the fortunes of German Protestantism for fifty-nine years, this yearbook ceased to be published in complete form after 1932. The editions for 1933 and 1934 were mere “torsos.” But even such incomplete forms ceased to appear regu­larly. The crisis in Protestantism became too baffling to the serious statistician. (Hereafter cited as Schneider’s Jahrbuch.)
  17. The introduction to article 137. Sections 3, 4 including articles 135-150, deal specifically with the regulation of religion, religious societies, and schools.
  18. Rohn, op. cit., pp. 98-100.
  19. Schneider’s Jahrbuch fur 1920, pp. 278-294.
  20. Schneider’s Jahrbuch fur 1921, pp. 304 et seq.
  21. Schneider’s Jahrbuch fur 1920, pp. 1-30.
  22. Schneider’s Jahrbuch fur 1921, p. 339.
  23. Means, op. cit., p. 91.
  24. Schneider’s Jahrbuch fur 1922 gives both laws, pp. 13-16.
  25. Waldemar Gurian, Hitler and the Christians (London, 1936), pp. 71, 73; c.f. Friedrich Wieneke, Die Glaubenshewegung, “Deutsche Christen” (Sol-din, 1933), p. 12.
  26. Karl Immer, Bekennende Gemeinde im .Kampf (Wuppertal-Barmen, 1934), p. 51.
  27. Frey, op. cit., pp. 108-115. The extreme section of the German Chris­tians became embodied in the national church movement of the Thuringian Christians, whose views did not differ essentially from those of Rosenberg.
  28. W. Grundmann, Die 28 Thesen der Deutscken Christen (Dresden, n.d.), P. 64.
  29. Emmanuel Hirsch, Das kirchlkhe Wollen der deutschen Christen (Ber-lin-Steglitz, 1933), pp. 5-20.
  30. Cf. Joachim Hossenfelder, Unser Kampf (Berlin, 1933).
  31. Gurian, op. cit., p. 83.
  32. Grob, op. cit., pp. 23, 24.
  33. Ibid., pp. 24, 25.
  34. RGBI., 1933, vol. 1, pp. 471-475.
  35. Schneider’s Jahrbuch fur 1922, pp. 510-513, contains the constitution of the church federation of 1922.
  36. Grob, op. cit.,p. 10.
  37. Ibid.
  38. Friedrich Koch, Die Deutsche Evangelische Kirche and ihre Verfassung (Berlin, 1933), p. 47.
  39. Survey, First, p. 8.
  40. Gurian, op. cit., p. 82.
  41. RGBI., 1933, vol. 1, p. 175.
  42. Ibid., p. 433.
  43. Bekenntnisse, vol. 1, pp. 174-182.
  44. Ibid., pp. 182-186.
  45. Schneider’s Jahrbuch fur 1934, p. 104.
  46. Ibid., p. 112.
  47. Ibid.
  48. 2 Thessalonians 2:11.
  49. Bekenntnisse, vol. 1, pp. 168, 169.
  50. Survey, First, p. 11.
  51. Bekenntnisse, vol. 2, pp. 25-27.
  52. Germania, March 24, 1933.
  53. Gurian, op. cit., p. 100.
  54. Friedrich Roetter, Might Is Right (London, 1939), p. 367.
  55. Bekenntnisse, vol. 2, p. 128.
  56. Ibid., pp. 129-134.
  57. Grob, op. cit., p. 37.
  58. Bekenntnisse, vol. 2, pp. 163-168.
  59. Ibid., pp. 168-170.
  60. 60.Ibid., pp. 175, 176.
  61. Survey, First, p. 15.
  62. Bekenntnisse, vol. 2, pp. 62, 63.
  63. Ibid., pp. 91-98.
  64. Ibid., pp. 93-95.
  65. Survey, Second, p. 17.
  66. Bekenntnisse, vol. 2, pp. 157-162.
  67. Survey, Second, p. 22.
  68. Ibid., p. 24.
  69. Bekenntnisse, vol. 3, p. 130.
  70. RGB1., 1935, vol. 1, p. 774.
