A Panel Debate On Whether Or Not the Universe Has Purpose

Apologetics315 h/t (presentation begin around the 8:30 mark.) ~ English and Spanish throughout.

Matt Ridley, Michael Shermer, Richard Dawkin
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Rabbi David Wolpe, William Lane Craig, Douglas Geivett

Church Rejected,Mosque Defended=Tolerant Liberal

I find it telling that when I debate/discuss the issue of the Mosque at Ground-Zero, almost no one from the progressive left knows about the city of New York not allowing a Christian Orthodox Church that was damaged in 9/11 to be rebuilt. Creeping Sharia posts this video of the matter for those who do not know:


Gigantic, sharia-compliant, taxpayer funded mosques run by taxpayer funded and government supported Islamists at Ground Zero. But a church destroyed by Muslims not getting approval to rebuild. Why? Full story at Church left out of 9/11 renewal (See also: Why won’t NYC allow church destroyed on 9/11 to be rebuilt?)

In my many debates on the topic, the almost feverish support for the building of a mosque that didn’t exist prior to 9/11 was defended in exclusion to the preexisting rebuilding of a church. In other words: Christianity bad, and now the apparently tax-payer funded Islamic mosque, good.

A request made all the more outrageous by the fact that Rauf & Co. have shown themselves to be some of the most startlingly incompetent managers of money and property in recent memory:

In late August, we found out that the mosque developers were tax deadbeats to the tune of $224,000. In an application for tax-exempt status, Rauf claimed to operate a mosque that could hold 500 people, but in reality was an apartment that could not hold so many worshipers if they were crammed in like clowns in a Volkswagen. Rauf has filed a false tax return. He is a slumlord — the worst in Union City, New Jersey.

Meanwhile, the thug Sharif el-Gamal has been sued for an unpaid loan, and faced eviction from his SoHo office over $39,000 in back rent. He was found to owe $21,000 in fines on a property with 13 violations. And there are other unanswered questions.

And now they want more money — your money. The sense of entitlement that pervades the entire Ground Zero mosque project never ceases to amaze, as unsurprising as it is given the triumphalist agenda that drives it.

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More Moderate Muslims Shown to be Radicals-Much To the LEFTS Chagrin

“The irony of groups like ICNA is that they take advantage of democratic values to spread a message that is monolithic, anti-democratic, and isolating. They want to implement Sharia law in place of Western government… Organizations like ICNA are also smarter than their parent organization, Jamaat-e-Islami in Pakistan. Whereas the Pakistani group openly preaches its intolerant views, this group presents a smoother message in line with American values. However, its ideology and aims actually contradict democratic values and law.”

IPT – “Promoting Radical Ideas – What ICNA Demands of its Members

BigPeace is helping blow the cover off of ICNA, really another “moderate,” “peaceful” Muslim organization shown to be radical (like its founder in the 600’s, Muhammad):

The Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA) is preaching a global Caliphate and Islamic Shari’a law over America to its members, according to the 2010 ICNA Member’s Hand Book. This is a very different message than the group’s public outreach efforts, and contradicts claims that the organization is a tolerant, mainstream Islamic group.

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It’s not the first example of radicalism by one of America’s largest Muslim organizations. ICNA’s magazine has featured interviews with terrorist leaders in Pakistan, called on youth to fight abroad in Kashmir, and honored like-minded extremist organizations like the Muslim Brotherhood and South Asia’s Jamaat-e-Islami. Concerns have also been expressed about 5 young members of the group’s Virginia mosque, who were arrested and convicted on terrorism charges after attempting to link up with and fight for Pakistani terror groups in December 2009.

As the hand book explains, ICNA doesn’t just believe that religion is a private affair. “Establishment of the Religion” extends beyond the individual and family and into the society, state, and world. “These words [Establishment of the Religion] include not only practicing the religion in individual and collective life and propagating its true teaching to others, but also striving to make this Deen [religion] a way of life for all,” the hand book reads.

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While this may seem like a farfetched concept of world domination, it is actually the same philosophy embodied by the group that ICNA admits founded it. Jamaat-e-Islami [JI], a radical South Asian group committed to the same purposes of a regional and then global Caliphate, promotes an identical message of Islamist domination of society, government, economics, and culture. ICNA maintains its connection to the group with a senior member of the JI from India, Yusuf Islahi, teaching in the organization’s headquarters. Likewise, the 2010 hand book and other membership reading lists repeatedly emphasize the radical literature of JI’s founder, Sayyid Abul ‘Ala Maududi.

