(MOONBATTERY hat-tip) Abortion is the ultimate sacrament in the liberal religion. Even to acknowledge the prolife point of view — let alone agree with it — is considered beyond the pale. How can something so awful have such intense proponents? Dave Morrison finds that the most vehement abortion enthusiasts are often childless middle-aged women who, rather than face the horror of their mistakes, attempt to cast their errors as virtue:
- “He kills people for a living… by his own standard.” — Dr. Mike Adams
(Via the DAILY WIRE) On Thursday, February 21, the University of North Carolina-Wilmington hosted a debate on abortion, which was organized by the College Democrats and College Republicans, among others:
The DAILY WIRE article notes the reason they posted the above debate:
- The hour and a half-long debate also featured a Q&A in which the two professionals took questions from the crowd. At the 1:19:42 mark, a man asks Adams about the commonly discussed “rape exception” as it pertains to abortion.
Yep, good stuff.
This debate “TRIGGERED” 😤 (joking) in my memory a short conversation between Dr. Mike Adams and myself and a good book by him, “Letters to a Young Progressive: How to Avoid Wasting Your Life Protesting Things You Don’t Understand.” I complained about a lack of (none in fact) footnotes to reference his quotes and some of his positions in it. (The part I wish to note is at the 11:50 to 12:10 mark above.) This is not a “take-down” of professor Adams at all. We probably agree 99% on the varied topics of politics and faith. It is however, a call to better scolorshipo of anyone writing a book, even if they intend it to be a quick read.
Dr. Adams makes a point about the direction of his book, linked above:
To which I simply respond,
The response by Dr. Adams was a funny quip that I laughed at then over Facebook and would laugh at if we were sharing some beers and time together as brothers in Christ. Here was his last point (where I chose to leave it):
I merely responded: “Hahaha, yes.” My most recent note to Professor Adams was this (remember, I am picking up a conversation from May, 2013):
Here is the convo from today, Dr. Adams:
My last response is,
Dr. Adams may be emotional that some yahoo he doesn’t know is telling him how to write a book. But I would encourage all who write books should include some power to their own references, thus separating out opinion versus factual claims.
- * Pages 31-33
Even in theology if a person quotes Scripture, they don’t merely say “Matthew,” or, “Deuteronomy,” — they note chapter and verse.
Our biggest undercover video yet. We go to an abortion clinic in Colorado to expose the truth about late term abortions — a truth the left, and media, do not want you to see.
I haven’t been able to find this on YouTube… it disappeared and was an integral part of a post of mine. So I decided to upload it here. This is from an excellent documentary entitled, “Maafa 21: Black Genocide In 21st Century America.” But yet, The black community still worships at the feet of Moloch… the Democrat Party. This is part of a post on mine on Margaret Sanger: “Margaret Sanger and the Racist History of Planned Parenthood (Black Genocide)“
I wanted to post a meme here I saw on a friends site (of a differing political persuasion than I) with some conversation in the mix as well. (Note: the woman on the strain starts out the comments, FYI… and my friend [a male] responds.) I also wish to say his Facebook is full of these memes… none of which are really defensible. All he would revert to is name calling. At any rate, “enjoy.”
And here is the convo:
My response to this is thus:
Firstly, the meme doesn’t make any sense… so commenting on it as if it portrays anything in reality (the top 1% getting rich) is laughable.
An article in New Scientist speaks to the declining birth rates in the West and why rich people who own companies NEED workers that often time illegal immigration provides for cheap:
- The Truth About Migration: Rich Countries Need Immigrants — As their birth rates plummet and citizens live longer, the wealthiest countries are desperately trying to bring in migrants to keep their economies afloat.
So, as the West (to lesser extent America) cannot replace it’s working class, or, if everyone goes to college and thinks a degree should offer them a white-collar job… companies (typically owned by the rich) have to find cheap labor. And why pay legal immigrants “x” when illegal immigrantx get paid “b” and save the rich money?
Also, if anyone was getting rich it is the abortion doctors. For instance, Carol Everett opened up multiple abortion clinics with he goal of becoming wealthy. I read here book many moons ago and the abortion industry is a money maker.
Take note another recent under-cover video showing the greed involved in the abortion industry and the money to be made:
And yes, years ago 20/20 did a special and found out fetal tissue was a real thing and put together this list (this was years ago, see my “Baby Parts [Still] For Sale ~ Democrats Dehumanizing Human Life“):
Another point I wish to make is in the conversation portion. No one “villainizes women,” and, in fact, any pro-life ministry I have ever had contact with dotes over the women who have had abortions. In fact, Norma McCorvey (“Roe” in Roe v Wade) wrote a book called “Won By Love,” where she shares the experience of befriending a pro-life woman from a pro-life office that opened up next to the abortion clinic she worked at.
Now, I view doctors that perform partial-birth abortions… or that deliver babies and leave them in utility closets to die of exposure and malnutrition the same way I view doctors who cut off breasts of completely healthy 16-year old girls. With disdain. Shortly after Bill Clinton made partial birth abortion legal with a swipe of his pen, they numbered almost 4,000 a year.
Most were between 5-to-6-months old. Surprise that women support the perceived rhetoric in the conversation from Facebook (excerpted above)… W O M E N by-and-large know that the abortion of a 20-week baby is murder. However, some women still do it… in 2015, there were over 8,296 of these abortions. almost all for financial or familial reasoning.
Again, Almost none were performed for a real physical, life threatening reason. Most were done for elective reasons. For example, the gentleman that invented this late-term abortive technique noted:
Richard Feynman once quipped, “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.” With all the rhetoric and pressure a women feels entering into this choice… and the Planned Parentood counselor often sells an abortion by telling the girl or woman it is a bunch of cells, of blob of tissue. That is why women who view a 4D ultrasound of their baby almost always change their minds. (I will add to the end of this strain my opener to my large post dealing with the founder of Planned Parenthood — Jump To It Below.)