  71. Survey, Third, pp. 15-19.
  72. Ibid., p. 3.
  73. Julius Rieger, The Silent Chuirch (London, 1944), p. 38.
  74. Karl Barth, ed., Theologische Existenz heute (Munchen, 1935), p. 23.
  75. Bekenntnisse, vol. 2, pp. 102-105.
  76. Rudolf Kluge and Heinrich Krueger, Verfassung and Verwaltung im Grossdeutschen Reich (Berlin, 1939)., p. 143.
  77. RGBI., 1935, vol. 1, p. 774.
  78. Anders Nygren, The Church Controversy in Germany (London, 1934), pp. 109-112.
  79. Bekenntnisse, vol. 3, pp. 163-169.
  80. Roetter, op. cit., pp. 378, 379.
  81. Ibid., p. 214.
  82. RGBI., 1935, vol. 1, p. 1029.
  83. Ibid., p. 1060.
  84. Ibid., p. 1178.
  85. Ibid., p. 1221.
  86. Second to fourth and sixth to eleventh executive decrees to the law for safeguarding the German Evangelical Church. RGB1., 1935, vol. 1, pp. 1283, 1350, 1369; RGB1., 1936, vol. 1, pp. 15, 129, 130, 176, 440.
  87. Bekenntnisse, vol. 3, p. 273 et seq. Survey, Third, pp. 4, 5.
  88. Mildred S. Wertheimer, “Religion in the Third Reich,” Foreign Policy Reports, vol. 11 (Jan. 29, 1936), p. 301.
  89. Hans Pfundtner and Reinhard Neubert, eds., Das neue deutsche Reichsrecht (Berlin, n.d.), vol. 1 d, pp. 4, 34-50. The decrees of the Reich church committee were originally published in the Gesetzblatt der Deutschen Evangelischen Kirche (official gazette of the German Evangelical Church).
  90. RGBI., 1936, vol. 1, p. 884.
  91. Roetter, op. cit., pp. 383-386.
  92. Survey, Third, pp. 6, 7.
  93. Ibid., pp. 8, 9.
  94. RGB1., 1935, vol. 1, p. 1370.
  95. Ibid., p. 1522.
  96. Survey, Third, pp. 8-10.
  97. Power, op. cit., pp. 136-138.
  98. Survey, Third, p. 20.
  99. RGB1., 1936, vol. 1, p. 993.
  100. Survey, Fourth, pp. 32-35.
  101. Ibid., pp. 36-39.
  102. RGB1., 1937, vol. 1, p. 203.
  103. Survey, Fourth, p. 29.
  104. Otto Dibelius und Martin Niemoeller, Wir ru/en Deutschland zu Gott (Berlin, 1937).
  105. RGBI., 1937, vol. 1, p. 698.
  106. Ibid., pp. 333, 334.
  107. Ibid., p. 1346.
  108. Ibid., p. 651.
  109. Ibid., p. 697.
  110. An informing discussion on the finances of the German Protestant church is given by Roger H. Wells, “The Financial Relations of Church and State in Germany, 1919-1937,” Political Science Quarterly, vol. 53 (March, 1938), pp. 36-59.
  111. Roetter, op. cit., p. 392.
  112. V iilkischer Beobachter, Nov. 25, 1937.
  113. Werner Hoche, ed., Die Gesetzgebung des Kabinetts Hitler, Heft 22, p. 676.
  114. Paragraph 130A of the Reich Criminal Code, which originated as the Kansel paragraph during Bismarck’s Kulturkampf.
  115. “German Martyrs,” Time, vol. 36, No. 26 (Dec. 23, 1940), pp. 38-41.
  116. Cf. Emil Brunner, Der Stoat als Problem der Kirche (Bern und Leip­zig, n.d.).
  117. Report on the visit of the World Council delegation to Germany, October, 1945, Not Strangers but Brethren (New York, 1945), pp. 8, 9.
  118. Luke 17:10.
  119. Cf. The Christian Century, vol. 66, No. 48 (Nov. 30, 1949), p. 1411.