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The Investigative Project on Terrorism (IPT), has been exposing ICNA for quite some time. In an April post, entitled ICNA’s Radical Reading List,” they show that five young men were radicalized by a radical message:

When five young Americans disappeared from the greater D.C. area last November, only to be arrested a week later in Pakistan where they allegedly sought to join the jihad against Americans, people wondered why.

Why would five young men forfeit lives of comfort and opportunity to try to kill soldiers defending the nation that made all that possible? How could reportedly supportive families generate radical Islamists like Ramy Zamzam? Emerging from court in January, he declared, “We are not terrorists. We are jihadists, and jihad is not terrorism.”

Much of the initial focus was drawn to the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), the organization to which all five young men belonged. This dissipated following assurances from ICNA and its local chapter that it had not engaged in any form of radicalization and, in fact, would launch programs to combat it:

“Extremism has no place in Islam, and ICNA works tirelessly to oppose extremist and violent ideology.”

The local youth director Mustafa Abu Maryam, who had worked with Zamzam in leading fundraising for the new mosque in Virginia, pointedly declared:

“Our group discussion never talked about politics, never talked about ongoing conflicts, never talked about fighting against anyone, indirectly or directly. On the contrary, we always promoted being compassionate toward others and good stewards of humanity.”

However, the recommended reading list for ICNA’s youth organization for boys, called “Young Muslims,” shows the opposite. The book list includes numerous works by authors such as the Muslim Brotherhood founder Hasan Al-Banna, current spiritual leader Yusuf Al-Qaradawi, and Jamaat-e-Islami founder Abul ‘Ala Maududi. These works are not countered by books or essays which offer a more passive, peaceful message.

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And since it is the Holidays (Holy Days), I figured a Christmas connection to ICNA was warrented. FrontPage magazine posted an article entitled “Radical Islam’s Defiling of Christmas,” the following can be found:

One of the main functions of ICNA is the spread of Islam. The group does this via its dawah or religious outreach program, Why Islam (WI). Too many times, though, ICNA’s religious outreach is used as a venue for the worst of bigotry. Common targets include Jews, Americans, Israelis, homosexuals, fellow Muslims and Christians. The following quotes are presently found on WI’s web forum discussing the latter:

“First of all, muslims do not believe in the G-d of the corrupted Bible, but we do believe in Allah… Anyone who says ‘la ilahe ilallah’ (there is not god but Him)… is guaranteed with eternal life in heaven… Abt penalty, there is no penalty to be done for our sins. This is [sic] wat u christians made up!!”

“[T]he Americans don’t care about their Allies… Even though, speaking Islamically, they are our enemies and not allies… no Kaffir can be an Ally to a Muslim against a Muslim… Like Allah says in the Quran, Baqarah 2, ‘Never will the Jews nor the Christians be pleased with you… till you follow their religion’… [T]hey are not friends of anyone besides themselves… their friendship is an illusion.”

“[T]he Christ that Christians believe will come before the Rapture is actually the anti-Christ who the Zionist-Jews will think to be their promised-Messiah… Most Christians don’t know this. They live in their capsule of ignorance that is hardened by the western main-stream media… [T]heir greed and covetousness for consumption is likened only with Satan in the Bible.

These statements are horrific on their own, but what makes the situation even worse is that the moderators for the group have used similar – even worse – rhetoric themselves, defending Hamas and discussing committing violence against American troops.

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Yet another model of the tolerant Left has burned up in Jihadist flames. But hate is fine, as long as it is found on the progressive left. There are other parts to this video that can be found at The Religion of Peace, but here is the first one to set up some of the interviewees in the news story, this is an older video discussion, from June 2009, but what they are saying is shown time-and-time-again to be true:

Document Dumper Julian Assange Under Arrest

From SkyNews:

The elusive 39-year-old Australian was detained by Scotland Yard officers at around 9.30am after he voluntarily went to a police station in central London.

Police contacted Mr Assange’s lawyer last night after receiving a fresh European arrest warrant from the Swedish authorities, as anger grows in the US over the latest leaked embassy cables by the whistleblowing website.