And yes, babies are left out to die in utility closets when abortions go wrong. In fact, this is one of the times Obama chose not to vote absent and voted for a bill to allow doctors to legally leave born children to die:
So, since the Left like “survivor” stories as somehow more legit than ethical and cultural musings, and since a majority of women are pro-life in some form*, this should REALLY BOLSTER these women’s testimony:
To see some late term abortions and other information, see my post HERE.
* …If politicians really want to show that they trust American women, then they should follow the advice of the overwhelming majority of us and restrict abortion in meaningful ways.
This means supporting the president’s action to ban funding of abortion internationally, which is supported by 83 percent of women, and same percentage of all Americans.
This means limiting abortion substantially through legislation. Nationwide, 77 percent of women support limiting abortion to – at most – the first trimester. That is slightly higher than the percentage of all Americans – 74 percent. Laws restricting abortion should be embraced, not resisted.
And 61 percent of women think it is important, or an immediate priority, for our government to restrict abortion in this way, a slightly higher percentage than the 59 percent of all Americans who hold this position.
And a majority of women (51 percent) believe that abortion causes more harm than good in the long run; 50 percent of all Americans agree.
There’s another thing too. Though abortion advocates use the term “pro-choice” as shorthand for pro-abortion, the polling shows that many – often most – people who identify as pro-choice actually support substantial restrictions on abortion…
Organizations That Help
Before we start this topic, I must say that this treatise is not taking into account the emotional strain that many women encounter before and after an abortion. This is a political, philosophical, and historical dealing with the founding of Planned Parenthood, specifically, Margaret Sanger. I would be remiss and foolish however not to think once this hits “cyber-space” that a confused or hurting young woman might happen to come across this blog. To her I wish to leave behind some links where she can get information or counseling whether in question to “should I get an abortion,” or to look for help for the emotional pain of losing a child to choice. So here are some links to organizations that will help either before or after this “choice” is made:
In a good bit today on the Glenn Beck Radio Program, a New York Times story that “fact-checked” the State of the Union Speech was itself run through the grinder. I include a short Stephanie Ruhle (MSNBC) audio clip, and then Brian Stelter (CNN) gets “fact-checked himself. Good clip to link in a response to a Leftist. Glenn and Stu (Steve Burguiere) are in their zone here. The segment that followed this section can be see HERE.
See also an excellent article at THE FEDERALIST entitled, “The State Of American ‘Fact-Checking’ Is Completely Useless“.
In another great segment Glenn Beck and Stu (Steve Burguiere) discuss where the New York Times and the Washington Post’s fudging their quotes and intended meanings. NATIONAL REVIEW has an excellent rebuttal to this in their article entitled, “Trump Was Right about New York’s Abortion Law”. In it we read:
- The text of the law bears out rather than contradicts Trump’s comment. So long as the abortionist is willing to say that an abortion is necessary to protect the pregnant woman’s health — including emotional health — the abortion can take place at any time before or after 24 weeks. Two decades ago, during a debate over similar legislation, late-term abortionist Warren Hern explained that he would always testify that an abortion he wished to perform would avert adverse health consequences (Frank Murray, “Daschle Ban May Not Ban Anything; Abortionists Could Use Own Judgment,” Washington Times, May 15, 1997).
Good stuff Glenn and Stu!
I posted this on my RPT Facebook Page:
Shortly thereafter, a reader posted this short response an a link:
- Just a little info on the matter. (SNOPES: Did New York Pass a Bill Legalizing Abortions Up to Birth?)
By the by. That article is probably the most many read about the abortion debate. I doubt they would have read “Grand Illusions: The Legacy of Planned Parenthood,” or, “Killer Angel: A Short Biography of Planned Parenthood’s Founder, Margaret Sanger.” Or “Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Arguments,” or, “The Case for Life: Equipping Christians to Engage the Culture.” Neither do they watch or listen to women who survived abortions, like, Gianna Jessen, or Rebecca Keissling. Or listen to presentations LIKE THESE:
- The Case for the Pro-Life Position (Part 1)
- Bad Arguments Made Against the Pro-Life Position (Part 2)
- “Pro-Life” is Not a Preference Claim (Part 3)
Why complicate things with history and facts and debate. But I digress. Here is my response:
Another friend posted at the same time:
So now Virginia is doing the same as New York… Virginia could soon be joining New York in repealing restrictions on abortion, including terminations up until the moment of birth, under the provisions of a bill backed by Governor Ralph Northam and a substantial number of Democratic lawmakers. The Repeal Act, introduced as HB2491 by Delegate Kathy Tran (D-Springfield), would repeal restrictions on third trimester abortions, allow abortion doctors to self-certify the necessity of late term procedures, eliminate informed consent requirements, repeal abortion clinic health and safety standards, permit late term abortions to be performed in outpatient clinics, remove ultrasound requirements, and eliminate Virginia’s 24 hour waiting period.
NATIONAL REVIEW has the transcript for those wishing to read the exchange:
(A year ago) Susan B. Anthony List’s Jill Stanek shares her horrifying experience when she, as a nurse, witnessed babies being aborted alive and left to die. She shares why the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Abortion Protection Act is so important.
(For more on Kermit Gosnell, see TOO MANY ABORTED)
And LIFE-NEWS has this recent post…
Dennis Prager was recently at Colorado State University speaking with students and discussing the necessity for traditional values if our free society is to flourish. Watch Dennis’ speech here!
Here is an excerpt of the above:
Steven Crowder provides a full rebuttal to John Oliver’s latest pro-abortion video attacking volunteer crisis pregnancy centers.