Defending “Lutheranism” from Martin Luther’s Fall from Grace

Brought this back to the forefront due to this past “Reformation Sunday

Luther Rose 2

This is a discussion that took place on my Facebook. And I could see where it was headed, but I wanted to see which avenue it went down… there is so many of them. I pick up the conversation where the person is trying to make a counter point to my assertion that Obama went to a very racist church for twenty years.

A religion started by a rabid anti-Semite, seems like it would be an inherently bad religion that people should denounce, right?

I prod, “Go on.”

What’s your opinion? If you believe obama going to a controversial church proves he has the same opinions as the church leader, I am curious what you think of an entire religion founded by someone who believed in killing and jailing all Jews.

[….]

Martin Luther, who wrote The Jews and Their Lies in the 1540’s which wad basically a blueprint for the holocaust. It’s sad that you need context to know whether killing Jews is bad or not…

I reference an earlier challenge to see if this person has read varying views of events in history, here I remind here of that challenge.

Have you read the book “The Fabricated Luther“? Or books about the Aryan cults such as noted in here (like my SCRIBD) or in books like “The Occult Roots of Nazism: Secret Aryan Cults and Their Influence on Nazi Ideology.” Very anti-Luther — were the Aryans and Nazis. I will post an exceprt or two from the Luther book. BTW, this is what I mean about going to sources “at odds with each-other, you then contrasted and found the better narrative based on available historical evidence.”

Huh? Can you succinctly tell me what you think about Lutheranism? Is it poisoned because of Luther?

Here is the quote I was referring to, and allow me to elucidate afterwards:

The cliché labeling Luther an anti-Semite ignores his 1523 treatise That Jesus Christ Was Born a Jew, in which he admonishes his fellow Christians: “If the apostles, who were also Jews, had dealt with us Gen­tiles as we Gentiles deal with the Jews, there would never have been a Christian among the Gentiles. Since they dealt with us Gentiles in such brotherly fashion, we in turn ought to treat the Jews in a brotherly man­ner in order that we might convert some of themWe should remem­ber that we are but Gentiles, while the Jews are in the lineage of Christ?” Elsewhere in this treatise, Luther writes: “If I had been a Jew and had seen such dolts and blockheads govern and teach the Christian faith, I would sooner have become a hog than a Christian.”

It is noteworthy that in the early twentieth century, the Jewish Encyclopedia made a clear distinction between the “two Luthers”—the pro-Jewish younger Luther and the anti-Jewish older Luther. In this remarkable publication, Gotthard Deutsch melancholically observed about Luther in 1906 that the “totally different attitudes which he took at different times with regard to the Jews made him, during the anti-Semitic controversies of the end of the nineteenth century, an authority quoted alike by friends and enemies of the Jews?”

Alas, it is true that in 1543, shortly before his death, Luther pub­lished his venomous book On the Jews and Their Lies, a work that was to cause great embarrassment to future centuries of Lutheran church lead­ers. In this book, he gave the “sincere advice” to burn down the syna­gogues, destroy the Jews’ homes, take away their prayer books, forbid rabbinic teaching, abolish safe-conduct for Jewish travel, prohibit usury, and force Jews into manual labor.

Johannes Wallmann has shown, however, that Luther’s treatises against the Jews, though reprinted in the late-sixteenth and early-sev­enteenth centuries, had limited impact in the general population. As the article in the Jewish Encyclopedia made clear, this and other appalling texts did not resurface until the late nineteenth century. In fact, in a devastating critique of German Protestant attitudes in the Hitler years, Richard Steigmann-Gall writes: “Not only did racialist anti-Semitism find a warmer reception among liberal Protestants than among confessional Lutherans, in many ways, racialist anti-Semitism was born of the theological crisis that liberal Protestantism represented ” Liberal Protestantism is a child of the nineteenth century. According to Steigmann-Gall, it provided the platform for Nazi ideologues to develop such theories as the one that Jesus was an Aryan. In other words, Protestants who were theologically closest to Luther’s teachings were more immune than liberals to one of the ugliest aspects of Nazism—racism. This observation could arguably also be made about deviant and sometimes lethal theologoumena that are currently rife in mainline churches in the United States and elsewhere in the West.

Uwe Siemon-Netto, The Fabricated Luther: Refuting Nazi Connections and Other Modern Myths, 2nd Edition (Saint Loiuse, MS: Concordia Publishing, 2007), 51-52.

Here is the point, Lutheranism was founded well BEFORE his 1543 anti-Semitic writing… when he was VERY Jewish friendly.

SO — Lutheranism was founded on the pro-Jewish Luther. It was leftism in it’s various shades that chose the later Luther.

