This is part of a conversation that was ongoing over the past few days. It started out because a friend posted about how childishly awful these riot were. J.D. rightly noted the same childlike behavior when Obama won — at least partly right. So I simply noted some of the differences. There were not wide-spread violent attacks by pre-and-post Obama like there were for Trump. Another difference is the GOP did not fund through shell activists groups these activities, like the DNC did as well as Hillary’s campaign. I noted that one of the signs he used as an example of this equal behavior was in fact a sign made by the political cult of Lyndon Larouche.
Larouche founded the U.S. Labor Party in 1971, and in his eight-campaigns throughout his career, some being bids for the Presidency, he ran either as a Democrat or with the support of Democrats. In fact, this black woman, Kesha Rogers, pictured to the right was the Democratic nominee (and won) for a Texas district. She is part of the LaRouche “movement” — well, political cult. These signs are from the “LaRouchites,” and have been featured as proof of racism by MSNBC and others at Tea Parties. During Bush’s Presidency however, similar posters were made depicting him as Hitler.
Another difference I pointed out was that the T.E.A. Party was started/founded to oppose Bush’s T.A.R.P. program. Not to oppose the first black President as the media like to portray them. With each successive “bailout” Obama enacted, the T.E.A. Party grew. The reason why can be seen in the acronym of the name: taxed enough already (T.E.A.). But even to say “cut taxes” is racist now. And this labeling comes up in the below conversation and is one of the reasons people voted for Trump. They are tired of the unfounded hyperbole used against them.
The point was pressed, partly by me that his characterization of white-nationalist charges attributed to Trump and his people are unfounded, whereas my studies of Obama’s church of Twenty years is well founded for me to say “Obama went to a NAZI “style” church for twenty years. (You can go here for more of what I used for examples: HOT-TUB CONVERSATIONS).
Of course the very next point by J.G. was the ever vaunted KKK. I knew it would come. Leftists are soo predictable. This is where we pick up the convo which is mainly myself, as, J.G.’s comments were short and merely calling people names — essentially. Take note that I may add media and emphasis that FB does not allow via its platform:
My point is that Obama went to — actually went to — a NAZI style church. He really did. My conversation I have with people (I memorized it long ago because Democrats who talk to me get to hear it once they bring up the racist card) I build up to Barry by creating a similar church but that Bush would have hypothetically gone to.
Barry Soetoro really attended this church.
The claims about Bannon are being dismissed by Jews who have worked close to him for years, by higher up in the 2nd largest political party of Israel, by Muslims hired on by Bannon at Breitbart, by Jewish gays hired by him… even by a Jewish scholar used to prove white-nationalism/anti-anti-Semitism — he refuted the claim.
So if you bring up White Nationalism, you have zero proof. Zero. But in my video and post on the cult-black-nationalist church based on the books and sermons [and more] I purchased from the church itself, I provide evidence.
LET ME REPEAT THAT in this bumper sticker mantra age… (*BOOMING* megaphone w/echo FX added) — I provide evidence.
I continued after his posting a link to Stormfront, a racist online site used by white power groups…
J.G., I study cults, especially racist cults. (I sport over 5,000 books in my home library on various topics.) I have studied four major racist cults: the KKK, Christian Identity, the Nations of God’s and Earths (Five-Percenters), and the Nation of Islam.
- I have gotten death threats from my video I did on the 5%’ers, as a side-note.
The KKK, and other white-power groups vote primarily Democratic. There are many reasons for this, one being that most of them are socialists of some sort (as was Hitler). Another is many are poor, and the 8,000 members (high number BTW) want the social programs [welfare, food stamp, etc.] they philosophically believe in. Another factor is many have done jail time and Democrats are about shorter sentences typically. And lastly the Democrats tend to be anti-Israel… which is why David Duke uploaded a video to his YouTube endorsing Charles Barron [Democrat] for his run for office.
These are just some of the reasons more that 80% vote Democrat. Even when they refuse to vote for the President (say, Obama), they will vote Dem down the rest of the ticket.
If they vote for a Republican for president, they would still vote Dem the rest of the ticket. Here, for instance you see the Grand Dragon of the KKK (California) making it known who he is voting for and probably who he told his people to vote for (to the right).
This was a wild election season though. Louis Farrakhan always votes Democrat. This year he told his people to vote Trump. Similar to the KKK, these racist cult members would vote Dem the rest of their ticket.
If you want to discuss something, I am open for it. I link to MY YouTube and MY website because that is me or my controlled content that I am familiar with. [<<<< I said that because what people do is merely link to sites that they just googled.]
Here you see some higher ups in this white racist movement telling their people (3-of-the-4) to vote Democrat for the election of 2008 [I originally attributed the year to 2012, I am correcting it here]:
➤ Tom Metzger: Director, White Aryan Resistance; Career Highlights: Was Grand Dragon of Ku Klux Klan in the 70s; won the Democratic primary during his bid for Congress in 1980…
➤ Ron Edwards: Imperial Wizard, Imperial Klans of America; Career Highlights: Sued in 2007 by the Southern Poverty Law Center for inciting the brutal beating of a Latino teenager; building the IKA into one of the nation’s largest Klan groups by allowing non-Christians to join.
➤ Erich Gliebe: Chairman, National Alliance; Career Highlights: Turning white-power record label, Resistance Records, into a million-dollar-a-year business juggernaut; an 8-0 record as a professional boxer under the nickname, “The Aryan Barbarian.”
➤ Rocky Suhayda: Chairman, American Nazi Party; Career highlights: Being widely quoted bemoaning in the fact that so few Aryan-Americans had the cojones of the 9/11 hijackers: “If we were one-tenth as serious, we might start getting somewhere.”