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Karl Rove on WikiLeaks:

These leaks do detail classified information that now in the hands of the terrorists, is opening up many countries to renewed attacks at their points of weakness:

It came as WikiLeaks published a classified cable which detailed hundreds of critical sites whose loss would most damage American interests.

Among those listed in the UK are satellite sites, BAE Systems plants and cable locations. But security experts condemned the revelations, saying they were a gift to terrorist organisations.

Sir Malcolm Rifkind, a former defence and foreign secretary and chairman of the Commons Intelligence and Security Committee, insisted: ‘This is further evidence they have been generally irresponsible, bordering on criminal.

‘This is the kind of information terrorists are interested in knowing.’

Last year, U.S. embassies were ordered to update a list of critical infrastructure and key resources in their host countries whose loss would ‘critically impact the public health, economic security and/or national and homeland security of the United States’, according to the leaked cable.

It also provides details of areas where the U.S. is reliant for raw materials or specialised goods.

British sites identified in the cable include a telecommunications hub in Hereford, three facilities run by BAE Systems and one end of an undersea cable that stretches from Cornwall to New York.

Although this information is already in the public domain, Sir Malcolm said it was dangerous to have them listed as being critical to the U.S.

Other sites identified are a cobalt mine in Congo, an anti-snake venom factory in Australia and an insulin plant in Denmark.

(Verum Serum h/t)

Julian Assange may be Australian. But he is acting as a military combatant against the United States, and his weapon of choice is not an AK-47 or RPG, but the internet, and he is utilizing his resources effectively. He should be treated as such, brought in, tried, convicted, and punished accordingly.

While Assange is defaming America and putting American lives at risk, there are the usual people supporting his actions. Over at the enlightened liberal Daily Kos, we see praise for the “brilliant” Assange as somehow being a champion of freedom. We have the typical liberal response that Wikileaks is simply doing its part to create a more transparent and pure democracy. And Ron Paul, the anarchist who does not, nor will ever, have the support of this libertarian, thinks Julian Assange is doing America a service and should be supported at all costs.

~ Hack Wilson

 

Conversation with Pamela Geller and Colleagues: Andrew Bostom and Robert Spencer (UPDATE: Rifqa Bary gains residency)

The Religion of Conquest h/t (An Older Video):

Here is a story from Weasel Zippers of a girl killed by her family for becoming a Christian:

NAIROBI, Kenya (CDN)A 17-year-old girl in Somalia who converted to Christianity from Islam was shot to death last week in an apparent “honor killing,” area sources said.

Nurta Mohamed Farah, who had fled her village of Bardher, Gedo Region to Galgadud Region to live with relatives after her parents tortured her for leaving Islam, died on Nov. 25. Area sources said they strongly suspected that the two unidentified men in Galgadud Region who shot her in the chest and head with a pistol were relatives or acting on their behest.

“Reports reached the relatives in Galgadud that Nurta Farah had converted to Christianity,” one source said. “The suspicion that the family is responsible is a solid one.

The sister was killed in Abudwaq, a district in Galgadud Region, and the place where the incident took place is about 200 meters from where the sister was staying with relatives.”

Relatives buried Farah, sources said. Her parents had severely beaten her for leaving Islam and regularly shackled her to a tree at their home, Christian sources said. She had been confined to her home in Gedo region in southern Somalia since May 10, when her family found out that she had embraced Christianity, said a Christian leader who visited the area.

Her parents also took her to a doctor who prescribed medication for a “mental illness,” he said. Alarmed by her determination to keep her faith, her father, Hassan Kafi Ilmi, and mother, Hawo Godane Haf, decided she had gone crazy and forced her to take the prescribed medication, but it had no effect in swaying her from her faith, the source said.

Traditionally, he added, many Somalis believe the Quran cures the sick, especially the mentally ill, so the Islamic scripture was recited to her twice a week.

Rifqa Bary gains U.S. Residency (Sept 7, 2010):

A lawyer for a runaway Christian convert from Ohio who was also an illegal immigrant says the 18-year-old woman has gained permanent residency in the United States…

Gatterdam says Bary, a native of Sri Lanka, received her permanent residency card last week and can apply for citizenship in five years.