In Germany (and the U.S.), the eugenic movement was founded by left leaning secular and religious persons. Lutheran churches (read here — especially conservative Lutheran churches — but all) have denounced this racism from “later Luther.”

Has Obama denounced his ties to Farrakhan, his churches teaching that blacks are the true Jews? Have you heard his church of 20-years denounce Farrakhan or the New Black Panther members that sit in its pews? Have you heard Michelle Obama denounce her affiliations to Farrakhan’s wife?

You see, you are setting up a non-sequitur and emboldening my case that racism exists on the Left… much more-so than in conservative politics or conservative religion.

From eugenicists and the real NAZIs (an acronym with socialism in it), to before that and the founding of the KKK and, to our country entering into a Civil War, to the founder of Planned Parenthood. On-and-on:

▼ “virtually every significant racist in American political history was a Democrat.” Bruce Bartlett, Wrong on Race: The Democratic Party’s Buried Past (New York, NY: Palgrave MacMillan, 2008), ix;

▼ “not every Democrat was a KKK’er, but every KKK’er was a Democrat.” Ann Coulter, Mugged: Racial Demagoguery from the Seventies to Obama (New York, NY: Sentinel [Penguin], 2012), 19.

The history of Protestantism and Catholicism saving Jews in WWII is another proud moment to understand (for instance the book by the Jewish Rabbi entitled: “The Myth of Hitler’s Pope: Pope Pius XII And His Secret War Against Nazi Germany”), Einstein did:

“Being a lover of freedom, when the [Nazi] revolution came, I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but no, the universities were immediately silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers, whose flaming editorials in days gone had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a few short weeks… Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing the truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration for it because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual and moral freedom. I am forced to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly.”

Albert Einstein Time Magazine, December 23, 1940 (page 38); Mackay, J. A. 1939. “The Titanic Twofold Challenge,” New York Times Magazine, May 7, p. 3.

Here are two additional resources to consider, the first is via Ray Comfort:

As we wonder how Hitler could have claimed to be a Christian, and how the church in Germany could have been duped by his policies, it makes no sense until we understand something extremely important.

In pre-Second World War Germany, there were 40 million Lutherans. It is significant to realize that to be part of the Lutheran church in those days one need not be converted to Christ. As with the Roman Catholic church, children were simply baptized into the church as infants because they had to be a member to be married or buried. That was just the way it was. If for some reason an individual wanted to separate himself from the church, his name would be read from the pulpit for three Sundays and intercession was then made for him in public prayer. Consequently few took the radical step of leaving the church.

For years the denomination had been influenced by a theological liberalism that was really only secular philosophy disguised by religious language. So rather than being a vibrant Christ-centered lighthouse of biblical truth, the Lutheran church of that time (as with many contemporary denominations) was simply a huge traditional institution. The problem with the German people was that they couldn’t recognize true Christianity from hollow religious jargon.

And this from Richard Weikart:

German Protestantism had largely adopted theological liberalism, especially in the university theology faculties. Theological liberalism tended to dismiss many parts of the Bible as historically unreliable and rejected the miraculous. It opposed the idea of the inherent sinfulness of humanity and stressed the immanence rather than the transcendence of God. It also embraced Friedrich Schleiermacher’s stress on individual religious experience or feeling, thus making religion impervious to scientific or historical criticism even while admitting such criticism’s validity in the empirical realm.

Though theological liberalism dominated the German theological scene by the early twentieth century, some Protestants remained theologically conservative. Further, immediately after World War I, the Protestant theologian Karl Barth helped initiate a new movement—sometimes called neo-orthodoxy—which challenged liberal theology by emphasizing the authority of all of God’s Word and stressing the sinfulness of humanity and the transcendence of God. Barth and neo-orthodox theologians did not reject biblical criticism, but they interpreted scripture in an existential sense, rather than as empirical historical claims.

Though the majority of Germans still identified as Christians, competing religious and secular philosophies had undermined the loyalty of a minority. During the eighteenth-century Enlightenment, some German intellectuals dispensed with the notion of a miracle-working God or a divine Jesus. Instead, they embraced deism, a rationalistic concept of a God who created the world to operate according to fixed scientific laws and then left it to run on its own accord. Many deists remained in the churches, especially in the Protestant Church, pushing it in a more liberal direction.