[See my, “Radical Groups Support the Democrats (Even the KKK),” for more info]
…In other words J.G., why are you concerned ONLY NOW about the KKK voting habits? And not concerned with the fact that they typically vote for the Democratic Party? These are questions an honest person would ask themselves… or at least consider revising their positions on once they are presented with information they were unaware of prior.
As an aside. Just to make a distinction between the Nation of Islam (NOI) and the many — very small — factions of the white supremacy groups. Since there are many small groups of white racists, their “leaders” are just heads of their chapter. They do not view them in any messianic way, or take their word as “set in stone.” NOI on the other hand is a cult in the truest sense of the word. They do look to Farrakhan in a messianic sense. And if he says vote Trump, probably 100% of his people will. Whereas the percentages for voting Republican in the white nationalist cults would swing a bit toward voting GOP, but not in a unified block.
Someone asked J.G. the following in regards to J.G.’s previous responses and interaction with me and others:
- “Are you ok man? I mean seriously … you sound like you might need some help.”
- I’m fine. Excited for the long overdue implosion.
To which I then note the following:
The GOP has a tri-fecta in 25-states, and the more what we see happening — that is — just labeling good, honest, hard working American one of these: sexist, intolerant, xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic, racist, bigoted (S.I.X.H.I.R.B.), and the continued radicalism in educational, to wit….
When normal mainstream Americans see how the attempt to radicalize their kids is organized, and after a couple semesters at a university the parents are paying for and the child comes back home and grill them about being part of an imperialist white supremacist Christian cisgender capitalist heteropatriarchal, these people are taken-a-back and think hard and long about their vote.
In the warehouse I manage, when Obama-care hit, the four main — full time — employees, the owners (friends), me, and the original worker for the owners had health insurance. The owners made enough money to absorb the increased money. I have insurance through my wife and we were untouched for the most part. But the guy in our warehouse that was the “poorest” among us, within a year, was kicked off his old plan by the law, and his monthly payments more than doubled.
He is a lifer in the GOP… through experience and (patting myself on the back) discussions about the real world with me and my buddy (a business owner) have had with him.
So far from the implosion J.G., I see Trump putting into cabinet positions people that worked against him, people that were for him, and this is unifying much of the Party as it hasn’t been in a long time.
In a long time. AND THIS COMING from a guy (me) who started a website to help defeat Trump ➤ http://cfaparty.org/
He then continued by merely noting I was an Evangelical (he meant it derogatorily, I am proud of my Evangelical heritage). This is a common position taken by the Left as Wikileaks noted in released emails with the higher ups in the Hillary Campaign), and mentioned a graphic/shirt I own that says straight pride. Yes, if there is such a thing as gay pride, there can be such a thing as straight pride.
You have to understand. As the Left continues to separate people into what is termed as the Liberal Trinity of race, class, and gender [cultural Marxism]… you will have more people like me support ideas pictured above. Later you will get truly segregated movements that will rally around these ideas — splitting society even more. The Democratic left is not about our founding motto, E pluribus unum, “out of many, one.” Instead they want segregated graduations, college dorms, separate classes in higher education, protective status for every perceived minority or sexual preference. On and on. The are for E pluribus pluribus, “from many, many.”
Here are two examples I give to exemplify how this segregating is destroying unity. One is a quote, the other a fascinating eyewitness to the divisions in feminism:
- “If homosexuality is really genetic, we may soon be able to tell if a fetus is predisposed to homosexuality, in which case many parents might choose to abort it. Will gay rights activists continue to support abortion rights if this occurs?” ~ Dale A. Berryhill, The Liberal Contradiction: How Contemporary Liberalism Violates Its Own Principles and Endangers Its Own Goals (1994), 172.
In other words if abortions are legal to the ninth month because of financial stresses, or the baby is found out to have a cleft pallet, or the mother wished to pursue education, which all fall under the “mental health of the mother” (Doe v. Bolton). Then surely an excuse for claiming mental health of the mother in the case of it “being gay” can be invoked.
This is anathema to our American culture.
I continued to enlighten him:
Yep. I meet with [use to be regular] a few gay men and women and the parents of gay children. We have in common a few things. We all believe the definition of marriage resides with the states… not the Supreme Court, or the Federal Government. Some of those gay men/women in that bunch do not support same-sex marriage as being AS beneficial to society as their heterosexual counterpart’s relationships… I quote quite a few gays in my main post on the subject (Same-Sex Marriage). So they would be against marriage being a thing sought after by themselves and other gays in their community as being equal to the “traditional sense” of male-female marriage. They realize it is inherently different. Keep in mind as well that some of these people were contributors in past times to GAY PATRIOT
We met on Mondays at either the Burbank Outback, or the Hollywood Sizzler. WHY? Because these two companies supported Mitt Romney in his run. WHY Mondays? Because the L.A. City Council put out an official suggestion to Angelenos… they should not eat meat on Mondays to help curb global warming. So we all get steaks.
You see, these men and women, some I call friends, understand the state of the union better that most (yes, even you J.G.). They realize they have a friend and a supporter of them who is truly concerned with their welfare and longevity in health and life. AS WELL AS the longevity and health of the American experiment.
In other words, they realize the complexity of humankind, and themselves get relegated in their own community as not being “authentically gay,” like conservative blacks are called Uncle Toms or Coons or “mot authentically black,” by fellow blacks.
People are sick of it.
They are sick of it <<< Did I say that already?
And people like you will continue to chase people like these to more rational ground. All people.