In the Romantic backlash against Enlightenment rationalism in the last decade of the eighteenth and opening decades of the nineteenth century, religion became more intellectually respectable. However, many Romantics were not entranced with traditional Christianity; they found pantheism more congenial to their mystical love of nature. Pantheism, the worship of nature or the cosmos as God, exerted a powerful influence on German intellectual life throughout the nineteenth century. In 1835, the poet Heinrich Heine asserted, “Nobody says it, but everyone knows it: pantheism is an open secret in Germany. We have in fact outgrown deism. We are free and want no thundering tyrant.” Sometimes known as monism, pantheism diverged into two main branches in the nineteenth century: a mystical or idealistic form and a scientific or naturalistic version. German idealism prevailed in German philosophy in the early nineteenth century, so idealistic pantheism was more pronounced then. Later in the nineteenth century, science and materialism became more significant forces in German intellectual life, giving impetus to naturalistic varieties of pantheism. After World War I, pantheism experienced resurgence among German intellectuals, so it was still intellectually viable during Hitler’s political career.

In addition to pantheism, a position known as panentheism also emerged during the Romantic era. Panentheism is close to pantheism, but not quite the same, since it teaches that nature is a part of God, but God also transcends nature to some extent. In this view, nature is divine, but it is not all of God. In pantheism, God and nature are completely identical. ….

More Weikart

I am very aware of his “evolving” thoughts on Jews but the effects of his venomous thoughts, no matter how late in life they came, on the real life of Jews around the world cannot be ignored. You should consider be so kind to everyone.

Okay, no one is denying this? But Lutheranism was not founded on Anti-Semitism. Obama’s church was. It would be analogous to me going to a liberal, NAZI, Lutheran church in Germany for 20-years.

While a couple other things were said, the above is a good way to defend Church history, while still admitting Luther’s later fall from grace. (Mind you with a little RPT religio-political “swerve” thrown in.) Here is a good short video by egwpisteuw, here is his video description:

An analysis of the error in Bible interpretation made by Martin Luther which caused him to become antisemitic and to write the treatise entitled “Von den Juden und ihren Lügen” “Of the Jews and Their Lies.”

Here is a longer video lecture by a pastor:

  • Luther and the Jews. In the 1520’s, Martin Luther strongly opposed the Church’s stand toward the Jewish people. He wanted to help them come to Christ, and believed this would be accomplished by extending Christian brotherly love and charity to them. However, by the 1540s, (Towards the end of his life), Martin Luther wrote some very anti-Semitic material. This document was not widely publicized (only going through a few printings) and was practically forgotten for hundreds of years, until it was discovered and turned into propaganda by the Nazis.

Shawn Ryan Show: The Resurrection | Lee Strobel & John Burke

Shawn said that they would probably go down some rabbit holes, which is what they started and ended with. It is all good discussion between three dudes.

  • Lee Strobel is a best-selling author, journalist, and Christian apologist best known for The Case for Christ, which recounts his journey from atheism to faith. A former award-winning legal editor at the Chicago Tribune, Strobel has written over 40 books, including The Case for Faith and The Case for a Creator. He founded the Strobel Center at Colorado Christian University and continues to write, speak, and equip others to explore and share their faith.
  • John Burke is the New York Times bestselling author of Imagine Heaven and Imagine the God of Heaven, based on his research of over 1,500 near-death experiences. A frequent speaker and media guest, John co-founded Gateway Community Church in Austin, Texas, which he led for 26 years. He now hosts “The Imagine Heaven Podcast” and continues to speak globally on faith and the afterlife.

NDEs Via GARY HABERMAS

What Near-Death Experiences (NDE) May Be Enlightening for Christians

  • What did Dr. Gary Habermas find in Near-Death Experiences (NDE)
  • What Near-Death Experiences (NDE) may be enlightening for Christians
  • A lot of data supports the authenticity of Christianity

EVIDENCE-BASED VALIDATION for LIFE AFTER DEATH!

Dr. Gary Habermas shares decades of research about near-death experiences (NDEs). Are near-death experiences nothing more than the product of the experiencer’s imagination? Is there any evidence to support the idea that near-death experiences represent a genuine experience of another realm? How does this phenomenon come to bear upon the western world’s reigning scientific paradigm, namely, philosophical naturalism? Check out this video for answers to these questions and more.